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[Teknoman]

Yeah im gonna start saving up credit/gift points/etc. on the side for em. Especially since they both seem to be climbing constantly. Sucky part is that Blast Wind wasnt that high on the expensive side a couple years ago. Hyper Duel has been for awhile.

Both have 120% awesome soundtracks.

 

[sixteen-bit]

I'm a latecomer to the tecnosoft love so yeah i'm sad they're expensive lol

 

[Jaeger]

I'm a latecomer to the tecnosoft love so yeah i'm sad they're expensive lol

Same. Hyper Duel is easily one of my favorite STGs and I probably won't ever own the game, ever with the rising price of the Saturn version.

 

[AlphaProspector]

From what I understand, Treasure can't self-publish any of their other HD games/ports (Silvergun, Bangai-O) because the publishing rights for those specific versions are held by the publishers (MS, D3).

Hmmm, I didn't know that and blast, that's a shame...

So Ikaruga was self-published by them on XBLA then, right?

 

[Lettuce]

Hey guys, let's all vote our beloved shmups to get them a spot on Xbox One's BC to X360.
Super easy, you just sign in with you Live account, type a name and vote:
https://xbox.uservoice.com/forums/298503?query=Akai

I'm posting the list of the shmups which are currently available to be voted, so all you need to do is to copy/paste.
(Unfortunately you can only vote for games which have been released in the US... hopefully that'll change or I'll be a sad panda)

Akai Katana
Guwange
Raiden IV
Raiden Fighters Aces
Otomedius Excellent
Deathsmiles IIX
Deathsmiles
Under Defeat HD
Bangai-o HD
Omega Five
R-Type Dimensions
Galaga Legions
Galaga Legions DX
Geometry Wars Retro Evolved
Geometry Wars 2
Radiant Silvergun
Ikaruga
Strania
Triggerheart Excelica
Raystorm HD
Trouble Witches Neo
Shooting Love 200x
Space Invaders Extreme
Space Invaders Infinity Gene
KOF Sky Stage
Sine Mora
Senko no Ronde

Dont forget about, Hard Corps: Uprising, as well!!!

 

[@MUWANdo]

Hmmm, I didn't know that and blast, that's a shame...

So Ikaruga was self-published by them on XBLA then, right?

Ikaruga was published by MS on XBLA but I believe it was a different arrangement where MS "published" it as a way of getting early console exclusivity, but as far as I know, they straight-up paid for Silvergun, so that version's theirs.

Treasure owns the rights/IP to Ikaruga, Silvergun, Bangai-O and Stretch Panic, it's just those specific XBLA ports that they can't freely re-release. (Sega owns every version of Guardian Heroes)

They could always make a new Bangai-O and it'd be fine, but Silvergun's trickier--they can't really make a sequel without Iuchi and there's no sense in porting the barebones Saturn game again as it'll just compare unfavourably to the existing XBLA version. They could always just pay royalties for MS or have them publish it themselves for Windows 10 or whatever but it's not even a money issue, it's more trying to get these huge companies to devote the time to work out deals for relatively insignificant games like these.

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

Blast Wind used to be dirt cheap.
Picked up a copy for $20 way back when.

Then demand spiked to absurd levels.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Dont forget about, Hard Corps: Uprising, as well!!!

Can they fix the load times via BC? I'd love that!

 

[danowat]

What are the best shmups on next gen consoles? Digital, retail, import, whatever...

 

[Lettuce]

So whats the great not so well know shoot em ups on MAME....there appears to be a lot of guff!!

After just discovering Shienryu and Sorcer Striker i wounder what other gems there might be?

 

[Tain]

After just discovering Shienryu and Sorcer Striker i wounder what other gems there might be?

There are so many. Too many. A handful at random: Armed Police Batrider, Batsugun, X Multiply, and Progear no Arashi.

What are the best shmups on next gen consoles? Digital, retail, import, whatever...

Honestly, there's nothing notable yet. There's a laggy PS4 port of the original Gradius and Resogun is kinda neat. Raiden V is coming to Xbox One.

 

[AmyS]

Blast Wind used to be dirt cheap.
Picked up a copy for $20 way back when.

Then demand spiked to absurd levels.

And now the average price is (roughly) ten times that. lol.

 

[danowat]

Honestly, there's nothing notable yet. There's a laggy PS4 port of the original Gradius and Resogun is kinda neat. Raiden V is coming to Xbox One.

I guessed as much, I'll stick withe Jamestown for the time being then.

 

[Teknoman]

Blast Wind used to be dirt cheap.
Picked up a copy for $20 way back when.

Then demand spiked to absurd levels.

Man I wish I knew about it back then.

 

[SOME-MIST]

So whats the great not so well know shoot em ups on MAME....there appears to be a lot of guff!!

After just discovering Shienryu and Sorcer Striker i wounder what other gems there might be?

along with tain's recommendations, check out dimahoo (great mahou daisakusen) which is the follow up to mahou daisakusen (sorcer striker). it was one of the first games to introduce polarity mechanics to the genre (similar to ikaruga).

also battle garegga if you've never played it. one of the best soundtracks in the genre

 

[AmyS]

Anyone tried Sand Scorpion in MAME? Looks pretty nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxmcnrWsq7g

 

[Lettuce]

Battle Bakraid also seems good in MAME

 

[Blackbird@Degica]

There will be a live preview event for an upcoming game on my channel tomorrow (7/11) at 6PM EST.

Shmup fans are encouraged to attend, so I hope to see you there

http://www.twitch.tv/degigames

 

[Remembrance]

I guess everyone guessed it would be Deltazeal.

If you buy both Triangle Service games on Steam, will that cover all the content in Shooting Love 10th Anniversary on 360?

 

[shaowebb]

There will be a live preview event for an upcoming game on my channel tomorrow (7/11) at 6PM EST.

Shmup fans are encouraged to attend, so I hope to see you there

http://www.twitch.tv/degigames

Tuning in now.

 

[MrDoctor]

I guess everyone guessed it would be Deltazeal.

If you buy both Triangle Service games on Steam, will that cover all the content in Shooting Love 10th Anniversary on 360?

XIIZeal is the same as the 360 version from what I've seen. Unless something is different with DeltaZeal, what you asked is true.

 

[cj_iwakura]

I wonder if we'll ever get a shot at Radilgy 2. My kingdom for it.

 

[shaowebb]

I wonder if we'll ever get a shot at Radilgy 2. My kingdom for it.

I'd love that...honestly I'd like it if I could even figure out Karous on the Ultimate Shooting Collection (Milestone Collection1). Radirgy was super fun. Milestone is super fun in general and I'd be for seeing more of it.

EDIT:
Back on the Deltazeal stream new stuff.
Oooh...if there is demand they may be able to setup the ost for Deltazeal for purchase.

 

[Tain]

Oh neat, DeltaZeal.

 

[Blackbird@Degica]

Lots of players anticipated this since the other half of Shooting Love 10th Anniversary was conspicuously missing ^_^;

I am happy to confirm that we will be releasing DeltaZeal!




Launch is expected in October, with a price similar to XIIZeal on Steam (12 USD or less).

Early testing on the beta version feels very similar to XIIZeal PC, and we've incorporated a lot of the improvements that have been made in XIIZeal's development so far (added shareable replays, fixed bugs, etc.). Barring the unexpected, I expect this will be a solid port as well. Please look forward to it!

If you missed the live preview earlier, you can see it here: http://www.twitch.tv/degigames/c/6949622

 

[Jotamide]

I wonder if we'll ever get a shot at Radilgy 2. My kingdom for it.

You mean Radirgy Noa? I have it for 360, came with the Sakura Flamingo Collection. Ugh, I despise that game. Biggest waste of money of my life. Noa was the only game that played remotely ok in that pos but the damage was done, I never touched it again.

 

[@MUWANdo]

The company that owns the license to all the old Milestone games still exists but everyone involved with those games left and/or was let go, so there's no way the ports will even be as good as the Sakura Flamingo Archives versions, let alone better.

There's a Windows build of Radirgy Noa, incidentally--k.h.d.n hid it in the files of the last OST Milestone put out before it closed.

 

[MrDoctor]

Early testing on the beta version feels very similar to XIIZeal PC, and we've incorporated a lot of the improvements that have been made in XIIZeal's development so far (added shareable replays, fixed bugs, etc.). Barring the unexpected, I expect this will be a solid port as well. Please look forward to it!

Whoa, I had no idea you were putting that much effort into these ports. Might grab them both at some point so I don't have to haul out my 360.

 

[Square2015]

Quick! Which shoot 'em up has the best soundtrack, of all time?
Gradius?

 

[Jotamide]

Quick! Which shoot 'em up has the best soundtrack, of all time?
Gradius?

Battle Garegga tied with Ketsui

 

[luka]

Quick! Which shoot 'em up has the best soundtrack, of all time?
Gradius?

thunder force 4 tied with metal black

 

[ghibli99]

thunder force 4 tied with metal black

Hell yes. Semi-modern standout for me would be Espgaluda, especially Ravine. So damn good.

 

[MrDoctor]

Battle Garegga is still Namiki's best work.

 

[cj_iwakura]

Quick! Which shoot 'em up has the best soundtrack, of all time?
Gradius?

Darius Gaiden or Castle Shikigami 2.

 

[adversesolutions]

So if anybody bought Ketsui for PS3 and then either a) found it impossibly hard or b) thought you were experiencing display lag, something important I discovered this weekend:

Make sure the PS3 system settings are on the native resolution of your TV set. I had mine set on 1080p and was getting murdered by everything. I de-selected all other resolutions and then set the resolution to 720p and 480p respectively. There was a noticable improvement at 720p, but 480p proved to be the best fit. Despite using a big-screen I'm getting control response similar to the arcade, which is absolutely critical for Ketsui. If you don't have that, you'll be dying over and over again on the twitch-danmaku of the 1-2 mid-boss.

If you thought you sucked at Ketsui, you probably don't! Mess around with your display settings! I'm using HDMI, but Component would probably give even better results.

 

[Jotamide]

So if anybody bought Ketsui for PS3 and then either a) found it impossibly hard or b) thought you were experiencing display lag, something important I discovered this weekend:

Make sure the PS3 system settings are on the native resolution of your TV set. I had mine set on 1080p and was getting murdered by everything. I de-selected all other resolutions and then set the resolution to 720p and 480p respectively. There was a noticable improvement at 720p, but 480p proved to be the best fit. Despite using a big-screen I'm getting control response similar to the arcade, which is absolutely critical for Ketsui. If you don't have that, you'll be dying over and over again on the twitch-danmaku of the 1-2 mid-boss.

If you thought you sucked at Ketsui, you probably don't! Mess around with your display settings! I'm using HDMI, but Component would probably give even better results.

Thanks for sharing this! Will probably check with my monitor instead of the TV though.

 

[Original Famous Ray]

Quick! Which shoot 'em up has the best soundtrack, of all time?
Gradius?

Lords of Thunder. Love it!

 

[SOME-MIST]

Quick! Which shoot 'em up has the best soundtrack, of all time?
Gradius?

also battle garegga if you've never played it. one of the best soundtracks in the genre

garegga is my obvious choice. thunder dragon 2 has been catching my ear as of late.
the stage 5 song in dodonpachi daifukkatsu black label always gets me too

 

[sixteen-bit]

Darius Gaiden or Castle Shikigami 2.

Zuntata FTW

 

[shockdude]

While maybe not the best of all time, eXceed 3rd's OST is still very good. It's so good that it costs more than the actual game.

Or maybe I just like the game's main menu theme too much.

 

[Blackbird@Degica]

Quick! Which shoot 'em up has the best soundtrack, of all time?
Gradius?

My Top 5:

Gradius Gaiden Really hard to pick a favorite from this series. Gradius 3 is also excellent.
DoDonPachi DFK BL
Eschatos
Bari-Arm/Android Assault
Ketsui

I could go on, there are a lot of shmups with really good soundtracks. I actually made a thread some time ago with links to many of them, need to update that sometime.

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=49578

 

[orborborb]

Quick! Which shoot 'em up has the best soundtrack, of all time?
Gradius?

probably Gradius (mostly just the original game), but here's my other top 5 contenders

Darius II
Metal Black
Raystorm
Battle Garegga
Border Down

 

[Yuterald]

Picked up and ran Astebreed on PS4 a few times. I really like it, but holy shit is it chatty. I usually dig stupid, drama-filled anime plots, but this was probably the first game where I had to turn that shit off. Was so distracting. Very cool that there was an option to disable the chatter.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

There's a great article on Eurogamer about one of the last real arcade nexus in China. They all got some of the best Chinese STG players, with all the real PCBs, hanging on to dear life. The journalist asking about a player's favorite and least favorite shmup got a good chuckle out of me.

Although our skill levels are worlds apart, I'm pleasantly surprised to find our tastes are about even. When I ask him what he considers the best and worst the STG genre has to offer, he instantly throws up DoDonpachi DaiOuJou.

"For me it's the best of all. Because its bullets have an organic nature, and the pressure of the second loop [which restarts the game at a much higher difficulty level and strips you of all your lives] is incredible. I think it's the most perfectly constructed STG ever made. It took me four years of playing on weekends to get the 2 loop clear, but I'm still trying to improve my score. My next goal is 1.8 billion."

And the worst?

"Definitely Ikaruga," he replies.

I can't help but smile. Treasure's avant-garde polarity switching game was once a darling of the mainstream press, but among STG circles its virtues have never been so black and white.

"It's just not really an STG," he continues. "It doesn't really play the same. There's not a lot of actual shooting going on."

some sexy ass CRT pics:

 

[shaowebb]

Quick! Which shoot 'em up has the best soundtrack, of all time?
Gradius?

Castle Shikigami 2. The soundtrack is so good that you have the option in Shiki 3 to change the soundtrack to Shiki 2. Its that damned good.

Just listen to this track and feel good as you fly and shoot

 

[Bassmastergeneral]

Lots of players anticipated this since the other half of Shooting Love 10th Anniversary was conspicuously missing ^_^;

I am happy to confirm that we will be releasing DeltaZeal!




Launch is expected in October, with a price similar to XIIZeal on Steam (12 USD or less).

Early testing on the beta version feels very similar to XIIZeal PC, and we've incorporated a lot of the improvements that have been made in XIIZeal's development so far (added shareable replays, fixed bugs, etc.). Barring the unexpected, I expect this will be a solid port as well. Please look forward to it!

If you missed the live preview earlier, you can see it here: http://www.twitch.tv/degigames/c/6949622

That is great news! I really like this game and spent a LOT of time going through it recently. Easily my favorite of the triangle service games.

 

[Tain]

There's a great article on Eurogamer about one of the last real arcade nexus in China. They all got some of the best Chinese STG players, with all the real PCBs, hanging on to dear life. The journalist asking about a player's favorite and least favorite shmup got a good chuckle out of me.

this rules, thank you

 

[sixteen-bit]

Castle Shikigami 2. The soundtrack is so good that you have the option in Shiki 3 to change the soundtrack to Shiki 2. Its that damned good.

Just listen to this track and feel good as you fly and shoot

I could play the SnS1 soundtrack in SnS2 as well. I guess it's a series mainstay.

 

[Jotamide]

You mean Radirgy Noa? I have it for 360, came with the Sakura Flamingo Collection. Ugh, I despise that game. Biggest waste of money of my life. Noa was the only game that played remotely ok in that pos but the damage was done, I never touched it again.

I can't fucking believe that I got proven wrong so quickly, this was just tweeted by the shmups forum twitter. Not even even Radirgy Noa was safe.

FUCK KLON / MILESTONE

There's a great article on Eurogamer about one of the last real arcade nexus in China. They all got some of the best Chinese STG players, with all the real PCBs, hanging on to dear life. The journalist asking about a player's favorite and least favorite shmup got a good chuckle out of me.

Thanks for sharing this!

 

[ShalashaskaEx]

Lots of players anticipated this since the other half of Shooting Love 10th Anniversary was conspicuously missing ^_^;

I am happy to confirm that we will be releasing DeltaZeal!

Awesome! I'll definitely have to pick this up.