This thread has been done before in a much more hilarious fashion:
http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=4143
http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?t=4143
darscot said:I should clarify one thing I do consider a womens sexual past based on quality not quantity. If I know a girl has slept with a guy I consider a dirt bag I will pass. It's not how many its who. If rumor has it she has slept with 50 guys and I know none of them she is fair game. If however She has slept with one and it's my brother she's done for.
When you have reasonable skill you will find youself capable of landing (not sure of the word here) most/majority/you fair share of women. Does that mean sudenly they are all sluts. If she is easy for me to land does that make her a slut. Or is it only when she is easy for someone else?
darscot said:When you have reasonable skill you will find youself capable of landing (not sure of the word here) most/majority/you fair share of women. Does that mean sudenly they are all sluts. If she is easy for me to land does that make her a slut. Or is it only when she is easy for someone else?
bionic77 said:I won't judge another person if they like to have a lot of sex, but I don't think there is anything wrong with my not wanting to be with girls who have been with a lot of other guys (or at the very least I sure as hell don't want to know about it).
bionic77 said:Also, what someone said about the double standard is totally true, but in a way I think women are the ones who need to have restraint, because if you leave it up to the guy.........
Tommie Hu$tle said:I think you anwsered your own fucking question.![]()
Don't want to know about it don't ask. As long as she is with you right now who gives a fuck, what she or you did in the past. Live for today and tomorrow. Not yesterday.
I think that people should have restriant why should it be on her to stop you from acting like a dick. How come you can be man enough to stop yourself? That weaksause.
bionic77 said:Hey I think I for the most part I have had self-restaint (hey nobody is perfect!), this is just a generalization that I think might be true for the most part. It might not be either, I didn't claim it to be fact, just something I think is true.
And I agree with you about not asking about the past. I never really did ask about that, but in certain environments it is impossible not to know (like in high school, etc.). Hell, this doesn't concern me anymore anyways as I am engaged and I never asked about my fiance's past and she never asked about mine and I am happy with it staying that way.![]()
Lambtron said:... it's not worth getting worked up over. It's a form of affection, not really all that much different from kissing or hugging. They're all good feelings, just in different ways.
Lambtron said:I'm in the minority amongst my peer group, because the thought of sex without some sort of pretty deep emotional connection is not one that I have ever, or would ever, entertain. That doesn't mean "I'm waiting until marriage!" It means that an emotional bond is a very important part of arousal for me. And it also doesn't mean that I'm going to pass judgement on all you "loose" people... that's me, you're you. I pick who I'll have sex with, you do the same, and everyone will be happy.
Lambtron said:If a girl has so much experience that sex loses a lot of its enjoyment to her, then there would be an issue
Lambtron said:The brain is the largest erogenous zone, leave some to the imagination!
Lambtron said:None of this matters, sex isn't something that should be taken super seriously. I mean, yeah, using protection, and getting tested, and worrying about contraceptives are important, but that actual act? Do you realize how ridiculous sex is? Have you seen the faces you make? Heard the sounds? Heard the shit you say? It's kind of hilarious, actually... it's not worth getting worked up over. It's a form of affection, not really all that much different from kissing or hugging. They're all good feelings, just in different ways. Make eachother feel good and have fun, don't worry about making up rules and regulations for where your does and does not tread.
But the idea of your girl getting down with someone inthe past is never nice...darscot said:Since when is this something that needs forgiveness? People that think like this baffle me? Like it or not sex is the most natural and normal thing there is. The is nothing wrong with sex!
Folder said:But the idea of your girl getting down with someone inthe past is never nice...
Yeah I know. It doesn't stop it from being a really horrible thought though...Tommie Hu$tle said:Well how do you think she feels thinging about all the chicks you banged? The idea of her banging some other dude while she is with me is never nice but, what she did before me and what she does after me is none of my concern.
I should clarify one thing I do consider a womens sexual past based on quality not quantity
Well then, so I'd take it you'd love a woman who's slept with 40 other men before you; she's experienced! The number of partners is VERY relevant. You must look for quality girls.The number of partners that a woman had is irrelevant, and it offends me that you'd value an experienced woman less.
Let's put it this way...If i met a girl that had 20 partners, I would be afraid that she'd have something and having so many partners shows that she was a little careless. So yes, I do view it has something negative the more partners you have. But that's my personal opinion.it's clear that Leguna considers a woman having a lot of partners to be a bad thing
Has any here ever heard of learning together? I garuntee everyone here that NO ONE here knows how to pleasure every woman. Men, for the most part, are fairly easy to pleasure.The last thing I want to be thinking about a girl during sex is: "Has she ever done this before?" I need a girl with some skill and experience.
Exactly.I think there is a big difference in a girl that has had many sex partners and a girl that has few. I'd be a little irked to find that I was dating someone that has had more than say... 15 sexual partners (considering I'm only 20). Just depends on what sex means to you really.
In what I wrote, what in the WORLD makes you think I have a "holier than though" attitude? My advice is no more reliable than my own experience. I'm in no way saying this is law. This is my own personal advice to everyone, take it or leave it.Seriously Leguna, you are a f'n... I cannot believe that you even have a girlfriend with such a smug, holier than though attitude.
My advice is no more reliable than my own experience, take it or leave it. At least we agree.He's not creating a thread for discussion and opinions, he just creates it so that he can impart his great wisdom upon us lesser beings![]()
That's why it's sometimes best to wait. Part of getting married is the requirement to be tested. If the couple are virgins, there's not a worry in the world. Having sex before marriage, sorry, but there are responsibilities one needs to consider. That's just the world we live in. You could live your sexual life carelessly, but you could end up with something you wish you never wanted.You have put all these "conditions" on sex ... that you have stripped any type of pleasure away from it. You will lead a very sexually frustrated experience on this planet.
I WAS struggling with it before, not anymore.If you are struggling with what sexual behaviors are and aren't wrong, you're already asking the wrong question, and this already calls into question exactly how open your mind can possibly be. What is your own background?
Actually, it's meant to work with EVERYONE. Regardless of your religion. If it doesn't work in any case you can come up with, PLEASE share! I really can't come up with anything. Again, I'm keeping on open mind.Correction: You have an answer, which may be perfectly valid for you but may or may not hold water if transferred. For that matter, you don't even know for sure if it will hold true for yourself. Shit happens, and it gets really interesting and complicated sometimes.
You should. I think that's stupid to say because sex can be life changing. There is no 100% safe way to have sex and that small chance of things going wrong is what you are preparing yourself for. You just sound irresponsible.If you view sex as a threat to your well-being, then this is a sound and logical ideology.
I don't.
Mid-20s??? Where did you get that from? Some people are not ready even after 30, some people are ready at 16. Again, it all depends on whether or not you can take responsibility for the answer to the magical question.By this logic, most women are not ready to have children until their mid-20's, if even then. Should they abstain from sex? The fortunate thing is that they don't have to.
It is an individual's choice. Everyone has their own way of looking at it. HOWEVER, if what you mean is sharing your decision with your partner (something I never mention) yes that would be a good thing and something I would recommend.Here, you step out of the outline that you've put together. Now it's to someone to decide what is right or wrong, which as a statement has some applicable value to it. But it's not just an individual's choice. It's two individuals' choices. If you only think about yourself, you will run into conflict.
I can't answer that for you. You are the only one that knows what you want and what you are willing to settle for. Personally, foreplay is not sex, intercourse is.Do blowjobs count? Let's say the girl has only slept with 3 guys (meeting your criteria) but on the side she's sucked 20-30 cocks? Would you still be willing to marry her? I don't know if your system takes that into account.
No. Really. I wish I had only ever had sex with my wife. I hate that I've been with other people. I guess that's just the way I am.Bogdan said:Insecure much?
Dude. Um, how awkward does sex usually look when you do it? :lolBogdan said:Having sex with a virgin makes sex look even more awkward. Not only for the sex but also for the life experience that she has.
And so you won your tag!Bogdan said:Have you ever had sex? :lol
Hate to break it to you but it isn't like the movies where the guys lays on top and they passionately squirm around...well every once in awhile.
Girl let me gingerly lay you down on the bed and stroke your silky red hair and then stick it in you and wail away.
It actually is pretty animalistic with body fluids, position changes, oral sex, noises, weird faces, accidents (oops it slipped out) etc.
And obviously you have never been with a virgin, which is the epitome of awkwardness as you are introducing pain and blood (possible) into the situation.
It seems your forum replies areBogdan said:BREAKING NEWS EXCLUSIVE
You are married to an above average girl....hooray for you, people know my record too.
So that gives you the right to side step addressing the issue and instead focus on a comment made in jest.....
and then pander to the mods.
too!Bogdan said:animalistic with body fluids, position changes, noises, weird faces, accidents (oops it slipped out) etc.
Boo!EviLore said:Folder: stop with the tag BS, mang.
Leguna said:Has any here ever heard of learning together? I garuntee everyone here that NO ONE here knows how to pleasure every woman. Men, for the most part, are fairly easy to pleasure.
Even elbows?levious said:Pleasing a woman is not rocket science... licking every inch of the female body works well for starters, after that just be observant and attentive. dur
levious said:Pleasing a woman is not rocket science... licking every inch of the female body works well for starters, after that just be observant and attentive. dur
Folder said:Even elbows?
Leguna said:EviLore:
Dude, I DO agree with what you said. Tell me where we differ? I'm not agreeing because I fear being ban. Just so you know, I don't like you and I have little respect for you, but I give credit where credit is due.
Yes, absolutely. To be more specific: What matters to me most about a woman is NOT her sexual past, and falling in love with someone is going to be based on other factors.Well then, so I'd take it you'd love a woman who's slept with 40 other men before you; she's experienced! The number of partners is VERY relevant. You must look for quality girls.
1) Having sex with a lot of people does not cause you to contract an STD. Having unsafe sex puts you at risk, even if it's with only one person.Let's put it this way...If i met a girl that had 20 partners, I would be afraid that she'd have something and having so many partners shows that she was a little careless. So yes, I do view it has something negative the more partners you have. But that's my personal opinion.
Feel the blend of sex, rage and power! I'm getting hard!EviLore said:You changed your word usage, but you're still conveying the same message: that sexual history is something that needs to be forgiven, and that you're "settling" if a woman has had more sexual partners than you. That's what I'm arguing against, as are many others here.
And yes, I do know that you don't like me, what with the post-groveling threats... that you only took back once it was clear that you were fucking with the wrong people.
I think the boy was simply refering to the fact that the concept of your girl having done the wild monkey dance with enemy monkeys in the past isn't really a nice one...
-jinx- said:2) How does having a lot of partners make her "careless?"
Tommie Hu$tle said:I'm not sure why I'm jumping in here but, here goes.
For the record I stand firmly with Jinx and Darscot in their views. Who gives a fuck how many dudes a chick slept with before you. Why is it a litmus test for her and not for you? Fuck that, its weak excuse.
You guys come off as buffons. In one thread you are salavating over scantily clad women in one thread but, in the other thread you are saying they can't fuck anyone. Pick a team. Either you go with the Nuns or the Whores.
I'll take Whores six ways from Sunday everytime.
Bogdan said:Insecure much?
That's your opinion, congratulations. I don't care if you are looking for girls that have had sex with 40 other guys, I'm looking for something different. Did you know that exploring the world of sex for the first time with your partner can be a part of the enjoyment of it, growing together sexually?Number of partners has nothing to do with quality. It has everything to do with your own insecurities.
Why are you bringing up something that isn't there??? I removed the word "forgiven" as soon as someone had spotted it out. I "look past" their sexual history.You changed your word usage, but you're still conveying the same message: that sexual history is something that needs to be forgiven, and that you're "settling" if a woman has had more sexual partners than you. That's what I'm arguing against, as are many others here.
No doubt falling in love is based on an infinite amount of things, who's arguing that? Why are you telling this?Yes, absolutely. To be more specific: What matters to me most about a woman is NOT her sexual past, and falling in love with someone is going to be based on other factors.
WOW, no kidding. But realize, even having "safe" sex can still potentially have the same result (i'm sure you already knew that though).Having sex with a lot of people does not cause you to contract an STD. Having unsafe sex puts you at risk, even if it's with only one person.
That's a stupid question, but I'm actually going to spend the time to answer that even though you maybe being sarcastic. Sex, in my opinion, should only be used to take an already existing relationship to a higher level. To develop a strong relationship takes time and if a girl has had 40 partners by my age, she obviously doesn't value the a relationship with people the way I do. And believe me, most people wouldn't like that either.How does having a lot of partners make her "careless?"
And, one sentence later, we get this:Leguna said:I "look past" their sexual history.
Can you honestly not see how those two statements are contradictory? Either it matters to you, or it doesn't. Pick one.Leguna said:We can settle this with one question. Do you care about a girl's sexual past? My personal answer is yes to an extent.
Leguna said:sonarrat:
I WAS struggling with it before, not anymore.
Actually, it's meant to work with EVERYONE. Regardless of your religion. If it doesn't work in any case you can come up with, PLEASE share! I really can't come up with anything. Again, I'm keeping on open mind.
You should. I think that's stupid to say because sex can be life changing. There is no 100% safe way to have sex and that small chance of things going wrong is what you are preparing yourself for. You just sound irresponsible.
Mid-20s??? Where did you get that from? Some people are not ready even after 30, some people are ready at 16. Again, it all depends on whether or not you can take responsibility for the answer to the magical question.
It is an individual's choice. Everyone has their own way of looking at it. HOWEVER, if what you mean is sharing your decision with your partner (something I never mention) yes that would be a good thing and something I would recommend.
Ok so my ideas need more time in the oven? Then please share us your's, I'm keeping an open mind on all this.
Leguna said:That's your opinion, congratulations. I don't care if you are looking for girls that have had sex with 40 other guys, I'm looking for something different. Did you know that exploring the world of sex for the first time with your partner can be a part of the enjoyment of it, growing together sexually?
That's a stupid question, but I'm actually going to spend the time to answer that even though you maybe being sarcastic. Sex, in my opinion, should only be used to take an already existing relationship to a higher level. To develop a strong relationship takes time and if a girl has had 40 partners by my age, she obviously doesn't value the a relationship with people the way I do. And believe me, most people wouldn't like that either.
Drinky Crow said:Hey, you kids gotta admit, this beats a FINAL JUDGMENT any ol' day of the week.
onion_pixy said:"hey baby, wuss up? I'll buy you a drink if you sucked no more than 5 cocks"
-jinx- said::lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
And, assuming the answer is something like, "Cock? What's a cock?" I can see Leguna putting on his Neo-esque sunglasses and shouting, "FINAL JUDGMENT: You are worthy of getting it!"
Then why are you acting like you do???I don't have the answers to this either, but the holes in your argument are enormous.
There is a given factor here. I could come up with a lot of similar things to say about that too, but it's a given that things like RAPE and CHILD MOLESTING are obviously things that have very NEGATIVE ramifications. So don't just sit there trying to nick pick through my article just to say you pointed out something "wrong" in what i said. You don't earn anything by doing that. How about instead of trying to just say to me, you're wrong, tell everyone else what you think works. This isn't a contest. I appreciate your feedback but it's obvious you're on a mission here.I'm going to borrow a train of logic from Hans on OA - I could say that I was willing to risk going to jail for having sex with kids.
The only problem with this is you don't take into consideration feelings and emotions as well as things that could come of sex. But I do agree with the comment that religion does make sex to be more than what it really is. Watch the movie Dr.Kinsey, great movie.Religious people have twisted sex into this sacred thing that it isn't. It is the basic urge, the desire to reproduce. It is about two sweaty hot bodies pumping together and a rush of endomorphines. The only value to it is what YOU ascribe to it, and from reading your posts it isn't so much what you think it is instead what you have been told and conditioned to think.