exactly. My wife is a psychologist and she said this after Trump was elected and all the talk about removing Obama care. People with no jobs or severely under paying jobs and no Healthcare become very desperate.
Shooting at GOP baseball practice, multiple injured incl/ Maj. Whip Scalise
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For once, Trump did not immediately put his foot in his mouth with his statement, at least.
Ah, good old thoughts and prayers.
old manatee
Banned
A GOP martyr is the last thing we needed.
Definitely not written by Trump. I await the tweets.
It was a charity game of politicians and aides that was manned by the captiol police.
From NYT: Member of Congress Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field in Virginia
Active shooter situation during this mornings trip to the Y. Terrifying. Am ok. Sheltered in place & under lockdown.
— Joseph Miscavige‏ (@JoeMiscavige) June 14, 2017
— Joseph Miscavige‏ (@JoeMiscavige) June 14, 2017
PanicFreak
Member
I think that's a major reason why this shooting occurred. Spur of the moment decision and the guy had an assault rifle.
Eh... I have a hard time believing it wasn't targeted. The guy just happened to be there?
I do hope the police officers make a recovery.
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
Must have gotten an intern to write it on account of not wanting to tweet and get chocolate cake all over his smartphone.
Emperor_Uriel
Member
Horrible and I hope everyone recovers smoothly...
...but for God's sake, read the room people. At a time when Congress is widely considered to be apathetic and impotent at best, and wholly corrupt at worst, spending time on recreation in plain public view is a stupid idea.
...but for God's sake, read the room people. At a time when Congress is widely considered to be apathetic and impotent at best, and wholly corrupt at worst, spending time on recreation in plain public view is a stupid idea.
Cymbal Head
Banned
Jesus.
Will be interesting to see how the GOP responds to this politically, but in any event I hope everybody injured is able to recover.
Will be interesting to see how the GOP responds to this politically, but in any event I hope everybody injured is able to recover.
It's more that I'm curious how that was promoted such that someone could wander up and ask that question - how the person in question knew it was a political charity game but not to the extent of knowing which party is participating.
Hey Rand, it seems to be a politically motivated attack hence why the shooter was asking what party people were affiliated with. Let's not start beating the "let's give everyone a gun" drum so soon. You don't even know if there would have been an attack if politicians weren't there.
Novel Mike
Member
Well its likely written by a staffer so that helps.
I really don't have much to say as to the shooting itself right now, not until we have more information. I hope that no one dies.
Darryl M R
Member
After seeing that the guy had 50 bullets I agree.
I can tell you with great surety that this statement does not actually come from Trump
Yeah. When it comes to political figures, it's more likely to be targeted.
FunkyMunkey
Banned
ill echo the "the fuck you think is going to happen?" line to these people. you take away everything from people and they literally have nothing to lose. look back at any time in history and the response to a government bordering on literally killing its citizens is never ever a peaceful one.
i don't condone it one bit, but logically speaking it's an unfortunate but very predictable outcome for where things are headed. especially people in Congress acting and behaving like they live in an ivory tower immune to the plebs of society. they are not immortal or inaccessible and too bad it takes tragedies like this for some to remember that
i don't condone it one bit, but logically speaking it's an unfortunate but very predictable outcome for where things are headed. especially people in Congress acting and behaving like they live in an ivory tower immune to the plebs of society. they are not immortal or inaccessible and too bad it takes tragedies like this for some to remember that
gutter_trash
Banned
this was an attack on Democracy,
the solution is strict gun control
the solution is strict gun control
Oh, I know. But his lack of action also is an avoidance of him putting his foot in his mouth. I fully expect there to be a speech about how there needs to be guns everywhere to prevent this and that the democrats are terrorists.
It sounds like it was after the game and people were getting ready to leave. It was a Dem v GOP game. I've heard of them before and I'm not in the area so I assume it's pretty publicized, especially locally
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
He was just saying with the majority whip was not there no cops would be there in the first place. He would have been dead and others.
It was pratice.
TheOctodad
Member
Horrible. Hope everyone makes a quick and strong recovery. This is not going to help anything in our polarized society.
I wouldn't say the resolution to many situations, but violence (war, assassinations, revolutions) has often been an answer/kindling that eventually results in diplomacy and resolution to an event.
Damn, this sucks. If this was a targeted attack on the GOP though, then it's not really surprising. You can only fuck with the rights and livelihood of the general populace for so long before people snap. I'm absolutely 100% not condoning this attack though. Just saying that it really super isn't surprising.
Greigor The Fellhand
Member
what in the fuck...
I see like one person actually cheering this.
bonesmccoy
Banned
There was a GOP pol who went on to become a gun control advocate after being shot - I want to say - in the attempted Reagan assassination?
Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
50 shots and nobody dead tells me 2 things; Either this shooter had no idea how to shoot, or they didn't want to actually kill anyone.
An AR15 is an extremely accurate hunting rifle that fires a .233/5.56 bullet. 50 shots would be a mag dump + 20 shots (possibly a drum mag?).
Even an average shooter (like myself) with an ar15 can put one in the chest at 100-200 yards.
What I am saying is thankfully this person was inexperienced, or unwilling to kill, because 50 rounds could have lead to multiple fatalities. Hope those injured pull through ok.
An AR15 is an extremely accurate hunting rifle that fires a .233/5.56 bullet. 50 shots would be a mag dump + 20 shots (possibly a drum mag?).
Even an average shooter (like myself) with an ar15 can put one in the chest at 100-200 yards.
What I am saying is thankfully this person was inexperienced, or unwilling to kill, because 50 rounds could have lead to multiple fatalities. Hope those injured pull through ok.
Yeah. This is the more likely result for this type of atrocity.
Krauser Kat
Member
Sucks they got shot.
Sucks they dont listen to their constituents and are heading towards murdering thousands with the healthcare law.
*shrugs
Sucks they dont listen to their constituents and are heading towards murdering thousands with the healthcare law.
*shrugs
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
People are cheering this?
CrocMother
Banned
So much depends on identity and motive of shooter.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
If he'd been planning the attack for some time, he may have seen this as a golden opportunity, and walked over to confirm that he was hitting the "right" people before presumably grabbing the gun from his car or a nearby hiding place.
I don't think it's an absurd statement to suggest that it would have been an open slaughter without security and capital police already on sight. That's not the same thing as saying "maybe if all the players were armed this wouldn't have happened."
If there were no political fatalities the security detail did an amazing job. The cops put their lives on the line and should definitely be commended and mourned.
Phoenix RISING
Banned
Our country is so divided among partisan lines that this couldn't be simply a shooting at a baseball practice, but they specifically HOP one.
Sigh.
Sigh.
So not a terrorist.
Darryl M R
Member
I only recall one poster "cheering" while other posters expressing their lack of sympathy. I think it is important not to conflate people cheering or justifying an attack with people not feeling sympathetic for a victim of an attack.
Also I purposefully said, "a victim" because there are multiple victims from the reported stories. No one is expressing lack of sympathy towards others that were harmed.
50 bullets really isn't that many if you're a gun aficionado with that kind of weapon. I think it was targeted, but that's less ammunition than you think.
Pilgrimzero
Member
Honestly surprised it hadn't happened sooner.
I hope all of those who don't deserve any of this are OK.
I hope all of those who don't deserve any of this are OK.