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yea but she's married, so dont drool to long folks.

Anyway, it seems like people in this thread havent see smallville lately because clark was already called superman, and clark was already flying.

Where yall been at? :lol
 
He's been referred to as a superman/superhero, and it was Kal-El that flew. These are things that can be swept right back under the rug.

For Clark to rip open his shirt, expose the logo, and take off into the air would still be a hell of a thing to see.
 
Why wont they let us see him fly / be called superman / show teh logo :(
The people who are doing the licensing thing should let the goodies come.. the show can be so much cooler
 
because they don't want to dilute a possible movie franchise with a tv franchise. and the people who do the licensing are the same people who make the show and movie (Warner). Warner owns DC Comics, thus owns superman. all of the "rules" are internal mandates on what can be done on TV vs what can be done in the movies (similar rules apply for batman).

edit - and yes I know DC doesn't actually own superman and rights revert in like 2010 or whenever it is. but for the time being, they are in charge of the property.
 
I thought it was a good premiere. Tom Welling's doing a good job of portraying a maturing Clark, Lana managed to be cute as normal without being too annoying, the dynamic between Clark and Chloe now that the cat's out of the bag should be interesting (moreso than it was with Pete), and the growing animosity between Lex and Clark is neat. The scene transition between when the Depeche Mode song starts with Clark and Lana sharing their moment and leading up to the revealing of Brainiac (?) was very well done. That's how you end an episode. Oh, and the new intro to the show is a big, and long overdue, improvement.

It's not Battlestar Galatica good by any means, but it was certainly entertaining.

Hah, speaking on the new intro, they actually spelled Kristin Kreuk's name wrong (I visit Kryptonsite now and then). What an amazing fuck-up...

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Not having watched the show regularly I thought the Lois character was the weakest played of everyone there... when was the character introduced?
 
Last season, and my wife and I genuinely think she is the best young female on the show. Hers and Welling's tension/chemistry is awesome. IMHO of course.
 
Ok being clueless to this show's revised mythos but familiar with the comic book mythos I have to ask... how did Jor-El come to be 'alive' in this series?
 
DarienA said:
Not having watched the show regularly I thought the Lois character was the weakest played of everyone there... when was the character introduced?
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First episode of Season 4. I didn't care much for her at first either, and the actor playing her is too old (although Erica Durance is still undeniably hot) for the role, but I think she's improving. Not let's all ogle her. Amen.

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What's a good site to read and get write ups on each ep all the way back to season 1? I think I'd like to blast through them one night soon to see what I've missed and get in line with the shows' mythos.

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Hmm looks like smallvilleph.com has ep reviews all the way back to the beginning...cool.
 
I loved the look of disapointment on the Kents' faces when they realised they were gonna have to shell out to rebuild the house..it was like "Aww shit" :lol


And now the worlds most mismanaged farm (they have virtually zero overheads and still cant make a dime) will have to function without its sole employee.
 
Ghost said:
I loved the look of disapointment on the Kents' faces when they realised they were gonna have to shell out to rebuild the house..it was like "Aww shit" :lol


And now the worlds most mismanaged farm (they have virtually zero overheads and still cant make a dime) will have to function without its sole employee.
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So true! When they heard he lost his powers it almost looked as if Jonathan wanted to say "Well you ain't living here, what good are you to me now???"

:lol
 
Ghost said:
I loved the look of disapointment on the Kents' faces when they realised they were gonna have to shell out to rebuild the house..it was like "Aww shit" :lol


And now the worlds most mismanaged farm (they have virtually zero overheads and still cant make a dime) will have to function without its sole employee.
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Yeah that was pretty funny... you mean I'm going to have to redo this by hand? Damn....
 
they said no suit during the series. they have always said from the start (looking for link) that the last shot of the series will be Tom Welling in costume.

Seven seasons means two more after this. Being they seem to be adhering to Donner's superman and his "Superman" didn't appear until his thirties (at least it would seem) they could pull that off.

I lost faith after last season. Season 3 had me proclaiming the show as one of the best on television. by last season I had stopped caring if I saw it (to this day have missed a few in the middle with mystcal lana). Now they are bazck on track and I Can honestly say will watch next week's while it airs.
 
borghe said:
they said no suit during the series. they have always said from the start (looking for link) that the last shot of the series will be Tom Welling in costume.

Seven seasons means two more after this. Being they seem to be adhering to Donner's superman and his "Superman" didn't appear until his thirties (at least it would seem) they could pull that off.

I lost faith after last season. Season 3 had me proclaiming the show as one of the best on television. by last season I had stopped caring if I saw it (to this day have missed a few in the middle with mystcal lana). Now they are bazck on track and I Can honestly say will watch next week's while it airs.
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I thought Season 2 was the show's peak, but 3 had some good moments. Season 4 wasn't terrible overall, but it certainly had some terrible episodes. I think they're really aiming for a different direction with this season - they're out of high school, supposedly out of Smallville for alot of it, and Lex is becoming more Uber Evil Lex-like with each episode. Could be good, could be crap. Let us say a silent prayer to the TV gods that it's the former.
 
just wanted to throw out that the song that played durin the end of the episode last night was freakin awesome:

Depeche Mode - Precious

admit it...admit itttt
 
Matrix said:
I think the producers might have changed their minds on the no suit thing...

check out the last line of this article *spoilers*
http://www.nowplayingmag.com/content/view/2279/2/
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Also, I don't think they're banned from using the logo - after all, it's all over the Smallville merchandise, and they hinted at bits of it all the time during the fourth season. I think they just aren't allowed to abuse it the way Lois and Clark did (it was on every piece of Krypton-junk they found, IIRC).
 
What amazes me is how much Tom Welling looks like both Reeve and the "teenage clark" from Donner's Superman. The problem is that in the movie, Clark doesn't ever leave the Fortress of Solitude.

As far as Clark losing his powers, I have two theories: one is that the loss is a temporary one due to Clark being half-sucked into the Phantom Zone. The other is that the loss of powers was a result of his choice to save Lana--similar to how Superman lost his powers in.. was it Superman 2? or 3? I think it was 2. And probably similarly, he'll get them back somehow.

Now if they really want to do some Donner-Superman fanservice, we'll see the return of the Static Clingy Krypton-S from Superman 2. :lol

Nathan
 
I kinda figured the losing powers thing was obvious...he chose to stay with Lana instead of trying to make it back before sunset to the Fortress of Solitude. Nothing really to do with the silly time warp thing.
 
gblues said:
As far as Clark losing his powers, I have two theories: one is that the loss is a temporary one due to Clark being half-sucked into the Phantom Zone. The other is that the loss of powers was a result of his choice to save Lana--similar to how Superman lost his powers in.. was it Superman 2? or 3? I think it was 2. And probably similarly, he'll get them back somehow.
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Eh.. no. He was supposed to be back at the FoS "before the yellow sun sets" or else there would be consequences. This is that consequence.
 
raYne said:
Eh.. no. He was supposed to be back at the FoS "before the yellow sun sets" or else there would be consequences. This is that consequence.
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Of course that's the consequence but there has to be a reason as to WHY there had to be a consequence in the first place.
 
Well yeah, I'd gather there's a specific explanation but random guessing isn't going to help matters. That's what future episodes are for.

The way I see it, he finally got Clark to commit to the training and he chooses to stop to save Chloe. His reasoning could very well be: "Well, fine you can save her but you have to be back before the sun sets or else!" Because he's tired of all the delays and excuses. Which wouldn't be surprising since he did sound a bit pissed. :lol

But that'd obviously be my reasoning if I were seeing it from his pov.
 
Probably what will happen, like in Superman II, is that Brainiac (if that's him) will cause a riot in Smallville that Clark will hitch a ride to the fortress of solitude and then yell out "FAAATHER!" and then move one of the crystals and then TA-DA! Well, that's just a wild guess...but it might be in that sort of neighborhood. Villian causes trouble, Clark can't do shit, Clark begs for his powers back.

Also, I was a bit dissapointed that Clark didn't take out the S logo from out of his chest and throw it at them...and by that, I am just kidding :)
 
Whats the difference between using the logo and costume now and when they used it back in the Lois and Clark series though? :/
 
Speaking of bs (ie the cellofane "S"), Superman 2 came on earlier on ABCFamily. I completely forgot that he just let Zod and his people drop to the bottom of the fortress and left them there. :lol
YakiSOBA said:
Whats the difference between using the logo and costume now and when they used it back in the Lois and Clark series though? :/
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Three things:
1- Money.
2- Liscensing
3- Upcoming Superman movie.

In anycase, the show's called "Smallville" he doesn't become Superman until after he's done with college, becomes a reporter and moves to Metropolis. It's not gonna happen people.
 
raYne said:
In anycase, the show's called "Smallville" he doesn't become Superman until after he's done with college, becomes a reporter and moves to Metropolis. It's not gonna happen people.
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Well, he doesn't exactly meet Lois 'till after he leaves anyway and look what happend.
 
The whole Lois in Smalliville plot really pisses me off. I realize they have to make some modifications/additions to the Superman story since it's a weekly show. But bringing Lois to Smallville and having her as a permanent character is just too much.

Anyway, tonight's episode was pretty good. A lot better than last season. I stopped watching last season when Lana became a witch and the endless 90210 high school drama. I also hate how when an episode takes one step forward with the progression of Clark, then the next episode takes two steps back. Clark "forgets" how to fly, Clark never goes to Metropolis except to visit Luthor Corp, and Lex and Clark always remained friends at the end of the day.

However I have hope for this season since the friendship between Lex and Clark truly does seem strained. Some permanent distrust is developing and Lex is becoming truly evil. If the Lex character continues in this direction, I'll watch Smallville this season despite if Lana becomes a psychic ninja witch or if Lois and Clark start dating.
 
I really think Lex and Clark are done. Actually if you think about it Lex and Clark have been on the rocks since the end of season 3, and have pretty much been done since about 3/4 way through season 4. IMHO the writers just punctuated that for us, the audience, with the line in this week's episode "Clark, if you value our friendship at all you'll just be honest with me." And clark straight out lied to him.

they are done. at least that's how the writers have sure been making it look for almost a year now.
 
The Chosen One said:
The whole Lois in Smalliville plot really pisses me off. I realize they have to make some modifications/additions to the Superman story since it's a weekly show. But bringing Lois to Smallville and having her as a permanent character is just too much.

Anyway, tonight's episode was pretty good. A lot better than last season. I stopped watching last season when Lana became a witch and the endless 90210 high school drama. I also hate how when an episode takes one step forward with the progression of Clark, then the next episode takes two steps back. Clark "forgets" how to fly, Clark never goes to Metropolis except to visit Luthor Corp, and Lex and Clark always remained friends at the end of the day.

However I have hope for this season since the friendship between Lex and Clark truly does seem strained. Some permanent distrust is developing and Lex is becoming truly evil. If the Lex character continues in this direction, I'll watch Smallville this season despite if Lana becomes a psychic ninja witch or if Lois and Clark start dating.
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Season 4 was the worst, definitely. But I think you're nitpicking.

One of the rules they have for the show is no flying. Clark never flew, technically. Kal-El did. It was just a one-time thing to please the fans. Flying should never be in the show. They do have a budget and they can't do scenes like the Kal-El flying one every week. That's the one power they really should just save for Superman. Clark still needs to learn ice breath (I think that's a power Superman has, right? I'm not big on the comics) and I think he will this season.

Er, why would Clark need to go to Metropolis ever? He's been a high school student for the first 4 seasons the show has been on. He shouldn't be in the big city hardly ever. That's why they're doing a lot more Metropolis stories this year: he's going to college there.

EDIT: http://www.aintitcool.com/tb_display.cgi?id=21428#993259

God damn, Ain't It Cool posters have to be the absolute worst human beings ever. It's like GameFaqs for movies and TV.
 
Kenobi said:
Well, he doesn't exactly meet Lois 'till after he leaves anyway and look what happend.
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Well obviously at some point in the future he's going to kiss her and she'll forget ever meeting him via using his "powers".[/SupermanMovieLogic]
Zeo said:
Clark still needs to learn ice breath (I think that's a power Superman has, right? I'm not big on the comics) and I think he will this season.
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You know, I never really considered it being "Ice Breath".

To me it's just the same as normal humans being able to vary the temperature at which they blow air from their mouths, but since he's "Superman!" his breath is obviously a lot faster, which results in a much lower temperature drop. Hence "Ice".
 
The Chosen One said:
The whole Lois in Smalliville plot really pisses me off. I realize they have to make some modifications/additions to the Superman story since it's a weekly show. But bringing Lois to Smallville and having her as a permanent character is just too much.

Anyway, tonight's episode was pretty good. A lot better than last season. I stopped watching last season when Lana became a witch and the endless 90210 high school drama. I also hate how when an episode takes one step forward with the progression of Clark, then the next episode takes two steps back. Clark "forgets" how to fly, Clark never goes to Metropolis except to visit Luthor Corp, and Lex and Clark always remained friends at the end of the day.

However I have hope for this season since the friendship between Lex and Clark truly does seem strained. Some permanent distrust is developing and Lex is becoming truly evil. If the Lex character continues in this direction, I'll watch Smallville this season despite if Lana becomes a psychic ninja witch or if Lois and Clark start dating.
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QFT.
 
raYne said:
Eh.. no. He was supposed to be back at the FoS "before the yellow sun sets" or else there would be consequences. This is that consequence.
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Problem. He was AT THE NORTH POLE when that conversation took place. The sun takes 6 months to set at the north pole. Therefore the sun has not set yet, and Clark may have lost his powers by other means, i.e. being halfway in the Phantom Zone.

Or the writers failed highschool geology class.

Nathan
 
gblues said:
Problem. He was AT THE NORTH POLE when that conversation took place. The sun takes 6 months to set at the north pole. Therefore the sun has not set yet, and Clark may have lost his powers by other means, i.e. being halfway in the Phantom Zone.

Or the writers failed highschool geology class.

Nathan
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"It's ok Clark, I meant sunset here, so I'll see you in 6 months"

Jesus, stop over-analyzing everything. Are you going to have this timezone argument everytime something about "time" comes up? Eastern, central or pacific? What about GMT? Does daylight savings time matter?! My watch is 1 minute slow!!!
 
I hate the fact that Chloe always ends up getting a raw deal. There was speculation a while back that Chloe was going to become Lois in the future for some reason or another and while it is a bit ridiculous, I still secretly hope it happens. What's more likely to happen though is that Chloe ends up dead since she knows his secret. :/ Lame.
 
TheOMan said:
I hate the fact that Chloe always ends up getting a raw deal. There was speculation a while back that Chloe was going to become Lois in the future for some reason or another and while it is a bit ridiculous, I still secretly hope it happens. What's more likely to happen though is that Chloe ends up dead since she knows his secret. :/ Lame.
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Yeah well, we know Lana survives in the future as does Lois. However, I don't think I even heard of a Chloe Sullivan character in the Superman universe before this series started.* I always thought she died at some point anyway.


*Comic book readers/Superman know-it-alls feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken.
 
borghe said:
I really think Lex and Clark are done. Actually if you think about it Lex and Clark have been on the rocks since the end of season 3, and have pretty much been done since about 3/4 way through season 4. IMHO the writers just punctuated that for us, the audience, with the line in this week's episode "Clark, if you value our friendship at all you'll just be honest with me." And clark straight out lied to him.

they are done. at least that's how the writers have sure been making it look for almost a year now.
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Though I have always been sort of on the side of Lex and can see why he is turning to evil Clark actually did not lie to Lex. Lex asked if he was in the cave when the meteors struck and technically he wasn't. He was being transported to the North Pole. That doesn't mean Clark hasn't been lying to him and that's the real major flaw I have with this show, Clark for all his honest, justice, morality bullshit has no qualms being a lier to his supposed best friend. In fact if he would have been truthful from the start you could speculate Lex may have never turned to evil.

And yes, their friendship has been on the rocks pretty much since Season 3. Some of the nitpickers and haters really don't sound like they have been watching the show and keeping up at all. Which is fine, just realize most of your arguments don't stand anymore. Clark and the gang was in Metropolis quite a bit last season for various reasons. There were a couple great shows last season
Alicia's death scene was a surprise but was awesome in showing the humanity part of superman and controlling his rage. Though how they completely forgot about her the next episode was annoying
and it's really just all about him growing into Superman but yet being a weekly TV series which is not gonna satisfy everyone. Especially those wanting a guy in a suit fighting crime.
 
raYne said:
*Comic book readers/Superman know-it-alls feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken.
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Chloe was a character created for the show. After the show took off, DC said they were going to introduce her in the comic book series, but I don't know if that ever happened.
 
mightynine said:
Chloe was a character created for the show. After the show took off, DC said they were going to introduce her in the comic book series, but I don't know if that ever happened.
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Thanks! :)

So that further backs up my idea that she dies anyway heh.
 
TheOMan said:
I hate the fact that Chloe always ends up getting a raw deal. There was speculation a while back that Chloe was going to become Lois in the future for some reason or another and while it is a bit ridiculous, I still secretly hope it happens. What's more likely to happen though is that Chloe ends up dead since she knows his secret. :/ Lame.
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How would she "become" Lois in the future.. if there is already a Lois?
 
Zeo said:
How would she "become" Lois in the future.. if there is already a Lois?
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When Lois was introduced to Smallville, that theory got thrown out the window.

Allison Mack is so damn beautiful....
 
Missed last thursdays episode, they re-showing it any time? I know i've seen Smallville on ABC family before but it might just be previous seasons.
 
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