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[Tarazet]

No.

Tell that to all the masterfully designed stuff that doesn't sell. Not because they're not good, but because of lack of brand recognition, marketing or whatever. There's a good vocal majority that thinks iRiver makes amazing products and none come close to what Apple sells, simply because they're iRiver.

Just because something sells doesn't make it a good deal. It definitely doesn't make it a good product.

Again, it's a ripoff. Apple should actually lower their price point. It's competitive in price alone with other players, but it also incredibly stripped down. It's a bunch of bullshit.

Steve Jobs could probably sell a brick that carried 3 GB of music with no screen and forced you to buy a separate adapter for headphones and glowed in the dark, call it the iPod Glow and it'd sell millions of units.

It'll sell because it's iPod. Not because it fits people's needs or is a good product. There are other products in the same market that do the same thing in the same price range with a fucking screen and standard issue features.

Your "Apple fanboys will buy anything with the Apple name on it" act is getting tiresome. They wouldn't buy a complete piece of shit like you describe, and you know it. It's very easy to ruin a brand image. This isn't the sort of move that will completely ruin it; in fact, it's very good business sense. It's disastrous for consumers, but it's very good business sense.

BTW, I've read a few customer reviews of the BUSlink stuff you're whoring on Amazon, Yahoo, and elsewhere. Negative across the board: poor internal software, they often break entirely, and support/warranty service is almost nil. The $20 savings doesn't seem like it's much of a savings with that in mind.

 

[Macam]

Anyone know if the Apple stores have these IPods in yet? I was thinking about driving over and checking it out, but it's not really that close. As I said in the other thread I have a HiMD player that works great, but I would like something cheap and itunes compatable since the mini disc dosen't even work with my Powerbook.

I checked my local Apple store here in Austin and I was vaguely told "either sometime this week or next week" -- not really any help, but I suspect they'll show up nationwide by Sunday or mid-week next week at the latest when the commercial hits.

sonaratt, save your breath. Willco will just continue to endlessly express his distaste for the product by listing a million alternatives; which, with all due to respect to Willco, I think we all understand, but you're just flogging a dead horse at this point.

 

[Willco]

Your "Apple fanboys will buy anything with the Apple name on it" act is getting tiresome.

What act? Because I think the iPod shuffle is retarded it's now an act? I didn't even mention Apple fanboys. I think you have me confused of someone else.

I'm sure if Apple continues to churn out subpar players like this in the marketplace, the iPod brand will diminish. Which is a shame, because their other models have been so good.

BTW, I've read a few customer reviews of the BUSlink stuff you're whoring on Amazon, Yahoo, and elsewhere. Negative across the board: poor internal software, they often break entirely, and support/warranty service is almost nil. The $20 savings doesn't seem like it's much of a savings with that in mind.

Feel free to look at the other two I offered up, such as the Creative MuVo and Sandisk drive. Both are comparable. It's not the only one I brought up. It's not like I recommended it. I was asked to come up with drives in the same price range as the iPod Shuffle that were small form factor and had screens and other features. Those were three.

If you can spend $20, buy the Creative MuVo N200. I'll stand behind that. Great player.

sonaratt, save your breath. Willco will just continue to endlessly express his distaste for the product by listing a million alternatives; which, with all due to respect to Willco, I think we all understand, but you're just flogging a dead horse at this point.

Uh, smart guy, I was asked to list alternatives. Then people reply to me and I'm not to reply back?

 

[Shinobi]

OMG! A news of a hack just surfaced that mods plain old iPods into iPod Shuffles!

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

:lol :lol :lol That sums things up rather well.

I'm glad Apple makes different iPod products for different needs, but this is a shitty product when superior players already exist which was something Apple really avoided until now. You can buy players from Sandisk and Buslink for cheaper, and the Creative MuVo TX for just $9 more, and all have screens and offer extras (FM tuner! FM recording! Longer battery life! omgascreen!). And none are really heavier or bigger than the iPod Shuffle. Quite frankly, with the lack of anything in the iPod Shuffle, Apple is just ripping off everyone.

As for the second part, when I'm working out I do need a screen. Not to look at every second, but if I'm going to have up to 240 songs, I would like the ability to navigate through them if I don't like the song I'm listening to.

There is simply no excuse for no screen. Really, there isn't. Anyone who defends that is an idiot.



:lol

That's just a ridiculous comment. It is damage control. Anyone with half a brain can look at that press release and see Apple is trying to make their weakness look like their strength.

... Other players have tiny screens! Buttons are confusing! Shuffle is teh future!

I'm not saying the iPod Shuffle won't sell. Steve Jobs could wrap his poop in plastic, spray paint it white and call it iPod Buythis and it'd probably still move a million units.

People are idiots.

Agreed 100%...I had a feeling fanPods would vehemently defend this shit, and they've come through with flying colours. To anyone that isn't wearing iPod-branded shades, the lack of a screen is a fucking joke.

 

[Drozmight]

I'm going to stick with blank CD's and discman. I already own the capital and I can burn Itunes songs as many times as I want. At this point, I don't think the added benefit is worth it.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

I'm getting one for sure

 

[Fresh Prince]

Go Willco. Tell these dickriders how it is.

 

[radios shipping overview]

Apple® today introduced iPod® shuffle, a breakthrough digital music player based on iPod's legendary shuffle feature which lets users experience their music in a million different ways.

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

 

[Manics]

It'll sell because it's iPod. Not because it fits people's needs or is a good product. There are other products in the same market that do the same thing in the same price range with a fucking screen and standard issue features.

Willco you can't have it both ways. "It'll sell because it's iPod". That line tells me that Apple has done it right and the iPod is regarded as the best mp3 player when you take all factors into consideration. How did it get this way? Apple wasn't the first company to introduce a hard-drive based player, but they captured the market through a great design and brilliant advertising. They built a better product overall and now their brand is the defacto standard name people reference when they speak of mp3 players. Every other company designs their mp3 players with iPod in mind and how to try and beat the iPod. Creative's CEO was going on non-stop ripping into the new iPod -- why? Because he knows he's in a for a fight despite the iPod Shuffle's lack of features compared to his players. He's actually AFRAID of the new player and feels the need to cut it up to get some press.

I agree the that the Shuffle could have been alot better overall, but Apple is reaping the rewards of their past success in the iPod line and now have just "tested the waters" with this new player. Like I said previously, they'll release new flash-based players that improve upon the original design and concept. This gets them a foot in the market, and they can only go up from here.

 

[AntoneM]

I absolutely love my MuVo TX 512, I take that thing with me everywhere.

* Built-in FM radio and recorder
* Super-fast USB 2.0
* Built-in microphone for voice recording
* Skip free audio, perfect for the active lifestyle
* Simple drag-and-drop for music and data files
* 5-band custom equalizer and 4 presets (Jazz, Rock, Pop and Classical)
* Displays ID3 tags for song title
* Reversible LCD for left or right handed operation
* Stores data files such as photos and presentations
* Weight: 32grams without battery
* Up to 15hrs of MP3 continuous play on 1 x AAA battery*
* Signal-to-Noise Ratio: >90dB
* Frequency Response: 20Hz to 20kHz
* Harmonic Distortion Output: <0.05%

All of the gravy, none of the fat.