Smash Bros Brawl Dojo Official Update Thread: Goodbye, Cherry-don

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I had totally missed that ARATA IIYOSHI who has made music for Beatmania IIDX Gold and DistorteD would make music in Brawl.

And his both GOLD songs are awesome. So this can be something really cool coming up.
 
I told you guys there was no reason the site would be updated on a strict schedule.

Anyway, I'm guessing that he'll update each section of the site little by little, so no more character bios tonight. So that means he'll either show off some new items, or new game modes. Or, maybe... old game modes.

Whatever, as long as we keep getting pretty screenshots like these, I'm happy.:D

Edit: Plus, you can't really beat the new info on Mario.

He overwhelms opponents with magnificent jumping action!
 
WastingPenguins said:
I told you guys there was no reason the site would be updated on a strict schedule.

Anyway, I'm guessing that he'll update each section of the site little by little, so no more character bios tonight. So that means he'll either show off some new items, or new game modes. Or, maybe... old game modes.

Whatever, as long as we keep getting pretty screenshots like these, I'm happy.:D

Edit: Plus, you can't really beat the new info on Mario.


The better idea would be to just get some sleep and wait until the morning.
 
Has it been confirmed that you have to use the Classic Controller with SSBB? I still think it's a bit weak to release it on Wii but only for one of the axillary controllers, not the main one.

I had heard this rumor too: you use GameCube controllers for it. I wonder if that's true.
 
Wii too said:
Has it been confirmed that you have to use the Classic Controller with SSBB? I still think it's a bit weak to release it on Wii but only for one of the axillary controllers, not the main one.

I had heard this rumor too: you use GameCube controllers for it. I wonder if that's true.

Be at ease, Sakurai is developping it with the GameCube controller (and Classic Controller?) in mind. It certainly won't be waggle in the main game.
 
With Link being in his Twilight Princess incarnation, does that mean it's mostly likely that (if they're in) Zelda and Ganondorf will be too? I know they were all in their Ocarina of Time styles for Melee. If so, does that mean no more Shiek? In this new direction, I could see Ganondorf having sword attacks and Zelda having a sword attack and a light arrow attack. Ultimately, they both could have different movesets from the ones they had in Melee. I suppose it could be cool, but I'll miss Shiek.
 
Scoop-Li said:
With Link being in his Twilight Princess incarnation, does that mean it's mostly likely that (if they're in) Zelda and Ganondorf will be too? I know they were all in their Ocarina of Time styles for Melee. If so, does that mean no more Shiek? In this new direction, I could see Ganondorf having sword attacks and Zelda having a sword attack and a light arrow attack. Ultimately, they both could have different movesets from the ones they had in Melee. I suppose it could be cool, but I'll miss Shiek.

If you watch the second trailer, you'll see that Zero Suit Samus has inherited most of Sheik's moveset (well, at least the A moves).
 
D.Lo said:
So not. Samus and Mario looked far better in Prime and Sunshine, Samus in particular probabaly had multiple times more polygons.
Really? I always thought Mario looked rather assy in Sunshine*, especially when compared to his Melee model.

*If anyone can find a better capture of SMS Mario, feel free to post it.
 
Jirotrom said:
I love using Mario...hopefully he is top tier in this version.

I just want top tier to not be all about speed this time around. Fox, for example, needs to be nerfed hard with regards to power, or have his speed reduced, timers increased, something.

The upshot of playing in tournaments and against my roommate constantly for many years is that I know how to counter speed demons well (more accurately, as well as possible when dealing with top versus second tier) with say, Link, a tankish medium-slow character, but Fox's up smash kick is ridiculous - he shouldn't move as fast as he does and hit as hard as Bowser. Oh, and speaking of a character needing a massive buff. :lol
 
I just want there to be no tiers at all.
Edit: I'm liking the daily update thing. It gives me something to look forward to every morning.
 
Kafel said:
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WOW. THIS is a properly use of Wii's additional power.
 
Taxman said:
I just want there to be no tiers at all.

Wishful thinking, but I'd like that too. At best, I'm hoping for the tier difference to not be so pronounced.

As is, things heavily favor the speedsters, and the difference between the best (Fox) and the worst (Bowser) is not at all subtle.
 
JayDubya said:
Wishful thinking, but I'd like that too. At best, I'm hoping for the tier difference to not be so pronounced.

As is, things heavily favor the speedsters, and the difference between the best (Fox) and the worst (Bowser) is not at all subtle.
Also, please make Ness less nerfed this time. He's my favorite, but while I'll admit that he was overpowered in the original, they overcompensated in Melee.
 
About Ganondorf, make it be the Wind Waker's one. He's sooo awesome, and so fast, and so skilled at sword fighting, and so well designed.

TP Ganondorf is lame. I can't remember him hurting me when attacking me.
 
Any game that has serious competitive play is going to develop tiers if the characters are at all different. I think the important thing is that the difference not be so pronounced that the average person playing the game can tell that certain characters are overpowered (I'm looking at you Mortal Kombat.) I think Melee succeeded in that regard, and I expect that Brawl will as well.
 
John Harker said:
Mario's eyes freak me out. They are too lifeless or something.
Yeah, something is going horribly wrong with Mario's character design and it's making him look kinda shitty:

Ganondorf>Link said:
They're reduced the size of his features (eyes, nose, mustache) and increased the size of his head. It really makes him look semi-retarded.
 
Chemo said:
They're reduced the size of his features (eyes, nose, mustache) and increased the size of his head. It really makes him look semi-retarded.
You gotta be ****ing kidding me, right?
 
Man, does anyone remember when Melee came out and people were like

"OMG you can see the denim on Mario's overalls"
"THE EMBERS ON THE FIREBALL"
"OMGOMGOMG"

Even though I feel the game is finished, I'm sure the overall final look will be most impressive when we see the game in action.

At least they're not bullshots, lol
 
speedpop said:
You gotta be ****ing kidding me, right?
Uhh, if you look at the picture for ten seconds you can see exactly what the differences between the two designs are.

Way to be a complete dick over absolutely nothing.
 
Akinola said:
At least they're not bullshots, lol
When aren't Nintendo's.

Hence my hesitation in to do with anything involving with static Nintendo-produced media.

Chemo said:
Uhh, if you look at the picture for ten seconds you can see exactly what the differences between the two designs are.

Way to be a complete dick over absolutely nothing.
Not being a cock at all. Just stating that it seems unreasonable to throw out continuous amounts of tissue paper over the fact that Mario now has his mouth drawn on character.
 
Game looks very nice...yet, I hope the stages are more varied this time. I want more stages following the same path that "Hyrule Temple" layered on.

EDIT: Mario looks awesome. In any case, they improved him 200%, IMO.
 
speedpop said:
Not being a cock at all. Just stating that it seems unreasonable to throw out continuous amounts of tissue paper over the fact that Mario now has his mouth drawn on character.
No, you said, "You gotta be ****ing kidding me, right?" You did not say, "It seems unreasonable to throw out continuous amounts of tissue paper over the fact that Mario now has his mouth drawn on character."

If you're gonna be a dick, at least take credit for it when you're called out on it. I'm allowed to prefer the old design, and obviously I'm not alone as I'm not the only one who noticed the changes.

EktorPR said:
EDIT: Mario looks awesome. In any case, they improved him 200%, IMO.
And obviously other people like the changes, too! I'm glad that that's the case, I'm sure most people will be very happy with Mario's Brawl design.
 
I like Mario's design a little bit more this time around..
At the same time..
How many around 4' tall, brown haired, blue eyed ..italian guys are out there??
I mean..is an imaginary character after all..

This time he just looks more detailed, remember that the Smash characters are supposed to be what the character would look like IF they were "human", instead of figurines or dolls. Who knows what's the concept this time around (more figurines? dolls? blocks?).
 
Chemo said:
No, you said, "You gotta be ****ing kidding me, right?" You did not say, "It seems unreasonable to throw out continuous amounts of tissue paper over the fact that Mario now has his mouth drawn on character."

If you're gonna be a dick, at least take credit for it when you're called out on it. I'm allowed to prefer the old design, and obviously I'm not alone as I'm not the only one who noticed the changes.
I am taking credit for it. I think you're being a wuss about the design change (if indeed there is a huge one like you are throwing bombs about). It's not like his entire body shape has been changed that his head is now 3/4 the size of his body. You need to get over this slight change, as does everyone else who has complained about it before and henceforth.

****.
 
speedpop said:
I am taking credit for it. I think you're being a wuss about the design change (if indeed there is a huge one like you are throwing bombs about). It's not like his entire body shape has been changed that his head is now 3/4 the size of his body. You need to get over this slight change, as does everyone else who has complained about it before and henceforth.

****.
Hey. Man. Guess what. I am over it. I was over it before you replied to me the first time. I was merely commenting. Get off of me already.
 
Y2Kev said:
Wait, there are tiers in smash brothers? :\

No wonder I always lose. :(

You're saying it all wrong. Tiers can be your excuse!
"I lost because I was playing Young Link :("

That's the way you say it.
 
Firestorm said:
You're saying it all wrong. Tiers can be your excuse!
"I lost because I was playing Young Link :("

That's the way you say it.

I have friends that do crap like that, it gets annoying when they say they lost because they werent playing as a top tier character, then they never choose a top tier character to back up their talk.
 
Linkzg said:
I have friends that do crap like that, it gets annoying when they say they lost because they werent playing as a top tier character, then they never choose a top tier character to back up their talk.
If I'm in a crowd that talks a big talk, I usually switch up between an assload of characters...just so they know whats up.

If I'm beating them with everyone, then "tiers" are a shite excuse.

Tiers exist, however that doesn't mean someone can't be better then you with a lower tiered guy.
 
Hm.

I kinda remained sure that Snake would just be using Naked Snake's model from MGS3, except in his Shadow Moses Sneaking Suit, but now I'm not so sure. It could feasibly be improved. Snake's MGS3 model was great, but it could be improved a lot.
 
RubxQub said:
If I'm in a crowd that talks a big talk, I usually switch up between an assload of characters...just so they know whats up.

If I'm beating them with everyone, then "tiers" are a shite excuse.

Tiers exist, however that doesn't mean someone can't be better then you with a lower tiered guy.

Tiers reflect play at the highest level. Unless you and your friends are capable of holding your own at smash tournaments, the tiers don't really matter for you.
 
Gekkonidae said:
Tiers reflect play at the highest level. Unless you and your friends are capable of holding your own at smash tournaments, the tiers don't really matter for you.

And even at the highest levels, there are always a few really skilled people who play low-tier characters on purpose in an attempt to prove that tiers don't really matter.
 
Linkzg said:
I have friends that do crap like that, it gets annoying when they say they lost because they werent playing as a top tier character, then they never choose a top tier character to back up their talk.

I say it while kidding =p Although it IS actually part of the reason I guess. My friends say my Sheik is better than my Young Link and won't ever let me use Young Link during our little crew battles even though I've played YLink for years and picked up Sheik recently =(

Bastards. They make fun of YLink too.
YLink for top =( Make it happen Sakurai.
 
What do we reckon, something as fascinating as Fox and Pikachu profiles tomorrow?

I don't mind, I'm just happy we're going to get so many updates. It was similar before Melee, I swear I knew every move in the game before it came out, but it seemed like we weren't going to get such a cool website this time.

If only other Nintendo games were followed like this.
 
Mama Smurf said:
What do we reckon, something as fascinating as Fox and Pikachu profiles tomorrow?

I don't mind, I'm just happy we're going to get so many updates. It was similar before Melee, I swear I knew every move in the game before it came out, but it seemed like we weren't going to get such a cool website this time.

If only other Nintendo games were followed like this.
If it's character profiles, my guess would be Pikachu and Kirby as they were the first characters to be revealed along with Mario and Link.
However, it is interesting to note that Kirby has yet to appear in one of the new screenshots, along with Snake, Samus and Pit.
 
I think the best thing about the daily updates is that we're going to grow used to the little updates we've already seen every morning, Wario, Kirby, Angel Land stage, etc. when all of a sudden, just when we least expect it, Bam! Megaton. And in Japan time too.
 
EktorPR said:
I love these daily updates. Can't wait until a never-before-seen new stage and character are profiled. :D

liek sonic in green hill zone m i rite?
ya im rite.

Taxman said:
I just want there to be no tiers at all.
Edit: I'm liking the daily update thing. It gives me something to look forward to every morning.

You want every character to have the same moves, height, weight, etc.? That sounds boring.
 
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