brandonh83
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My trip was already foretold by gyromancy. Not sure the Flauros will help with shit.
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Silent Hill HD Collection |OT| Programmed in Smoke Signals
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My trip was already foretold by gyromancy. Not sure the Flauros will help with shit.
afternoon delight
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Join us. I drive roads that go into W. VA often, and many a time' me and the girlfriend will have Yamaoka at full volume.
Feels creepy man.
Yeah, but LCD backlights absolutely destroy the crushing darkness those games aim for. What I found yesterday once again is that a CRT can deliver shadows that are dark enough that you feel as if you can't quite make them out and that adds to the fear. The games FEEL really dark and there are a lot of hidden details in the shadows that are tough to make out.
On an LCD, those same hallways become either clearly visible or you just end up with an empty sea of LCD backlight in your face.
Even though the Pioneer Kuro can handle the blacks necessary for this game, it's shadow detail capabilities actually still manage to hurt the mood. If you drop a CRT brightness down the entire image becomes darker (including blacks) but there is a threshold with flat panels in which dropping brightness leaves the black level at a set point while the shadow detail fades away instead.
I can't emphasize enough how important a good CRT is to the Silent Hill experience. A lot of the tension in those games was clearly designed to work in tandem with the displays most people were using. Making a horror game in 2012 is a very different thing as you need to take these displays into account. They can't use the same techniques.
brandonh83
Banned
Oh I have a breadth of Silent Hill music in my car at all times. Adding some Licht to that for this trip though.
Makes me want to find a Sony Triniton just for my old copies
Craigslist.
I still have my 2005 Sony HD CRT, but I picked up an SD Trinitron for my retro games and it is perfect for Silent Hill. I was surprised at how intense the games still managed to be when played in the right setting with the right display. I really miss that feeling. Even stuff like Amnesia can't match the best of Silent Hill.
sixteen-bit
Member
This collection sounds fucked up. Shame konami couldn't afford Bluepoint.
So guys, look who else thinks the Hd collection looks awful....
The picture I sent him was this BTW...
Incase you don't know who he is, Masahiro Ito was the background and creature designer of Silent Hill, art director and creature designer in Silent Hill 2 and art director, creature and background designer in Silent Hill 3.
The picture I sent him was this BTW...
Incase you don't know who he is, Masahiro Ito was the background and creature designer of Silent Hill, art director and creature designer in Silent Hill 2 and art director, creature and background designer in Silent Hill 3.
Broder Salsa
Banned
So guys, look who else thinks the Hd collection looks awful....
It's hard not to feel bad for him.
So guys, look who else thinks the Hd collection looks awful....The picture I sent him was this BTW...Incase you don't know who he is, Masahiro Ito was the background and creature designer of Silent Hill, art director and creature designer in Silent Hill 2 and art director, creature and background designer in Silent Hill 3.
Nevermind that, someone show him the boat ride video.
I just tweeted that video at him, man that's gotta be rough so see something you poured so much hard work and effort into get destroyed years later.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
I feel so bad for that guy.
So many people are going to be playing these games for the first time on this piece of shit collection and...I can't bear to think about it.
What the fuck Konami?
So many people are going to be playing these games for the first time on this piece of shit collection and...I can't bear to think about it.
What the fuck Konami?
So guys, look who else thinks the Hd collection looks awful....
The picture I sent him was this BTW...
Incase you don't know who he is, Masahiro Ito was the background and creature designer of Silent Hill, art director and creature designer in Silent Hill 2 and art director, creature and background designer in Silent Hill 3.
That's awful, way to kill the atmosphere.
I actually never got to play SH3, and now I'm considering tracking down an original PS2 copy.
Good question.
I still have faith in that one, personally, as WayForward has an excellent track record.
His response to the "water" video..
I don't think he's pleased.
Here's his twitter account: https://twitter.com/#!/adsk4
I don't think he's pleased.
Here's his twitter account: https://twitter.com/#!/adsk4
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
No idea. That game looks awful anyway.
Even the official website has changed the date to a nebulous "Spring 2012."
WayForward is a good studio,but I'd like to see a proper horror game/Silent Hill on Vita because the Vita's freaking oled screen can do wonders with traditional horror setting.
TheJollyCorner
Member
His response to the "water" video..
I don't think he's pleased.
Here's his twitter account: https://twitter.com/#!/adsk4
Absolutely love Ito.
Why isn't this man's work in more demand in this industry? His horror stuff is great, but man, he's got some fantastic 'fantasy' stuff as well. If anyone made an RPG with his art direction it would be really damn unique.
Audioboxer
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So guys, look who else thinks the Hd collection looks awful....
The picture I sent him was this BTW...
Incase you don't know who he is, Masahiro Ito was the background and creature designer of Silent Hill, art director and creature designer in Silent Hill 2 and art director, creature and background designer in Silent Hill 3.
A part of me smiles inside when seeing this kind of recognition, then a larger part of me dies inside when an artist sees this done to something he worked on.
edit: His Twitter background? lol.
RomanticHeroX
Member
Oh dear, who would've thought Hijinx Studio aren't the people to go to for a quality product? Really wishing I hadn't opened this already.
LestradeTGQ
Neo Member
This is pretty much what I want to know too. Not sure if we'll get an answer.
Damn, and I ditched my PS2 thinking that after getting this, all my favourite last-gen games would be covered. I hope somehow a PS2 Classics version pops up on PSN.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Holy smokes at his twitter background.
Anyway, poor guy. Talk about taking a cleaver to important bits of the game.
Anyway, poor guy. Talk about taking a cleaver to important bits of the game.
His response to the "water" video..
I don't think he's pleased.
Here's his twitter account: https://twitter.com/#!/adsk4
To be fair, I'm pretty sure they didn't do anything to the water. They just ruined the fog effects that were needed to make the water look good. Plus you can see the edge of the world again.
Just saw this and holy shit that entire scene was out of sync AND the framerate was all over the place.
Edit :
HUGE NIPPLES
Think about this: The man came up with the design for Pyramid Head.
He really is like the HR Giger of video games.
Checked again and it looks like they really DID change the water texture. Wow.
Same exact scenes:
TheJollyCorner
Member
So despite the technical issues, I have been enjoying SH2 for its old school charm and neat design. This is my first time playing so I'm not as disgusted as y'all over the graphical changes, just the fps issues. Would it be advisable to trade this HD collection in and try Downpour? I like the idea of a less linear survival horror game, with all the exploration/side quest perks.
Don't get me wrong, SH2 is cool, just broken on PS3. I don't have a PS2 and don't want to install Windows on the Macbook.
Don't get me wrong, SH2 is cool, just broken on PS3. I don't have a PS2 and don't want to install Windows on the Macbook.
Downpour is a very solid effort all around. Unfortunately, Downpour and the HD collection share more than just the franchise, since it also runs a bit crap-like.
Heh, it doesn't take nostalgia to be disgusted by being able to see the edge of the world and the horrible textures
Squirts Macintosh
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My reply was mostly in response to your shitty overreactive posting and apparent inability to make a single post without reference to rape, genocide, abortion, and now the holocaust? Grow the fuck up and learn how to make a decent argument. You don't need to defend your views like you're some prophet who figured out the secret that the game was messed up before anyone else did. You're just regurgitating the same bullshit repeatedly and it's annoying as hell.
GenericUser
Member
I read about the game here on GAF
I still have this sitting on my shelve (yes, i bought it with my ps2)
i will play it now with this:
still better then the hd stuff
I still have this sitting on my shelve (yes, i bought it with my ps2)
i will play it now with this:
still better then the hd stuff
Broder Salsa
Banned
Why would you play it with that freak controller?
Another weird change; the music in one of the endings for Silent Hill 2. Spoilers ahead, obviously.
HD Collection In Water
Original In Water
I know it doesn't sound like much, but small stuff like this is annoying me way more than half of the graphic glitches.
HD Collection In Water
Original In Water
I know it doesn't sound like much, but small stuff like this is annoying me way more than half of the graphic glitches.
Audioboxer
Member
I'm the one that linked them both. The water texture appears to be the same in both videos. The difference is that the original had thicker fog that evened out the gradients. I think the water looks like that so it would be visible through the thick fog, but now that the thick fog is gone it looks horrible. It's like they removed a layer from a photoshop document.
Checked again and it looks like they really DID change the water texture. Wow.
Same exact scenes:
I just can't... seriously... what the fuck.
How can that pass by? HOW?
Fuck Hijinx Studio as well as Konami, if they couldn't do the job well enough on whatever handful of peasant money Konami passed off for this project, they shouldn't of at all.
This isn't some shitty sequel in the Silent Hill world we can just sweep under the rug like we've had to in recent years, this is like taking a piece of art and shitting on it, then charging for it. You deserve to be burned for being any part of it.
XOMTOR
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I have a 27" Trinitron upstairs in the master bedroom which rarely gets used (TV, not bedroom..giggidy); you've convinced me to unplug the PS2 from the flatscreen and hook it up to the 'ol CRT.
The water in that scene is actually made up of moving polygons rather than simply applying a texture to a flat surface. The water throughout most of the game, however, simply uses a flat surface so this is a particularly unique scene. It's not really a texture issue, rather, a rendering problem.I'm the one that linked them both. The water texture appears to be the same in both videos. The difference is that the original had thicker fog that evened out the gradients. I think the water looks like that so it would be visible through the thick fog, but now that the thick fog is gone it looks horrible. It's like they removed a layer from a photoshop document.
Checked again and it looks like they really DID change the water texture. Wow.
Same exact scenes:
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
After this debacle, I have a hard time seeing Hijinx ever getting any significant work, if any work at all, in the vidya gaem industry.