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[Docpan]

When I first purchased the DS (launch day), I almost immediately regretted it. I thought that this was nothing more than a gimmick system that would get stomped out overnight by the PSP.

Shortly after I got a PSP, and sold off the DS. Long story short, PSP was all hype. I mean, it was cool and all, and it had so many features, but there were no games. Months after I had got it, the only triple game was Lumines, and there was nothing on the horizon. And I'm sorry, but why would i pay 25 dollars for a UMD movie when i can buy the FULL DVD for five dollars less? So I sold it off, and have no regrets. Maybe I'll pick it up again someday when it'll be more to me than a paperweight.

With Nintendo's recent wi-fi announcement, coupled with the DS' amazing lineup of games coming out/already out, I decided to take the plunge once more and picked up another DS today.

Let me tell you... I think so much more highly of this system now. I got Castlevania DS along with it and it's awesome. I'll probably pick up advance wars DS within the next few days.... and most importantly, Im totally pumped for Animal Crossing DS, which mark my words will be absolutely amazing with its wi-fi features.

To be honest, I think what first put me off to the DS was that horrible Mario64 port. The controls just didnt feel right to me no matter what setting I used, and after that I just didn't give anything else a try.

DS- nice to have you back

 

[Tarazet]

I am a happy PSP early adopter, but I have to admit the DS is looking a lot more viable to me now than it did even a month ago. But I'm going to stay the course I started, because the RPGs are so close I can smell them...

 

[krypt0nian]

They are GBA games but definintely pick up the Fire Emblems if you don't already have them, and the ADvance Wars choice is a good one.

 

[Dynamite Shikoku]

welcome back!

 

[AndoCalrissian]

Apart from no analog, Mario 64 DS is an improvement in every single way. The no analog argument could have been improved had they not set walk as the default speed when playing with the Dpad. Regardless, the textures were improved (and toned down), as were the models, and frame rate.

I would recommend picking up Kirby if you are looking for another awesome DS-only experience. I'd say it's one of the most innovatitve games I've played in the last five years.

 

[Ironclad]

Nice job on picking it up again, and good move on picking up DoS, easily one of the best titles one the handheld, if not the best.

Might I recommend picking up Advance Wars DS, Kirby Canvas Curse and Phoenix Wright, which comes out next week. Meteos is a good choice as well. You should look into Lost in Blue, after reading the impressions here, I got pretty exicted for the game. I'll have to pick it up soon.

 

[Gaia Theory]

I am a happy PSP early adopter, but I have to admit the DS is looking a lot more viable to me now than it did even a month ago. But I'm going to stay the course I started, because the RPGs are so close I can smell them...

That's because they are just on the OTHER SIDE of the pasture. I mean, you do realize just how many RPGs have been announced for the DS right? It is a substantial list.

Currently, if you want RPGs on a handheld - you've got to have a GBA and/or DS.

 

[BorkBork]

Lesson: Stop falling for the hype until you know it's justified.

 

[Tarazet]

That's because they are just on the OTHER SIDE of the pasture. I mean, you do realize just how many RPGs have been announced for the DS right? It is a substantial list.

So is the PSP's. Legend of Heroes, PoPoLoCrois, Ys Ark of Napishtim, Kingdom of Paradise, Princess Crown, Tales of Eternia.. they will be mine, every last one of them.

Currently, if you want RPGs on a handheld - you've got to have a GBA and/or DS.

GBA, yes. DS, we'll see. If there are a lot of games like Lunar: Dragon Song I'll be happy with what I've chosen.

 

[Juice]

That's because they are just on the OTHER SIDE of the pasture. I mean, you do realize just how many RPGs have been announced for the DS right? It is a substantial list.

Currently, if you want RPGs on a handheld - you've got to have a GBA and/or DS.

That's exactly what I thought when I read his comment. "What PSP RPGs?" The only two I can think of that I'd want to play are Harvest Moon: Innocent Mission and the FFVII spinoff. And the former might not even be localized.

DS, on the other hand... that's so many RPGs I'd probably be better off not owning the system. For my wallet's sake.

And to the OP: I can't stand when people are constantly buying and selling games and systems like one's own collection is some sort of faux stock market. Games and systems, like cars, almost always depreciate with time; ergo, buying, selling, and buying the same system is probably a surefire way to lose money.

If you buy a system, just hold onto it. It's bound to have a killer app that'll make you regret selling it sooner or later.

 

[mutsu]

Nice to have you back to the party. We celebrate easter here in Japan almost every week so join in the fun.

So is the PSP's. Legend of Heroes, PoPoLoCrois, Ys Ark of Napishtim, Kingdom of Paradise, Princess Crown, Tales of Eternia, Daisenryaku.. they will be mine, every last one of them.

Mind you most of these are ports.... and Daisenryaku is an RPG? What has this world changed into?

 

[Tarazet]

Mind you most of these are ports.... and Daisenryaku is an RPG? What has this world changed into?

I edited my post..

Yes, most of those are ports. Princess Crown is the major highlight, though, because it has never had a US release before. Plus, it's being published by Atlus.

 

[Soul4ger]

So is the PSP's. Legend of Heroes, PoPoLoCrois, Ys Ark of Napishtim, Kingdom of Paradise, Princess Crown, Tales of Eternia.. they will be mine, every last one of them.

Are you importing Princess Crown and Tales of Eternia? 'Cause last I checked, neither was coming out here. And if you're down on Lunar: Dragon Song, but you're looking forward to the PSP port of PoPoLoCrois, well, God bless.

 

[Tarazet]

Are you importing Princess Crown and Tales of Eternia? 'Cause last I checked, neither was coming out here. And if you're down on Lunar: Dragon Song, but you're looking forward to the PSP port of PoPoLoCrois, well, God bless.

Any RPG that gets translated into English gets my business, even if I have to import it from Hong Kong.

 

[Mac the KNife]

So... I re-bought the DS

:lol

I'm just the opposite, just sold my second on off yesterday.


But only because I need the $$$. I'll pick it back up after the inevitable redesign.

 

[Docpan]

Oh by the way, would you guys recommend Jump Superstars?

It looks really cool, but I'm afraid that I'll have difficulty playing since it is an import.
Can someone who owns it give me some impressions?

I basically want to know of it's worth my time/money to import it. If not, I'll pick up Trauma Center instead.

 

[Juice]

I edited my post..

Yes, most of those are ports. Princess Crown is the major highlight, though, because it has never had a US release before. Plus, it's being published by Atlus.

God bless the poor souls at Atlus.

That company must not be able to afford game prints in excess of 50 copies, but I found my copy of Tactics Ogre for GBA and thanks to them I was able to revel in its badassery.

 

[Scott]

you do realize just how many RPGs have been announced for the DS right?

Don't know about him, but I do! Around 55 (give or take) announced for DS, and around 40 (give or take) announced for PSP.

 

[Scrow]

I'll pick it back up after the inevitable redesign.

*nods

expect it in about 1 year

 

[ikalugar]

I imported Jump Superstars, its a great game to import, very straightforward.

 

[Slurpy]

I also bought the PSP- had it for 2 weeks before waking up and returning the thing. It was nice- but not $350 nice. After getting tired of throwing short videos and screwing around with the thing, I realized there was pretty much no content yet.

 

[mutsu]

*nods

expect it in about 1 year

I'll stick with my original launch DS and play Mario Kart DS on it for more than 1 year before you get your redesign k thx bye

 

[Scrow]

uh...no problem... see ya?

 

[Gaia Theory]

I'd post a list of DS RPGs vs PSP rpgs, but the last time I did that I got banned.

So... I think that I'll just name a few DS RPGs that make me really happy to own a DS:

1)Children of Mana – Square Enix - new title/old ip:

It looks a lot like SD3, which is considered one of the best in the series. Can't wait!

2)FF 3(d) – Square Enix - port/old ip/update from 2d to 3d:

This game looks beautiful. Again, FF 3 is considered to be one of the best of the old-school FFs! This is a must have RPG if I have ever seen one.

3)FFCC – Square Enix - likely new title/old ip:

I loved FFCC on GC as a single player and multiplayer game. The thought of FFCC DS online makes me giddy!

4)ASH – Mistwalker - new title/new ip:

Sakaguchi directing again after a hiatus of about 10years? Hell yes! I'm still wondering what he means by Simulation RPG - this could mean Strategy RPG, or could possible refer to game elements similar to Harvest Moon. I'm leaning towards Strategy RPG - yum! Graphics could be good, but early screens are hard to make out.

5)Iron Feather – Konami - new title/new ip:

Looks good, want to see more.

6)Vandal Hearts DS – Konami –new title/old ip:

This could just be a port, but it could be a brand new entry in the series.

7)Baten Kaitos DS – Namco - new title/old ip:

The first game on GC was beautiful, yet could use some tweaking on the gameplay side of things. Hopefully Baten Kaitos II for GC addresses some of them. I’m curious to see how this game translates to DS!

8)Xenosaga I & II – Namco – old title/new ip:

I absolutely love the idea of remaking Xenosaga I & II from 3D into 2D. This game looks great! Namco is delivering a version of their epic that I will actually play.

9)Tao - Konami - new title/new ip:

It sounds like this one needs some work, but it sounds like it could be interesting.

10)Contact – Marvelous/Grasshopper – new title/new ip:

The creator of Killer 7 creates this weird RPG? Some screens seem to indicate very Earthbound style graphics! Count me in!

11)Mario & Luigi Partners in Time – Nintendo – sequel/old ip:

While I got tired of having to dodge enemies that were WAY to easy to bother with in the first game, I really enjoyed it overall. I like the idea of baby Mario & Luigi tagging along for the adventure.

12)Legend of Zelda DS – Nintendo - new title/old ip:

I’m a Zelda whore. Period. The idea of this DS title featuring a new viewpoint (as has been suggested in a recent interview), has me very intrigued.

13)Magical Vacation II – Brownie Brown – sequel/old ip:

I want this one to come to North America. PLEASE! This is what Lunar DS SHOULD have looked like.

14)Ys Strategy – Falcom - new title/old ip:

I will never forget my younger days playing the Ys games on SNES. I can’t wait to see this one!

15)Slime MoriMori DS – sequel/old ip:

I’ve heard these are not only great RPGs, but are pretty funny too!

16)Lost Magic – Taito (now part of Square Enix) – new title/new ip:

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It seems like every RPG has you ‘drawing’ your magic spells, but this one has a unique charm to it (probably due to Studio Ghibli’s involvement).

17)Tales DS – Namco – new title/old ip:

This is a sometimes very underrated series. I personally love it, and I’m still waiting for a proper English release of Phantasia.

In all honesty, the amount of sequels to fan favorite RPGs and the number of completely original IPs has me VERY EXCITED. These are just a few of the RPG titles I am really looking forward to. Hope you enjoyed the pictorial!

[note: Where actual DS game screens/art could not be found, I have placed random art from the series in its stead.]

 

[Stryder]

Welcome back to the winning team.

 

[mutsu]

I'd post a list of DS RPGs vs PSP rpgs, but the last time I did that I got banned.

So... I think that I'll just name a few DS RPGs that make me really happy to own a DS:

Nice post. I am personally anticipating most of those.

I personally would love Dragon Quest Monsters too which is also in the making.

 

[Scrow]

why have you got zelda in a list of RPGs?

 

[mutsu]

I think over the years the term "RPG" has been used a bit too widely... back in the good old days it's just the turn-based RPG which are labelled as "RPGs".

Slime Mori Mori Dragon Quest 2 is definitely not one in that list, haha.

Zelda... more of an Action Adventure title I guess, but you can argue you are "Role-playing" Link I guess.

 

[Scott]

I'm still wondering what he means by Simulation RPG

I believe they use the term "Simulation RPG," as opposed to "Strategy" or "Tactics," to describe the SRPG genre in Japan.

15)Slime MoriMori DS – sequel/old ip:

I’ve heard these are not only great RPGs, but are pretty funny too!

Action/Adventure (I like to nitpick ), but yeah, the original was really fun.

why have you got zelda in a list of RPGs?

Don't sound too surprised. It's a very common mix-up.

 

[Gaia Theory]

Games listed as RPGs, are, of course, open to subjectivity.

That said, there are various other ways to define an RPG:

Strategy RPG
Simulation RPG
Adventure RPG

Certainly, I am aware of the 'Zelda as RPG' debate, but I have always (personally) considered it an Adventure RPG, so... shoot me if you disagree. It's all good.

 

[Deku]

Games listed as RPGs, are, of course, open to subjectivity.

That said, there are various other ways to define an RPG:

Strategy RPG
Simulation RPG
Adventure RPG

Certainly, I am aware of the 'Zelda as RPG' debate, but I have always (personally) considered it an Adventure RPG, so... shoot me if you disagree. It's all good.

In that case, this game needs to be put in as well.

 

[Scott]

I think over the years the term "RPG" has been used a bit too widely... back in the good old days it's just the turn-based RPG which are labelled as "RPGs".

Not quite.

The term "Role Playing Game" has never had any direct ties to any combat style within the games, and instead was more a descriptor meant to harness the Pen & Paper approach of the players acting out the roles of their characters. Unfortunately, it hasn't been a very apt descriptor since the moment it was first used, as it's far, far too vague and encompasses far too many genres (especially today, where simple platformers are becoming story driven).

But despite this, people still use it quite often (even you did just a moment ago). "You play the role of the character, so it's an RPG!" When people wake up and realize that pertains to 90% of videogames ever made, and isn't an apt descriptor in any way, shape, or form, is a day that humanity will become just a little bit better off. [/melodrama]

Games listed as RPGs, are, of course, open to subjectivity.

I'd agree, if we were discussing hybrids. Hybrids are the only tricky portion of the genre, as it's debatable just how strong the RPG side of each title is, and where you drawn the line.

With your typical RPG, however, it's pretty cut & dry. Unfortunately, people seem to want to argue all sorts of things (like "Collecting heart containers is a form of leveling up!"), despite there being multiple contradictions (often within the Action/Adventure genre) that disprove such claims... They sure stick to their guns, though, which is likely why I've been involved in this "debate" (if you can call it that) dozens (upon dozens, upon...) of times over the years. Oy.

That said, I really don't want to derail this thread anymore, so feel free to hit me up via PM if you want to continue this, or just chew me out for being wrong or something.

 

[Red Scarlet]

Uh oh, it's 'that' debate.

Gaia..is that Mega Man or Mega..Woman in your av?

It looks like Mega Man..then you see the ponytail and the 'underwear'.
It looks like Mega 'Woman'...then you see the face and it looks like Mega Man..with a ponytail.

!??!?

 

[Deku]

Uh oh, it's 'that' debate.

Gaia..is that Mega Man or Mega..Woman in your av?

Well, I'd like to think its a woman, but it could be mega boy who had a sex change.

 

[Scott]

Uh oh, it's 'that' debate.

Yup, and the groans can be heard for miles!

It's not so bad if it's kept to PM or something, I'm cool with that. I don't plan on baby-sitting a 5-page argument, though, so I'll bail out if somebody comes in calling me a twat and saying "Gran Turismo is an RPG!" like what normally happens. So yeah, don't do that!

 

[TerryLee81]

Does anyone already have one of the new colours in Europe? The ones bundled with Nintendogs...

Any chance that they have a better screen, like the GBA?

 

[DIrtyWeasel]

I switched over to DS too. The games recently announced look great and I need to catch up on all the GBA games I missed out on.

I got a PSP at launch. It's a good system and I was shocked at how powerful it is, it exceeded my expectations... but there aren't enough games for it that interest me. Lumines and racers [Wipeout, Ridge Racer, Burnout] were the only games I liked and the PSP wasn't worth keeping anymore just to play GTA:LCS.

So now I have a DS... the top screen had one pixel that would only show bright blue when the screen displayed dark coloration, sent it to Nintendo to replace without a problem.
Sony wouldn't fix my PSP that had 3 dead pixels. =(

Oh... and Nintendo sent me a free replacement thrumbstrap, best customer service ever.

 

[Baron Aloha]

I bought a PSP at launch too and I have been completely satisfied with it.

I had originally planned on skipping the regular DS and waiting for a redesigned version or the next "Gameboy" but there have been too many games announced for the DS for me to ignore it any longer. I still have some reservations though. The system hasn't been selling that well in the US (and Europe?) compared to the PSP. If the DS can manage to survive/thrive this holiday season against GTA:LCS then I will buy one. And by survive I mean turn things around and outsell the PSP.

 

[Gaia Theory]

Uh oh, it's 'that' debate.

Gaia..is that Mega Man or Mega..Woman in your av?

It looks like Mega Man..then you see the ponytail and the 'underwear'.
It looks like Mega 'Woman'...then you see the face and it looks like Mega Man..with a ponytail.

!??!?

The artist that created my avatar claims it to be Mega'girl'.

 

[Scrow]

Certainly, I am aware of the 'Zelda as RPG' debate, but I have always (personally) considered it an Adventure RPG, so... shoot me if you disagree. It's all good.

can you supply the gun and ammo? I'm able to meet anytime. ;P

 

[Sweedishrodeo]

since when was super mario 64 ds a bad port? obviously there was no way they were improving it. its fun to tool aound with at least.

 

[JavyOO7]

When I first purchased the DS (launch day), I almost immediately regretted it. I thought that this was nothing more than a gimmick system that would get stomped out overnight by the PSP.

Shortly after I got a PSP, and sold off the DS. Long story short, PSP was all hype. I mean, it was cool and all, and it had so many features, but there were no games. Months after I had got it, the only triple game was Lumines, and there was nothing on the horizon. And I'm sorry, but why would i pay 25 dollars for a UMD movie when i can buy the FULL DVD for five dollars less? So I sold it off, and have no regrets. Maybe I'll pick it up again someday when it'll be more to me than a paperweight.

With Nintendo's recent wi-fi announcement, coupled with the DS' amazing lineup of games coming out/already out, I decided to take the plunge once more and picked up another DS today.

Let me tell you... I think so much more highly of this system now. I got Castlevania DS along with it and it's awesome. I'll probably pick up advance wars DS within the next few days.... and most importantly, Im totally pumped for Animal Crossing DS, which mark my words will be absolutely amazing with its wi-fi features.

To be honest, I think what first put me off to the DS was that horrible Mario64 port. The controls just didnt feel right to me no matter what setting I used, and after that I just didn't give anything else a try.

DS- nice to have you back

If you want to have the best handheld game of the year, I'd suggest you buy Ouendan, mang.

 

[JavyOO7]

since when was super mario 64 ds a bad port? obviously there was no way they were improving it. its fun to tool aound with at least.

All that was needed was an analog stick, and all is good in the world.

 

[belgurdo]

There's absolutely nothing wrong with Mario 64 DS. It's a damn good port.

All that was needed was an analog stick, and then I'd have no complaints about the game and the DS hardware in general. The d-pad is a fine substitute but it's not as perfect as with the joystick.

So there's nothing wrong with it, yet there's something wrong with it...

 

[JavyOO7]

Of course!

 

[Meier]

I was one of the ones who bought into the PSP hype and got it at launch day (well, the day after) and sold it about a month and a half later after I hadnt touched it in weeks. I don't regret it one bit to be honest as all the games for it are basically console games that I'd rather play on a TV (I dont really have a place to game portably outside the home).

I havent bought a DS yet and I likely wont until it's $100, and/or bundled around this Christmas, but it's the clearly superior system I think it's easy to see.

 

[Mashing]

I am a happy PSP early adopter, but I have to admit the DS is looking a lot more viable to me now than it did even a month ago. But I'm going to stay the course I started, because the RPGs are so close I can smell them...

If you like RPGs... I feel the DS is a must own system... maybe not for the RPGs it has now, but for the ones that are coming. Then again it's quite possible a vast majority of those will stay in Japan.

Argh, how frustrating it is to be a big rpg fan in the states.

 

[Tarazet]

If you like RPGs... I feel the DS is a must own system... maybe not for the RPGs it has now, but for the ones that are coming. Then again it's quite possible a vast majority of those will stay in Japan.

Argh, how frustrating it is to be a big rpg fan in the states.

I do see the issue. That's why I'm seriously considering getting a DS anyway, maybe as soon as today. It depends on how much money I can milk out of Best Buy by trading in used games... but it already looks like I can probably get the system for a virtual $40 or even less. The question is whether I want to put the money towards a new system when I already have every other viable system out there...

 

[NWO]

I still have some reservations though. The system hasn't been selling that well in the US (and Europe?) compared to the PSP. If the DS can manage to survive/thrive this holiday season against GTA:LCS then I will buy one. And by survive I mean turn things around and outsell the PSP.

God your a dumbass if your going to determine buying a handheld or not if it outsells the competition. What the hell kind of logic is that?

And the system that "hasn't been selling that well" is still ahead of the PSP in America, Japan, and Europe. And either GAF was too quick to jump on the DS getting destroyed in Europe by the PSP or a shortage has happened (which I don't get how since they delayed it by 8 months for Europe) because the first week in the UK the PSP sold 185,000 but in the following 3 weeks its just managed 65,000. The UK is the biggest market in Europe BTW.

 

[TurtleSnatcher]

God your a dumbass if your going to determine buying a handheld or not if it outsells the competition. What the hell kind of logic is that?

And the system that "hasn't been selling that well" is still ahead of the PSP in America, Japan, and Europe. And either GAF was too quick to jump on the DS getting destroyed in Europe by the PSP or a shortage has happened (which I don't get how since they delayed it by 8 months for Europe) because the first week in the UK the PSP sold 185,000 but in the following 3 weeks its just managed 65,000. The UK is the biggest market in Europe BTW.

Bandwagon Chaser =[

I bet when football teams win the superbowl he drops all his fangear stuff from the previous year and buys the new champs stuff and does it again the next year :lol