Shoot the Core! - Gaf Shoot ‘em Up (aka Shooter/SHMUP) Reference Thread

For what reasons? I, too, have never played it.

Really? Never played DUX - and after looking at some vids, it does not look like I missed much.

Slow gameplay, clunky hit detection and controls, boring graphics with mostly static sprites and a repetitive art style for the backgrounds and enemies. Those are the usual gripes. I mostly agree with all of those complaints, although I'm interested in seeing what they can do with Redux.
 
I suppose I should have at least one Dreamcast shmup, even though I have no plans of getting a DC stick.

(Hmm... Hori VF4 PS2 stick -> Total Control Plus?)

Are Giga Wing 2 and Mars Matrix the ones to get?

Mars Matrix absolutely, it's simply stunning.

GW2 is nice but nothing outstanding, I'd go with Zero Gunner 2, Under Defeat (if you haven't got a ps360 which I doubt), Border Down, Psyvariar 2, Shikigami No Shiro 2 and Gunbird 2 (doesn't work on Vga Box tho!) waaaay before that one. Not a proper shmup but I always loved Cannon Spike.
 
Cannon Spike is absolute madness co-op. Best damned arena shooter.

Man. I WISH I had picked up Cannon Spike when I had the chance. That's the one hole in my collection that still stings. Everything about it looked super amazing. Charlie, on roller blades, with a fucking gun? Fuck yea, why not!
 
Cannon Spike is absolute madness co-op. Best damned arena shooter.

Its funny how cheap I picked this up for years ago. At least its normal game prices and not insanely high...yet.

EDIT: Scratch that...100 bucks complete x_x

At least the import is half that. Guess I better look into how to play DC import titles.
 
For what reasons? I, too, have never played it.

Putting aside the fact that it's a memoriser/euroshup, a style which generally isn't popular to begin with, this particular one is boring, repetitive and buggy. The dev also blew up at people for complaining about a counter-stop bug or something, which turned a lot of people off even further.
 
I wish someone would give us a port of Vasara 1 & 2! Always wanted to own these as they are hidden gems imo.

I used to the original Vasara PCB, but traded it for another game after a year or so.

Really good shooter - though it gets by more on its awesome style than it does on any sort of gameplay or scoring hooks. I hear the second one is much better, but I never played it.

Running into another enemy ship and bouncing off with a "klang" never gets old.
 
Mars Matrix absolutely, it's simply stunning.

GW2 is nice but nothing outstanding, I'd go with Zero Gunner 2, Under Defeat (if you haven't got a ps360 which I doubt), Border Down, Psyvariar 2, Shikigami No Shiro 2 and Gunbird 2 (doesn't work on Vga Box tho!) waaaay before that one. Not a proper shmup but I always loved Cannon Spike.

I don't know, I like Giga Wing 2 more than a bunch of those games you mentioned. It's not better than Under Defeat certainly, and probably not Border Down, but the rest? I don't know, I'd probably rather play Giga Wing 2 than any of those. They are all good games though, yes.


On another note, people often mention all those Dreamcast shmups we didn't get, and for good reason (stuff like Ikaruga and Under Defeat are some of the best games in the genre!), but we actually got most of the shooting games released during the systems' actual life. I mean, of games released by the time of the systems' death in early 2002, there are only a couple not released in the West... Zero Gunner 2 and Twinkle Star Sprites are it, and that latter one wasn't released outside of Japan on any platform (even though the Neo-Geo and Dreamcast versions both have a full English text option, it wasn't). We did get the rest of them -- Giga Wing 1 and 2, Mars Matrix, Gunbird 2, and Bangai-Oh. Also Cannon Spike as well, for arena shooters. Rail shooters was more mixed though -- Rez of course was Europe/Japan only, and Rainbow Cotton Japan-only, though if you count Charge 'n Blast as one we did get that one -- but the other kinds of shooting games mostly came over.

What happened, of course, was that they kept releasing shmups on the DC for five plus years after the systems' death... it's funny that a system that bombed as hard as the DC did in Japan had enough of a hardcore market to keep the shmups and dating-sim ports coming for years, but it did. Of course the DC got virtually nothing other than those two genres after spring 2002 (three KOF games from SNK, Puyo Puyo Fever, and that's about it), but it had the shmups... but of the ones released while the DC was actually alive, we actually got almost all of them. There just weren't all that many in total.

Its funny how cheap I picked this up for years ago. At least its normal game prices and not insanely high...yet.

EDIT: Scratch that...100 bucks complete x_x

At least the import is half that. Guess I better look into how to play DC import titles.
It's easy to play backups/copies, of course, but not so easy to play actual other-region discs... it might require a hard mod? I'm not certain.
 
It's easy to play backups/copies, of course, but not so easy to play actual other-region discs... it might require a hard mod? I'm not certain.

I picked up one of these discs on eBay for a few bucks a couple of weeks ago. Functions identically to the Action Replay, with the one difference in that you have to swap discs. Very painless and easy and works in a VGA setup (others don't). I'm very pleased with it. Was thinking I'd have to get a J-DC but now I'm just going to keep my NA DCs.

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So I have been practicing on MushiFutari, just trying to simply 1CC. I have been playing on my 52'' tv and its fine but I wanted some TATE action. I have no money to invest into a much needed mini TATE setup, so I rigged this up with an extra monitor I had laying around. Once I have a little extra money I want to invest into a swiveling LCD stand and a dedicated play area. It feels like I have this on life support using my wireless astro sound receiver to get sound through my PC speakers. ahahaha Felt like I needed to share this.
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Being held up by one of those grip things you put on floor mats/dishes.
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Wireless audio lol
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Hope it holds up for a bit!
 
I will suggest not resting your stick on the same table that is precariously hoping not to dump a monitor off a padded rest since you don't own a tate setup yet. Just plop the stick on your lap for now so you don't vibrate that table and risk shaking the whole thing down.
 
I will suggest not resting your stick on the same table that is precariously hoping not to dump a monitor off a padded rest since you don't own a tate setup yet. Just plop the stick on your lap for now so you don't vibrate that table and risk shaking the whole thing down.

Will do! I just realized that it wasn't smart having my xbox standing up right next to it as well. Just imagine it toppling over and my disc getting a nasty ring burn. First run with the set up I got to level 3 boss with no lives lost! The furthest I have gotten, I am quite proud. :D
 
Will do! I just realized that it wasn't smart having my xbox standing up right next to it as well. Just imagine it toppling over and my disc getting a nasty ring burn. First run with the set up I got to level 3 boss with no lives lost! The furthest I have gotten, I am quite proud. :D

Yes. Oh god yes do that. I can't believe that wasn't my first thought because that game aint cheap in the slightest. Damaging it in a tate fail would be horrible. How big is your monitor BTW? You may be able to find a decent rotateable monitor mount cheaply for it.

I can't really do that since I play everything on my 36 in LCD via HDMI input.
 
Time again to show current Tate setups?

I've got a great VGA DC setup right now with Under Defeat. So much better than my PS360 versions of the game as they appear on the HDTV. Ironic, but way more detail on my VGA setup. My setup is likely better than a Naomi cab. A pure joy to play.
 
It's easy to play backups/copies, of course, but not so easy to play actual other-region discs... it might require a hard mod? I'm not certain.

I picked up one of these discs on eBay for a few bucks a couple of weeks ago. Functions identically to the Action Replay, with the one difference in that you have to swap discs. Very painless and easy and works in a VGA setup (others don't). I'm very pleased with it. Was thinking I'd have to get a J-DC but now I'm just going to keep my NA DCs.

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I need to snag one of these then. Is it just called a Dreamcast gameshark?
 
Its a lil 19'', I was going to go to a local computer shop tomorrow to see if they have second hand ones for cheap. The last thing I need to do is destroy my precious copy of MusiFutari! Post a pic of it Yes Boss!.
 
I picked up one of these discs on eBay for a few bucks a couple of weeks ago. Functions identically to the Action Replay, with the one difference in that you have to swap discs. Very painless and easy and works in a VGA setup (others don't). I'm very pleased with it. Was thinking I'd have to get a J-DC but now I'm just going to keep my NA DCs.

How exactly do you use this disc to bypass region encoding?
 
How exactly do you use this disc to bypass region encoding?

Looking at NCSX website:

Choose play game without codes, but dont press accept yet (the button?). Remove the disc, insert import, then press accept on play game without codes.


I guess you just put in the cheat disc, highlight play game without code, open and switch to whatever import you want to play, close top and then go ahead and start the game.
 
Awesome, done and done!

EDIT: Under Defeat DC through a VGA shows more detail than the HD in Under Defeat HD?

For me, yes. A little bit to do with the screen being slightly bigger but altogether detail is better. For example, in the first level the birds are so much clearer, as are the little rockets on the first boss. And the little red reticules that highlight the enemies are much more present. Just feels like a purer experience. I've also got it on a very nice VGA monitor.

Looking at NCSX website:

Choose play game without codes, but dont press accept yet (the button?). Remove the disc, insert import, then press accept on play game without codes.


I guess you just put in the cheat disc, highlight play game without code, open and switch to whatever import you want to play, close top and then go ahead and start the game.

Yep, that is how it works. If you are familiar with the Saturn 4-in-1 then it is almost identical.
 
What does it say in that picture with the girl in red getting all torn up? "Cutin break?" Maybe they were going for "Curtain break?" Oh Japan, never change.
 
Hi there,

Can someone here tell me if the japanese version of Raiden Fighters aces is region free? Can't get a clear answer on the web.

Tx in advance.
 
I want to ask you all what remaining games I should try to get to fill out my SNES/PS1/Saturn collections, but I'm afraid it will be taken as bragging since I have to list the ones I currently have in order to do it. And no one likes a braggart.

So I guess I'm trying to ask for permission =\
 
I want to ask you all what remaining games I should try to get to fill out my SNES/PS1/Saturn collections, but I'm afraid it will be taken as bragging since I have to list the ones I currently have in order to do it. And no one likes a braggart.

So I guess I'm trying to ask for permission =\

Did you see all the collection photos earlier in the thread?
 
Alright, ShmupGAF. I need you to name some shooters to help me fill in my collection. I'll list what I already have for the consoles I'm interested in, so feel free to name that you've either played and enjoyed or have heard are great. Please don't take this as a bragging list thread. I just love shmups and I don't want to miss out on any for fear of asking.

Saturn

Batsugun
Battle Garegga
Blast Wind
Bokan to Ippatsu! Doronbo Kanpekihen
Bulk Slash
Cotton Boomerang
Cotton 2: Magical Night Dreams
Darius II
Darius Gaiden
Detana Twinbee Yahho! Deluxe Pack
DonPachi
DoDonPachi
Gekirindan
Gokujo Parodius-Da! Deluxe Pack
Gradius Deluxe Pack
Guardian Force
Gun Frontier
Gunbird
Hyper Duel
Kingdom Grand Prix
Konami Antiques: MSX Collection
Layer Section
Layer Section 2
Metal Black
Radiant Silvergun
Salamander Deluxe Pack Plus
Sengoku Blade
Sexy Parodius
Shienryu
Sonic Wings Special
Soukyugurentai
Strikers 1945
Strikers 1945 II
Thunder Force Gold Pack 1
Thunder Force Gold Pack 2
Thunder Force V Special Pack
Jikkyou Oshaberi Parodius
Sol Divide
Assault Suit Leynos 2

SNES


Axelay
Darius Twin
Earth Defense Force
Gradius III
U.N. Squadron
Raiden Trad

PS1

Einhander
G-Darius
RayCrisis
R-Types
R-Type Delta

Dreamcast

Giga Wing
Giga Wing 2
Gunbird 2
Mars Matrix
 
Alright, ShmupGAF. I need you to name some shooters to help me fill in my collection. I'll list what I already have for the consoles I'm interested in, so feel free to name that you've either played and enjoyed or have heard are great. Please don't take this as a bragging list thread. I just love shmups and I don't want to miss out on any for fear of asking.

Here's some you may want to get for your Dreamcast
Bangai-O
Border Down (JP)
Cannon Spike
Chaos Field (JP)
Fast Striker
Ikaruga (JP)
Karous (JP)
Last Hope (Pink Bullets)
Psyvariar 2: The Will to Fabricate (JP)
Radirgy (JP)
Triggerheart Exelica (JP)
Trizeal (JP)
Under Defeat (JP)
Zero Gunner 2 (JP)
 
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