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So I was kicked out of High School... Big Deal
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Dude, is it even too late for you to sue them? For all the shit people sue for and win these days, I'd think you would have a pretty good shot. Your father aside, you totally pulled down your pants, bent over and let them fuck you up the ass over this. It truly, without exaggeration, is one of the most ridiculous school-related stories I've ever heard.
Does anyone with any legal knowledge know if it would be too late to sue in this situation? I'd at least talk to a lawyer and see what you could do....maybe there would be some big money in this, and ANYTHING to bring this "Zero Tolerence" bullshit to public light is good.
Does anyone with any legal knowledge know if it would be too late to sue in this situation? I'd at least talk to a lawyer and see what you could do....maybe there would be some big money in this, and ANYTHING to bring this "Zero Tolerence" bullshit to public light is good.
fennec fox
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Dude, he got his damn GED. What's the point now?
Of course, my opinion of olimario is such that I believe he's not giving us the full story since that would tarnish the "misunderstood suburban genius" image he's going for on the boards.
Of course, my opinion of olimario is such that I believe he's not giving us the full story since that would tarnish the "misunderstood suburban genius" image he's going for on the boards.
max_cool said:
While arbitrartion boards may be different, lawsuits do not generally work on the principle of 'beyond a shadow of a doubt.' The way it's put is 'on a balance of probability.' Really the burdain of proof would be equally on him as them, unless it went to some kind of arbitration board.
However, I highly doubt the thing you signed at the beginning of the year was a legally binding contract. Unless you gave them something and they gave you something. An agreement requires an exchange.
But IANAL.
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tenchir said:
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olimario said:
an elective?? you got kicked out of school your senior year because of an elective?
how were you doing in your other classes? if you were a bad student .. and then this happened.. i could see it as the last straw. but if you were a good - decent student.. this whole situation was pretty retarded.
So...why don't you go back next year and get your diploma? And if you join the military, good luck with having the army as your only choice 
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That zero policy shit is stupid. Luckily I was on the 504 program all the way since 3rd grade for my ADHD back in school. Heh. I got away with a lot of shit.
.That zero policy shit is stupid. Luckily I was on the 504 program all the way since 3rd grade for my ADHD back in school. Heh. I got away with a lot of shit.
Mermandala
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i just said "misunderstood suburban genius" really fast and it came out "masterbation"!
BigJonsson
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They didn't realize that you had shown up for your other classes, you'd think they would just ask you if you wanted to drop the class
andthebeatgoeson
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olimario said:
I agree. Zero Tolerance is slang for 'I didn't do to well in college, and I like kids but I hate having to critically think about issues.' Teachers are on the whole, good but once they become administrators, they have absolutely no fuckin clue how their decisions impact people. I get the idea that most school administrators look at their decisions as a numbers game. IE. most students do well and will never have a problem and the other 15% can just be fucked over and they won't make too much problem about it.
Exactly where in the real world does Zero Tolerance function adequately? Many instances of Zero Tolerance pop up on the news radar from time to time and you have to slap yourself in the head when some kid gets suspended for having tylenol in school. What these policies really do is try to remove all aspects of responsiblilty from the administrator, so they don't have to deal with life. It's frustrating that I'll probably have to raise my kids in an environment where idiots are teaching them and making no effort to deal with life but are more interested in covering their ass.
This story is either so much BS or Oli is one dumbass motherfucker who let himself get punked out of an education. Point 1. The story about the counciler notifing you is BS. So she found out about the error and instead of fixing it, she sent you a letter telling you about it, BS. So what where you supposed to do split yourself into 2 parts and take both classes at the same time. Assuming you were attending the other class and you can prove it with work and or teach and student witnesses then you can not be said to have been skiping. Point 3 As far as the policy you signed you didn't willfully break it. The school screwed up and you had no knowledge of the goof and even if you did it wouldn't have been on you to fix it but the school. What you are saying happened is the same as if a guy goes to work at a company and they give you a safty book that tells you the right way and wrong way to do things. As your working another guy does something against the safty rules and you get injured , yet they claim that since you read and signed the rules when you were first emplyed you can't sue. Point 4 you had a pretty good case and probably would have been resolved within a week to months time with you being allowed back in school. I take it from you attitude about it though that you didn't want to go to school so it worked out fine for you in the end or so you think. A GED is not the same as a HS diploma and when you get out into the real world you will fine out the real hard way.
olimario said:
What exactly makes you think you can even handle junior college when you weren't responsible enough to even graduate from high school?
Something about this story definitely stinks. I personally never had to take the GED because I wasn't a total retard (IOW I graduated from high school), but the two people I know who took the GED did relatively well on it and they both failed out of high school. One of them is 28 and still works at EB.
border said:
Actually, if you have a GED and a college degree, the GED tends to look better to HR people. I remember a couple of years ago there was a nice article in the Post that a lot of home school kids were doing well because HR people in the area see that if a candidate has a GED and a college degree, they likely worked harder for their education (depending on the college degree, of course). I would say that a GED is harder to get than a diploma, as well.
Now, having no college degree at all and just a GED is not a very good thing.
fennec fox
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No, actually, I'm willing to believe that a GED (especially a GED as high as oli sez his is) is just fine for getting into most any college. Regardless I do agree with oli that once you do achieve something outside of high school, then your high school career begins to matter less and less.
Coming from a background of hardship and working at a young age then getting your GED and making your way through college looks great to an employer.
Getting kicked out of high school and being left with no choice but to earn a GED will never look good. But it's not the end of the world.
Getting kicked out of high school and being left with no choice but to earn a GED will never look good. But it's not the end of the world.
Ok... just a note from a guy who works in a school district...
I find Olimario's story plausible, but only if the school district didn't have all the information. If you were scheduled into two different classes during the same period, and you were always attending one of them, the school should not kick you out -- the mistake wasn't made by you. Even if your counselor DID notice this and alert you, I don't think you'd be responsible if you ignored it completely... worst case scenario should be that you'd have to retake a course the next semester. This was clearly a scheduling error, and you couldn't be held responsible. However, if you didn't point this fact out to the proper people (the school district itself, for example), there isn't much you can do about it.
There are plenty of stupid folks working in administration, but this mistake would have been understood if it were brought up to a higher district authority.
Oh, as a side note, does anyone CARE about high school records once you graduate from college? Perhaps it just depends on the industry you enter into... no one cares how a teacher did before he or she entered college.
I find Olimario's story plausible, but only if the school district didn't have all the information. If you were scheduled into two different classes during the same period, and you were always attending one of them, the school should not kick you out -- the mistake wasn't made by you. Even if your counselor DID notice this and alert you, I don't think you'd be responsible if you ignored it completely... worst case scenario should be that you'd have to retake a course the next semester. This was clearly a scheduling error, and you couldn't be held responsible. However, if you didn't point this fact out to the proper people (the school district itself, for example), there isn't much you can do about it.
There are plenty of stupid folks working in administration, but this mistake would have been understood if it were brought up to a higher district authority.
Oh, as a side note, does anyone CARE about high school records once you graduate from college? Perhaps it just depends on the industry you enter into... no one cares how a teacher did before he or she entered college.
levious said:
But lots of people come from a background of hardship and graduate high school without getting kicked out and having to make it up later. I'd never think a GED looks great to someone hiring. If you've got two applications/resumes of otherwise equal merit, you're going to go with the person who graduated high school on time.
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I almost didn't graduate last year because of being marked absent so much. Luckily I just had to do community service to get everything erased. All that drama slowed down my college applications. In May it almost looked like I would have to repeat a class. Meaning I would be in summer school and wouldn't graduate until August. But everything worked out, I graduated in May but now I'm applying to schools now. I'm also thinking about A&M, just because most of my friends go there. The only applications I finished last year were for Pitt and Texas State.
Congrats on getting your GED though. I hope everything works out from here.
Congrats on getting your GED though. I hope everything works out from here.
Speaking of ridiculous school policy, my principal took a cell phone from me on the first day of sophomore year because I was using it ten minutes after school ended for the day (I didn't go to that school as a freshman; in my previous school, cell phone usage after school was accepted). Luckily, I'm guessing enough people got their phones taken away that they changed the rule the following year.
Just a little story. Ridiculous rules happen to everyone.
Just a little story. Ridiculous rules happen to everyone.
Mine too, things have gone way way bad. It's time to teach these corrupt bastards a lesson...
I know it's not nice, and you probably won't like it, but cut a deal behind doors with yer counselor, tell him you'll give him some $$$$
from the lawsuit(make sure he's not wired, go to your local spy shop, and get the necessary equipment for that... ok). Let the school bleed some sweet @ss money, and let them learn never to use zero tolerance again!!!ChrisReid said:
Again, that's not true. Just because someone got a GED doesn't mean they flunked high school or anything. Lots of home school kids get GEDs. In conjuction with a college degree, a GED does look favorable to a great deal of HR people in the current market.
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That's more than I needed to know!maharg said:
olimario said:The GED was the easiest test I've ever had to take and I finally have my High School equivalency.
I wish I had done this a long time ago, but foresight isn't my forte.
GED SCORES
Math - 99%
Reading - 99%
Writing - 99%
Social Studies - 98%
Science - 90%
I have a score of 3650 Total.
This is how it matches up with High School Class Rank.
Top 1% -- 3440
Top 5% -- 3230
Top 10% - 3100
Top 25% - 2850
Top 33% - 2700
Top 50% - 2510
Top 67% - 2310
Top 70% - 2260
This is a happy day.
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olimario got kicked out of school because he's very dumb. in addition to being very dumb he's also very proud. in fact, i would say that he's too proud to admit that he got kicked out of school for being very dumb.
oh, what's that he said?
i love you victoria jane alma matter johnson. you are like pippi longstocking only with very short stalkings and very long pips.
oh, what's that he said?
i love you victoria jane alma matter johnson. you are like pippi longstocking only with very short stalkings and very long pips.
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