September Wrasslin' Thread Breaking Point and No Surrender

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Yeah, without his inhuman physique I don't see the appeal of chris masters.

by appeal i mean like...point.
 
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Plywood said:
Smackdown eps usually get uploaded on the day it airs on Youtube.
yep, a satellite feed rip is usually out before the sun rises on the east coast on friday, like 18 hours pre-air.
Pickles the Firecat said:
Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but what's the point of a submissions count anywhere tag match?
so y2j can win via a walls of jericho thru a car door in the parking lot
 
http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/article/what-happened-after-wwe-raw-went-off-the-air-85011

The following is a brief recap of the events that transpired after the cameras went dark for WWE RAW tonight:

There was no dark match main event. John Cena, Triple H, and Shawn Michaels took a different side of the crowd for a "loudest cheer" contest. They high-fived fans at ringside and crotch chopped with little kids from the crowd at the top of the stage. I didn't hear a return date announced.

Come on Vince. Stop lying to yourself. You want Cena in DX. Just get it over with.
 
once again if I might ask, what are some good wwe documentary style dvds to watch.

I have watched the ones based on the following so far.

Bret Hart
Shawn Michaels
Brian Pillman
Mr. Perfect
Jake Roberts
Ultimate Warrior
The Road Warriors
Roddy Piper

what else is good?

I also liked The Rise and Fall of ECW/WCW and The Monday Night Wars
 
jmdajr said:
once again if I might ask, what are some good wwe documentary style dvds to watch.

I have watched the ones based on the following so far.

Bret Hart
Shawn Michaels
Brian Pillman
Mr. Perfect
Jake Roberts
Ultimate Warrior
The Road Warriors
Roddy Piper

what else is good?

I also liked The Rise and Fall of ECW/WCW and The Monday Night Wars

Ric Flair/ 4 Horsemen
Chris Benoit
Eddie Guerrero
 
jmdajr said:
once again if I might ask, what are some good wwe documentary style dvds to watch.

I have watched the ones based on the following so far.

Bret Hart
Shawn Michaels
Brian Pillman
Mr. Perfect
Jake Roberts
Ultimate Warrior
The Road Warriors
Roddy Piper

what else is good?

I also liked The Rise and Fall of ECW/WCW and The Monday Night Wars

If you liked those, you should check out "WWE The Triumph and Tragedy of WCCW".
 
Humm, how is this I Quit match going to end.

If Cena Wins, who does he feud with? Trips is Busy, and Orton has Batista it seems.

I'm guessing Cena passes out without quitting and the ref stops the match ala WM 13.

Cena bitches about not quitting and that sets up the Hell in a Cell.

Also lol at the DX-Legacy match being a "main event" thus a submission match.


Can't wait to see Trish on Monday. I'll be in the third row.
 
I can't be the only one sick of orton and especially sick of the "viper" persona.... out of all of vince's recent (last ten years) booking hilarities, this "viper" persona has to be among the dumbest he's come up with. the only good thing about the current Orton setup is Legacy, and that's only because of Rhodes and DiBiase and their ability to play lackeys. You could put any reasonable heel in charge of them and they'd be able to do the same job.

Just so tired of orton. Thinking back fondly to the days where he was a boring rest-hold mid-carder... shit... at least he had SOME personality back then.. instead of just constantly glaring and trying to act like a snake.

I really think WWE's overall plan on this is to make EVERYONE want Cena to be champ again. "Well, I don't really want him to be champ, but it's sure as fuck better than Orton".

Come October 7th Orton will have held the title for a total of almost a full year (360 days) out of the past 2 years. Not as bad as Cena's reign from 2005-2007... but still the longest of any other reign without going back to early-90s or 80s shit.
 
timmy01 said:
Come October 7th Orton will have held the title for a total of almost a full year (360 days) out of the past 2 years. Not as bad as Cena's reign from 2005-2007... but still the longest of any other reign without going back to early-90s or 80s shit.

jbl had the belt for awhile.
 
he had it for 280 days according to wikipedia.. still not as bad as what we've been facing for 4 years now. 2 years with cena and one with orton and one more filled up by half a dozen guys or so... why doesn't vince get it. We don't want a constant stream of 30 day title reigns, but this having the belt on a single guy for the majority of a period of time is retarded as well. if not more so.
 
-We don’t have a lot of details on this yet, but apparently there was a fight backstage at the SmackDown/ECW live event in Arecibo, Puerto Rico on Saturday night between The Great Khali and Big Show.

The main event that night saw Matt Hardy, The Undertaker and Khali defeat Big Show, Chris Jericho and CM Punk. At the end, Show and Khali brawled outside of the ring together. When they got backstage, there was apparently an argument. One story said Khali messed something up at the finish and Show called him out on it and they started grappling around.

One source said, “Show slipped on someone’s bag and it was over.”

Another report said that after they ended up on the ground, Khali mounted Show and was hitting him with slaps before The Undertaker pulled them apart. Show and Khali were kept away from each other in the ring for the rest of the tour.
:lol
 
timmy01 said:
he had it for 280 days according to wikipedia.. still not as bad as what we've been facing for 4 years now. 2 years with cena and one with orton and one more filled up by half a dozen guys or so... why doesn't vince get it. We don't want a constant stream of 30 day title reigns, but this having the belt on a single guy for the majority of a period of time is retarded as well. if not more so.


It's called building a titles credibility, look it up.

It's a bigger deal when it changes hands when someone's had it for so long, ESPECIALLY a heel. The chase is more important than the catch.
 
mario ate my burger said:
Seriously!

I think it's because we aren't American :(

I only know Barker 'cause of Happy Gilmore :lol
I've heard of him, wouldn't know him if I saw him, though.

The best segment was Barker-Jericho right at the start. I couldn't tell if Barker is just going a bit senile or if that was part of the act.
 
Outcast2004 said:
It's called building a titles credibility, look it up.

It's a bigger deal when it changes hands when someone's had it for so long, ESPECIALLY a heel. The chase is more important than the catch.
but that's what I was saying.. There's gotta be a a line somewhere in between year long reigns and month long reigns..

and arguably it's just as ineffective for someone like orton to have the title for a year, only to have someone like Hardy take it from him and only hold it for 40 days.

I don't know.. It could be just that I hate Orton's current gimmick like I was saying. I am also not a fan of heels holding the strap for any great length of time. I'd rather see a face beat the odds 100 times in the row than see a heel DQ or cheat his was out of a loss 100 times in a row.
 
cjelly said:
I've heard of him, wouldn't know him if I saw him, though.

The best segment was Barker-Jericho right at the start. I couldn't tell if Barker is just going a bit senile or if that was part of the act.

It's really him.
 
Outcast2004 said:
It's called building a titles credibility, look it up.

It's a bigger deal when it changes hands when someone's had it for so long, ESPECIALLY a heel. The chase is more important than the catch.


Yeah but if the chase is boring as it has been for the past year then i'd rather see the belt change hands more often.
 
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No more Survivor Series, they are getting rid of the second longest running ppv for a tlc themed one. I like Survivor Series and hope this is just a screw up on the wwe's behalf. If not then boo to you Vince.
 
BillRiccio said:
No more Survivor Series, they are getting rid of the second longest running ppv for a tlc themed one. I like Survivor Series and hope this is just a screw up on the wwe's behalf. If not then boo to you Vince.

I won't be too sad to see that one go. Those four on four matches don't excite me like when I was a kid.
 
timmy01 said:
but that's what I was saying.. There's gotta be a a line somewhere in between year long reigns and month long reigns..

and arguably it's just as ineffective for someone like orton to have the title for a year, only to have someone like Hardy take it from him and only hold it for 40 days.

I don't know.. It could be just that I hate Orton's current gimmick like I was saying. I am also not a fan of heels holding the strap for any great length of time. I'd rather see a face beat the odds 100 times in the row than see a heel DQ or cheat his was out of a loss 100 times in a row.

If you hate long title runs then you would have hated the 70's & 80's....


Faces pulling the superman bullshit is the most stale nonsense known to man. I hated it in the Hogan era and hated it with Cena. The bad guy always seeming to sneek one out makes the face that much more sympathetic and easier to get behind. It's building a story and something to look forward... you can't wait to see the dastardly villain get what's coming to him. It's simple storytelling.

Right now Randy is doing a fine job. He's a heel you pay to see lose, granted he can't promo to save his life but he's really stepped up his game as of late.
 
BillRiccio said:
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No more Survivor Series, they are getting rid of the second longest running ppv for a tlc themed one. I like Survivor Series and hope this is just a screw up on the wwe's behalf. If not then boo to you Vince.

It is a mistake apparently, the TLC PPV is replacing Armageddon, not Survivor Series.

Edit: I'm also really pissed about the HIAC and TLC PPVs, they are going to take any prestige away from them matches. Plus, they are commonly feud-ending matches, so it's almost as if WWE are telling us when feuds are going to be ending.
 
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