So, Battlefield 6 requires Secure Boot to function. My sons PC has the option for Secureboot but....

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I have to go the route of converting the HD from Legacy to UEFI. Is there a good known way to do that without data loss (i.e. not having to reformat?). He's on Windows 11
 
It's possible. I've done it at work before. Always make a data backup before doing so though, as you never know


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MBR2GPT

Use MBR2GPT.EXE to convert a disk from the Master Boot Record (MBR) to the GUID Partition Table (GPT) partition style without modifying or deleting data on the disk.
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Slight update: i did it using option 4 in the windows club article, but i think option 1 will likely be your easiest bet

Double update: though im not sure how safe the data is in option 1? The article specifies without data loss, so it should be ok I think. When I did option 4 it didn't mess with data from what I remembered. But always always always backup data when doing something that invokes your data or windows install like this. Better safe than sorry.

As much as I shit on OneDrive, it does a decent enough job of backing stuff up for me.
 
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I found an article about convertng Windows 10 from Legacy to UFEI, but it says that UFEI is already a requirement for Windows 11 so I'm not sure how he has Windows 11 running in legacy .

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[ARTICLE]Convert an existing Windows 10 Installation from Legacy BIOS to UEFI - Microsoft Q&A

One of the critical system requirements for Windows 11 is a GPT Installation, which must be based on UEFI. This article explains how to convert an existing Windows 10 Installation from the Legacy MBR partition scheme to UEFI, using Microsoft's…
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Jinzo Prime said:
I found an article about convertng Windows 10 from Legacy to UFEI, but it says that UFEI is already a requirement for Windows 11 so I'm not sure how he has Windows 11 running in legacy .

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[ARTICLE]Convert an existing Windows 10 Installation from Legacy BIOS to UEFI - Microsoft Q&A

One of the critical system requirements for Windows 11 is a GPT Installation, which must be based on UEFI. This article explains how to convert an existing Windows 10 Installation from the Legacy MBR partition scheme to UEFI, using Microsoft's…
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I'm not surprised in all honesty. I've seen some weird things involving windows.
 
Same issue here. My early 2020 build cannot enable secure boot. Haven't hardly touched my PC this summer nor I have I tried switching that PC to Windows 11.

Tried opening the beta and also had this popup. Apparently 2042 was also updated to include this as well as some other titles according to a friend. Looking at building a whole new computer.
 
Divus said:
Same issue here. My early 2020 build cannot enable secure boot. Haven't hardly touched my PC this summer nor I have I tried switching that PC to Windows 11.

Tried opening the beta and also had this popup. Apparently 2042 was also updated to include this as well as some other titles according to a friend. Looking at building a whole new computer.
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Are you sure you cant enable it? Secure boot is much older then 2020
 
Divus said:
Same issue here. My early 2020 build cannot enable secure boot. Haven't hardly touched my PC this summer nor I have I tried switching that PC to Windows 11.

Tried opening the beta and also had this popup. Apparently 2042 was also updated to include this as well as some other titles according to a friend. Looking at building a whole new computer.
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I'm actually surprised on a 2020 pc, is it a low end mobo or something?
 
Is it just secure boot or TPM as well? FIFA has already required TPM for a few years so I'm not shocked that they're pushing it to other games too.

I'm still quite mad that they're pushing this. It will 100% be used to lock DRM to your physical system at some point. All in the name of 'security'.
 
BS like that is the reason I'm primary a console player.

Shader Compilation, DRM and hacks. After Activision banned my cod account with no reason (yes, I don't use hacks) I'm pretty much done with PC, at least for now.
 
LordCBH said:
It's possible. I've done it at work before. Always make a data backup before doing so though, as you never know


learn.microsoft.com

MBR2GPT

Use MBR2GPT.EXE to convert a disk from the Master Boot Record (MBR) to the GUID Partition Table (GPT) partition style without modifying or deleting data on the disk.
learn.microsoft.com

Slight update: i did it using option 4 in the windows club article, but i think option 1 will likely be your easiest bet

Double update: though im not sure how safe the data is in option 1? The article specifies without data loss, so it should be ok I think. When I did option 4 it didn't mess with data from what I remembered. But always always always backup data when doing something that invokes your data or windows install like this. Better safe than sorry.

As much as I shit on OneDrive, it does a decent enough job of backing stuff up for me.
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Hey thanks for this! Will give it a shot for sure
 
ValiantInstance said:
Any owner of a gaming pc should understand how to use the BIOS menu, even if it's just to enable XMP.
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Eh, it remains bullshit that it's a hard requirement and I'm ready to bet it will hardly do anything to prevent cheating, anyway.
But hey, luckily it's an option I was able to activate without any issues (so far).
 
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Ev1L AuRoN said:
BS like that is the reason I'm primary a console player.

Shader Compilation, DRM and hacks. After Activision banned my cod account with no reason (yes, I don't use hacks) I'm pretty much done with PC, at least for now.
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Hey! I got a COD ban for no reason too! It was Black Ops Cold War. I've whined about it a bit here but generally people assume you're lying. I was literally just half-assing BOCW mostly in FFA mode to level up guns for Warzone with like a 1.2 k/d. And I got permed. Argued with their Indian tech support for months (their appeal button was literally broken for said months, underscoring just how little recourse you have).

What's funny is that I played on XIM for a solid decade or so in COD on Xbox, which many people would have wanted me to be banned over. The second PC crossplay went live and I could still play with my friends I switched 100% to PC for COD. And then I eat a permaban for doing absolutely nothing anyone could object to.

Anyway, what game did they ban you on? Was it somehow your entire COD account? My Warzone and other games were still fine, but on principle I completely dropped COD and stopped doing business with them. I'm certainly not going to drop the PC platform over it. I played a few hours of the BO6 beta but that's about it.
 
Jinzo Prime said:
I found an article about convertng Windows 10 from Legacy to UFEI, but it says that UFEI is already a requirement for Windows 11 so I'm not sure how he has Windows 11 running in legacy .

learn.microsoft.com

[ARTICLE]Convert an existing Windows 10 Installation from Legacy BIOS to UEFI - Microsoft Q&A

One of the critical system requirements for Windows 11 is a GPT Installation, which must be based on UEFI. This article explains how to convert an existing Windows 10 Installation from the Legacy MBR partition scheme to UEFI, using Microsoft's…
learn.microsoft.com
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You can bypass the UEFI requirement during install. But as this requires a bit of trickery, I'm not sure this was done on OPs computer.
 
ValiantInstance said:
Any owner of a gaming pc should understand how to use the BIOS menu, even if it's just to enable XMP.
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Last time I browsed BIOS was when I had Windows XP and it's only because there was some hardware conflict.

Someone wants to extract the most from their rig? Sure. But for normal use? Nope, relying on default settings should be enough, especially if there's a big risk of breaking something if you're not careful enough. I understand the need to fight mp cheaters, but it's not the way to go.
 
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Ironbunny said:
Are you sure you cant enable it? Secure boot is much older then 2020
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Yep, I have it in my 2019 mobo since day 1. In one of the bios updates they made it more visible in the menu.

xrnzaaas said:
Having to change your BIOS settings just to run the game... have we backtracked and ended up before the era of 'plug & play'?
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This should be enabled anyway, it's a requirement for windows 11 (install).

My mobo has it "on" in default settings and I'm sure many more ale like this as well.
 
xrnzaaas said:
Last time I browsed BIOS was when I had Windows XP and it's only because there was some hardware conflict.

Someone wants to extract the most from their rig? Sure. But for normal use? Nope, relying on default settings should be enough, especially if there's a big risk of breaking something if you're not careful enough. I understand the need to fight mp cheaters, but it's not the way to go.
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The BIOS isn't just for extracting the most from your PC. If anything goes wrong with Windows, or you want to update or reinstall it then you need to use it to boot from the correct storage device.

Also it's not hard to follow a Youtube video for something that takes 30 seconds.
 
xrnzaaas said:
Last time I browsed BIOS was when I had Windows XP and it's only because there was some hardware conflict.

Someone wants to extract the most from their rig? Sure. But for normal use? Nope, relying on default settings should be enough, especially if there's a big risk of breaking something if you're not careful enough. I understand the need to fight mp cheaters, but it's not the way to go.
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I'm a bit confused. If you built your PC then you kind of need to go into BIOS as the other dude said, just to hit the XMP button if nothing else.

If you got a prebuilt and it's not meeting the requirements for BF6 then I guess talk to support and get instructions for enabling Secure Boot if you're that scared of general instructions.
 
That's a dealbreaker for me as it eliminates playing on Linux. Or does it?

But then again, I wasn't going to buy it either way,

So is it really a dealbreaker?
 
ByWatterson said:
We console peasants win again
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As someone who didn't even know about this being a thing as I don't really play multiplayer game all that much it's been fascinating to read up on it. It was enabled on my machine but not active, whatever that means, even though it should be on from what I'm reading when you use Win 11. All I had to do was turn it off for real, install some keys and activate it again. Took only a few seconds. But apparently, so much can go wrong with this as a lot of different things need to be in place for this to work. A lot of it depends on your specific parts and mobo as well. You gotta make sure that all your drives are GPT mode, that your BIOS is in UEFI only mode, that no legacy/CSM stuff turned on, that your drivers are up to date, TPM 2.0 is enabled, PTT for intel or fTPM for AMD is turned on and that you have Bitlocker turned off (or have your keys saved somewhere).

Depending on the person and their setup this can be a hassle. Been reading a lot on reddit and it ranges from people like me that are done in 5 seconds to people that need hours and to people bricking their PCs lmao. It's crazy. I guess this is a new standard in multplayer games though.
 
xrnzaaas said:
Having to change your BIOS settings just to run the game... have we backtracked and ended up before the era of 'plug & play'?
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If this means less cheaters, no problem.

ByWatterson said:
We console peasants win again
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It's free to turn on secure boot, unlike the online on consoles. 🤷‍♂️

ChoosableOne said:
Why are they doing this? First Fifa, than this.
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2042 already does this.

Ev1L AuRoN said:
BS like that is the reason I'm primary a console player.

Shader Compilation, DRM and hacks. After Activision banned my cod account with no reason (yes, I don't use hacks) I'm pretty much done with PC, at least for now.
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Go pay for online to still have to deal with XIM + aim assist users, potato IQ/performances, DRM "on disc/console itself"...
 
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Kurotri said:
As someone who didn't even know about this being a thing as I don't really play multiplayer game all that much it's been fascinating to read up on it. It was enabled on my machine but not active, whatever that means, even though it should be on from what I'm reading when you use Win 11. All I had to do was turn it off for real, install some keys and activate it again. Took only a few seconds. But apparently, so much can go wrong with this as a lot of different things need to be in place for this to work. A lot of it depends on your specific parts and mobo as well. You gotta make sure that all your drives are GPT mode, that your BIOS is in UEFI only mode, that no legacy/CSM stuff turned on, that your drivers are up to date, TPM 2.0 is enabled, PTT for intel or fTPM for AMD is turned on and that you have Bitlocker turned off (or have your keys saved somewhere).

Depending on the person and their setup this can be a hassle. Been reading a lot on reddit and it ranges from people like me that are done in 5 seconds to people that need hours and to people bricking their PCs lmao. It's crazy. I guess this is a new standard in multplayer games though.
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100% a hassle for some!
 
Kurotri said:
As someone who didn't even know about this being a thing as I don't really play multiplayer game all that much it's been fascinating to read up on it. It was enabled on my machine but not active, whatever that means, even though it should be on from what I'm reading when you use Win 11. All I had to do was turn it off for real, install some keys and activate it again. Took only a few seconds. But apparently, so much can go wrong with this as a lot of different things need to be in place for this to work. A lot of it depends on your specific parts and mobo as well. You gotta make sure that all your drives are GPT mode, that your BIOS is in UEFI only mode, that no legacy/CSM stuff turned on, that your drivers are up to date, TPM 2.0 is enabled, PTT for intel or fTPM for AMD is turned on and that you have Bitlocker turned off (or have your keys saved somewhere).

Depending on the person and their setup this can be a hassle. Been reading a lot on reddit and it ranges from people like me that are done in 5 seconds to people that need hours and to people bricking their PCs lmao. It's crazy. I guess this is a new standard in multplayer games though.
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GPT only needed for the drive with the boot/OS. UEFI and legacy also works, CSM not needed as needs to be off for Rebar to work, updated drivers have nothing to do with this.
 
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People will complain about how hard or easy is to activate the secure boot, but my main question is, why?

This will be beat by hackers anyways just like the super kernel secure options, and that not even counting other alternatives of cheating like people that had external hardware to get info (tho, this doesnt affect BF6 that much).
 
Im confused... Im too dumb for this. Does every PC gamer have to do this?

Ive been PC gaming my whole life I've never heard of this lol.

I did a quick system info check and it said secure boot was enabled, but ive never actively turned it on myself. Im assuming its just default on.

I guess Im good to go?
 
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Thank you for this thread.. i would have tried to turn it on friday and got royally frustrated. got it and the frustration done in advance..

im generally a dumbass and terrible at this kinda shit. Chatgpt walked me through how to check, and then how to convert and turn it on.
 
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