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[Azure Dream]

PS: Wait.. Ezodagrom does this mean they fucked up the sound effects? Watching your video everything seemed normal to me so.. did they fuck it up?

Dimps has some weird thing about flip-flopping the Spin Dash and Rolling sound effects. They did it in Episode I, I think they did it in 3DS Generations, and they've probably done it in Episode II as well. Honestly they've done it so much I have trouble keeping it straight now.

 

[DeVeAn]

Well I am excited. It's about 30 mins until it out. Got Diablo 3 ready too but, gonna play Sonic first!

 

[Lijik]

I think I bought this game while drunk one night because I noticed it in my steam roster while going to Rayman Origins earlier today. Might as well play it later after it unlocks I guess.

Also noticed I owned Lego Batman, not sure where that came from either.

 

[Azure Dream]

It just unlocked for me on Steam (US) to install.

 

[The Xtortionist]

sanic 4

y u no out yet on 360

 

[Kokonoe]

Can someone confirm if this game runs in 1080p on the PC or not? Thanks.

*edit*

It's 720p. ugh..

 

[Rikkun]

Dimps has some weird thing about flip-flopping the Spin Dash and Rolling sound effects. They did it in Episode I, I think they did it in 3DS Generations, and they've probably done it in Episode II as well. Honestly they've done it so much I have trouble keeping it straight now.

I never noticed in 4-1, hopefully won't notice now while playing this one.

 

[IrishNinja]

prolly gonna grab on the next sale...how are reviews lookin so far?

 

[Azure Dream]

The reviews I've seen so far are in the OT.

Oil Ocean Zone Act 2 sounds the same. :|

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

The 1UP review seemed pretty promising, but it also mentioned that it could be finished in one sitting... At five dollars less, this might have been more acceptable.

Also, do you get the bonus Episode Metal on the ios? (where I bought episode 1)

 

[IrishNinja]

The reviews I've seen so far are in the OT.

ah, my bad.
*checks OP* ew destructoid, gonna hold out for more

 

[@MUWANdo]

The 1UP review seemed pretty promising, but it also mentioned that it could be finished in one sitting...

As opposed to all those other 2D Sonic games...?

 

[Hitlersaurus Christ]

So the ending if you get all red rings and chaos emeralds is on youtube. It's

Spoiler

exactly the fucking same as the beta. Collecting the rings does nothing at all.

Yeah.

 

[DeVeAn]

Finished the game and damn bosses are a bitch this time. Yes the boss themes are so repetitive. Some awesome tracks in there but overall one of the weaker OST's in a Sonic game. I feel the the momentum change is not necessary in this game. It felt weird. Levels were much longer though. Lots of automated parts though. I missed the ring at the end every time because of the new physics.

All in all worth the money just not as good as it could have been.

 

[Electivirus]

Way too hyped for this. Unfortunately, I'm broke so I'll have to get it in a couple of days on payday. ;___;

 

[Azure Dream]

So the ending if you get all red rings and chaos emeralds is on youtube. It's

Spoiler

exactly the fucking same as the beta. Collecting the rings does nothing at all.

Yeah.

From what I've seen of the beta, there seems to be an awful lot of

Spoiler

exactly the same. Even a couple of the odder things that could've used tweaks, like Tails flying up crooked at the end of Special Stages. I think the only new things I've seen are a couple extra message boxes after levels, mostly to mention the combo moves, and they fixed Episode Metal's levels to not always play the Stardust Speedway cutscene.

One thing that really strikes me, the levels are easier, but in a good way. Episode I's levels to me felt way too much like a string of dick moves sometimes, especially near the end where something would always blindside you until you memorized it was there. They increased this for Metal's version of the four acts they included, but it doesn't make them harder, just irritating. Episode II level's can be played more instinctively, and even though that makes them easier, I feel like they're more enjoyable to play. They've also got more alternate routes to them, and I honestly wish there were more Red Rings to reward you better for exploring.

Comparing Episode Metal to Episode II is night and day. Metal got the short end of the stick.

Edit: Scratch that,

Spoiler

they didn't even fix the Episode Metal intro replaying when you pick a stage in trial mode. Smooth.

 

[Diablohead]

Did anyone actually expect fixes from that beta up to now? lol.

Can you still get 99rings pressing a keyboard button like in the beta?

 

[Dash Kappei]

Can someone confirm if this game runs in 1080p on the PC or not? Thanks.

*edit*

It's 720p. ugh..

What. Are you serious, you can't change the rez up to 1080p?

 

[ezodagrom]

What. Are you serious, you can't change the rez up to 1080p?

Posted about this in the previous page:

Sonic 4 Episode 2 is now out in Europe on Steam, unfortunately the PC version is like Episode 1, 1280x720 is the native resolution, and any other resolution is just a lazy upscale or downscale.
The game also has no native Anti-Aliasing option, but it's possible to force anti-aliasing through the graphics card drivers (at least for AMD/ATI graphics cards). Forcing anti-aliasing only works at the native resolution of the game though, that is, it only works at 1280x720.

Game at default settings:

8x SSAA + Edge Detect Filter (24x Samples):

 

[-PXG-]

Can someone confirm if this game runs in 1080p on the PC or not? Thanks.

*edit*

It's 720p. ugh..

It's a port. It was pretty evident in the beta version.

 

[TimmiT]

Guess_Who from Sonic Retro made a mod that replaces the game's soundtrack with Panty & Stocking music: http://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=28851

 

[Azure Dream]

Just like in Episode I, if you're near the end of a Special Stage and you know you're not going to make it, pause and hit Restart to return to the beginning.

I think SS7 might actually be easier with two players. There's plenty of times where there's two separate paths of rings to grab. Unfortunately, I'm stuck playing Single Player right now...

Edit: Got it. You have to be pretty lucky with

Spoiler

grabbing a ton of rings around that first full tunnel spiral. I swear I can't hit that tow rope power-up for the life of me, even jumping straight into it.

 

[Crub]

To people who have completed the game: how lilkely is another episode, based on the ending? Please reply without spoiling.

 

[Azure Dream]

To people who have completed the game: how lilkely is another episode, based on the ending? Please reply without spoiling.

It's all going to be based on sales, truthfully. That's the word straight from Sega.

But if you want to know something a little disheartening about a follow-up episode's chances...

Spoiler

There's clear evidence something was missing from the Beta, and a "To Be Continued" image goes unused even if you get all Red Star Rings and Emeralds and beat the game again. People expected it to be used in the final version of the game... and Hitlersaurus above, it's not. Which means they may have yanked a teaser for the next episode they had planned.

 

[Combichristoffersen]

What's the verdict on this, is it terribad like Episode 1 was, or is it just mediocre this time around? Also, is it up on EU PSN, or do we have to wait until tomorrow?

 

[dark10x]

The 1UP review seemed pretty promising, but it also mentioned that it could be finished in one sitting... At five dollars less, this might have been more acceptable.

Also, do you get the bonus Episode Metal on the ios? (where I bought episode 1)

How times change.

You could finish all of the Genesis Sonic titles in one sitting (they were, in fact, designed to be played like that as you couldn't save).

What exactly is wrong with that? They retailed for upwards of $60 back while this is just $15. Doesn't seem like a bad value proposition to me.

 

[Dash Kappei]

How times change.

You could finish all of the Genesis Sonic titles in one sitting (they were, in fact, designed to be played like that as you couldn't save).

What exactly is wrong with that? They retailed for upwards of $60 back while this is just $15. Doesn't seem like a bad value proposition to me.

100% agree on this. It's such a stupid remark to make and to point it as a negative.

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

How times change.

You could finish all of the Genesis Sonic titles in one sitting (they were, in fact, designed to be played like that as you couldn't save).

What exactly is wrong with that? They retailed for upwards of $60 back while this is just $15. Doesn't seem like a bad value proposition to me.

I'm still excited to pick it up. It's just a shame you can beat it in under two hours while there are sub $5 dollar PSN games that have lasted me weeks. I'm gauging the price right now in today's market comparing it to the length of other games. $15 is a lot for a two hour game. There are so many people that won't even touch some full retail titles until it's $20 bucks or less. But whatever, picking it up later this week.

 

[ezodagrom]

What's the verdict on this, is it terribad like Episode 1 was, or is it just mediocre this time around? Also, is it up on EU PSN, or do we have to wait until tomorrow?

It is better than Episode 1, movement physics are alot better, but still worse than classic Sonic in Generations.

About the level design, it's Dimps, expect speed boosters and springs to be overused.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

You could finish all of the Genesis Sonic titles in one sitting (they were, in fact, designed to be played like that as you couldn't save).

You could save in Sonic 3/& Knuckles. Sonic 1-2 also included debug and level select codes intentionally to ease playthrough.

 

[dark10x]

You could save in Sonic 3/& Knuckles. Sonic 1-2 also included debug and level select codes intentionally to ease playthrough.

Yes, Sonic 3 included a save, but standalone Knuckles and Sonic 1-2 did not. Sure, you could use codes, but the games WERE designed for a single sit down and can easily be completed in a couple hours (at most).

Focusing on making a lengthy game was one of the primary missteps Sonic Team made with the series since Sonic Adventure. By stripping out all of the fat they can actually come closer to delivering the kind of experience people have been asking for. For this reason I find it silly that people are complaining about length.

I think Sonic Generations really nailed it, however, as it focuses purely on Sonic while adding in optional Sonic based missions as an aside.

Both Sonic 4 Episodes have the right idea, but Sonic 4 simply didn't play as well as the Genesis games (though I still had some fun with it). I'm hoping Episode 2 plays better but its length is definitely NOT one of its problems.

 

[Dark Schala]

The reviews I've seen so far are in the OT.

Oil Ocean Zone Act 2 sounds the same. :|

They didn't yank the dying ducks from the beginning? Yikes.

So the ending if you get all red rings and chaos emeralds is on youtube. It's

Spoiler

exactly the fucking same as the beta. Collecting the rings does nothing at all.

Yeah.

Seriously? This is making me flashback to FFXIII-2 for some reason.

It is better than Episode 1, movement physics are alot better, but still worse than classic Sonic in Generations.

Sonic Generations... 3DS, you mean, or the console version? The physics and mechanics in the 3DS were at least a little decent and that was developed by Dimps too.

Still gonna wait for GCT for a demo.

 

[ezodagrom]

They didn't yank the dying ducks from the beginning? Yikes.


Seriously? This is making me flashback to FFXIII-2 for some reason.


Sonic Generations... 3DS, you mean, or the console version? The physics and mechanics in the 3DS were at least a little decent and that was developed by Dimps too.

Still gonna wait for GCT for a demo.

I didn't play Generations 3DS, I meant the consoles version.

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

Yes, Sonic 3 included a save, but standalone Knuckles and Sonic 1-2 did not. Sure, you could use codes, but the games WERE designed for a single sit down and can easily be completed in a couple hours (at most).

Focusing on making a lengthy game was one of the primary missteps Sonic Team made with the series since Sonic Adventure. By stripping out all of the fat they can actually come closer to delivering the kind of experience people have been asking for. For this reason I find it silly that people are complaining about length.

I think Sonic Generations really nailed it, however, as it focuses purely on Sonic while adding in optional Sonic based missions as an aside.

Both Sonic 4 Episodes have the right idea, but Sonic 4 simply didn't play as well as the Genesis games (though I still had some fun with it). I'm hoping Episode 2 plays better but its length is definitely NOT one of its problems.

So should they charge $60 for Sonic 1, 2 or 3 on PSN?

 

[Combichristoffersen]

So should they charge $60 for Sonic 1, 2 or 3 on PSN?

They would if they thought they could get away with it.

 

[dark10x]

So should they charge $60 for Sonic 1, 2 or 3 on PSN?

Of course not, those are old games.

This is a new game, however, and they are charging $15 for it. That's not unreasonable in 2012.

 

[Kokonoe]

It's a port. It was pretty evident in the beta version.

I figured because it was a "beta" that was the reason. I also didn't play the beta.

They also advertise this

http://store.steampowered.com/app/203650/

Experience the Sonic 4 saga as never before with the addition of a brand new engine; bringing you gameplay with updated physics and zones in stunning HD graphics!

 

[Combichristoffersen]

I figured because it was a "beta" that was the reason. I also didn't play the beta.

They also advertise this

http://store.steampowered.com/app/203650/

Well, technically they're right, as 720p is a HD resolution.

 

[Kokonoe]

Well, technically they're right, as 720p is a HD resolution.

Would you refer to 720p as "stunning"? Especially on a PC?

 

[Combichristoffersen]

Would you refer to 720p as "stunning"? Especially on a PC?

Of course not, but this is marketing speech.

 

[Dusk Golem]

Multiplayer is hectic, it's fun but can get you killed until you get used to it.

Also this game is lot more difficult than I thought it'd be. Beat it earlier, but died a lot more than I thought I would. Played through the game with a friend online throughout.

 

[Ein Bear]

720p is pretty bad for this sort of game even on consoles. Episode 1 ran at 1080p on the PS3, didn't it?

 

[danwarb]

720p is pretty bad for this sort of game even on consoles. Episode 1 ran at 1080p on the PS3, didn't it?

I'm pretty sure it was 1080p on the Xbox too.

 

[ShadiWulf]

launch trailer doesn't say "to be continued" looks like Iizuka-san already made up his mind and got rid of Dimps?

http://segabits.com/blog/2012/05/15/sonic-4-episode-ii-launch-trailer-proclaims-to-be-concluded/

 

[Vidiot]

launch trailer doesn't say "to be continued" looks like Iizuka-san already made up his mind and got rid of Dimps?

http://segabits.com/blog/2012/05/15/sonic-4-episode-ii-launch-trailer-proclaims-to-be-concluded/

Or it could mean a third and final episode is coming. Didn't the end of Back to the Future 2 say to be concludid?

 

[Dark Schala]

launch trailer doesn't say "to be continued" looks like Iizuka-san already made up his mind and got rid of Dimps?

http://segabits.com/blog/2012/05/15/sonic-4-episode-ii-launch-trailer-proclaims-to-be-concluded/

Maybe they'll release Ending DLC.

Nah, it's probably a third episode which includes Knuckles.

I didn't play Generations 3DS, I meant the consoles version.

Ah, I see. I didn't really expect console Generations-type of stuff in Sonic 4, but at least the stuff seems to be improved?

 

[ShadiWulf]

I think it could mean either way

I've read that "To be continued" screen has been taken out of the final version, it was in the beta.

 

[Teknoman]

I still cant see how after Colors and Generations, Episode 2 still has a mediocre soundtrack...Jun should just stop trying to mimic 16 bit music and just go with what he knows. It's not like the tracks he's done for modern Sonic games were bad...so he should really just give up attempting classic tunes.

Either that or just take him off the project and let Fumie Kumatani, Mariko Nanba, Tomoya Ohtani, or any of the Colors crew have a shot. Everything they've been involved in has been catchy and cool.

Also Sonic really needs to hit a higher speed with a fully powered spindash.

 

[RobbieNick]

Will someone do a Oil Ocean Act2 remix using Bergus Meredith's Penguin from the 60's Batman please?

 

[chickdigger802]

game looks fine.

But how does it feel?