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Sonic the Hedgehog Community Thread |OT3 & Knuckles|

But Sonic 2 MS's first boss is easy as pie. It's Sonic 2 GG's first boss that's absurdly difficult.

You're not wrong but I haven't played the MS version since I was 5, the GG version being in Sonic Adventure DX has tainted my perception of it forever!

...I should go back one day and conquer the glider.
 

Sciz

Member
Fuck me, I don't check in on Retro for a few days and Yasuhara goes and drops a megaton.

Link

In short, he gave a lecture at the Digital Dragons conference in Poland a couple days ago and casually talked about Sonic 2's original, time travelling game design, complete with concept art.

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Lots of well-informed discussion at the link trying to tie this into everything we already knew.

Doesn't seem to have gotten a thread yet, so someone feel free to go nuts.
 

Psxphile

Member
Going by that chart, it seemed less like a gameplay gimmick and more of a plot-based integration, like TMNT 2: Turtles in Time. Sonic runs through a few zones, confronts Eggman, gets teleported to the past, has to run through past variants and new zones, return to a future that was worse than he left it, and return back to undo the damage.
 

Tizoc

Member
Remember that 25th ann. Sonic the Hedgehog artbook from a few months back?
It's been pushed to July from a recent newsletter email
One thing I saw in the email they sent is a preview of the pages in it
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They also include mini comics from the time of the game's release.
I honestly thought only SNK ever did such things XP
 

Falk

that puzzling face
What is anyone supposed to think when things are painted with a broad brush?

Let's put it another way. The bizarro part of the fanbase is never going to disappear. Unless you're mandating that commentary basically all start with a 'yeah well, these sonic fans are weird but the rest are okay' disclaimer, said commentary is never going to disappear either.

You either get used to it and take it for what it is, or it's just going to continue bugging you forever.

A poster calling specifically another poster a deviant or whatever other derogatory term though, no can do. Against TOS, actionable, etc.

edit: Actually a lot of your thoughts on the blog post mirror my own
 

Sciz

Member
Between Federation Force and the synopsis of the MM cartoon, I think it's safe to say that they're both zombie franchises.
 
The PEGI 12 rating is the same as E10+ in America, right? Because, like, the list of E10+ Sonic games in America is pretty broad:

- Shadow the Hedgehog
- Sonic 2006
- Sonic Unleashed
- Sega All-Stars Tennis
- Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
- Sonic Adventure 2 HD (Even though the Dreamcast original was regular E for Everyone!)
- Sonic & The Black Knight
- Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric
- Sonic Lost World
- Mario & Sonic 2016 Rio

Don't expect guns and swearing and blood.
 

WPS

Member
The PEGI 12 rating is the same as E10+ in America, right? Because, like, the list of E10+ Sonic games in America is pretty broad:

- Shadow the Hedgehog
- Sonic 2006
- Sonic Unleashed
- Sega All-Stars Tennis
- Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
- Sonic Adventure 2 HD (Even though the Dreamcast original was regular E for Everyone!)
- Sonic & The Black Knight
- Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric
- Sonic Lost World
- Mario & Sonic 2016 Rio

Don't expect guns and swearing and blood.

Even Sonic Rush 2 was a PEGI 12, though that is techincally because of swearing. (Marine the australian stereotype says bugger, because of course she does)
 

Sciz

Member
The PEGI 12 rating is the same as E10+ in America, right? Because, like, the list of E10+ Sonic games in America is pretty broad:

- Sonic Adventure 2 HD (Even though the Dreamcast original was regular E for Everyone!)
E10+ didn't exist until 2005. ShtH itself seems to have been hastily edited at the last minute to get down to it from a T.
 

Sciz

Member
I'm going to go on a limb and guess you didn't actually play Federation Force.

Did I buy it? No. Did I borrow a copy from a friend who's a diehard Metroid fan, mostly on the basis on Next Level's pedigree? Yes. Was I still let down? You betcha. Game's bland as hell.
 

Blue Lou

Member
https://www.bundlestars.com/en/game/sonic-games-collection

  • Sonic Lost World + NiGHTMARE Zone DLC
  • Sonic Generations + Casino Nights DLC
  • Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed + Metal Sonic & Outrun DLC
  • Sonic Adventure 2 + Battle Mode DLC
  • Sonic Adventure DX
  • Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing
  • Sonic the Hedgehog*
  • Sonic the Hedgehog 2*
  • Sonic 3 and Knuckles*
  • Sonic Spinball*
  • Sonic 3D Blast*
  • Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine*
  • Sonic CD
  • Sonic the Hedgehog 4 - Episode 1
  • Sonic the Hedgehog 4 - Episode 2
  • Spiral Knights (Free to Play) + Sonic CD DLC

£13.99 (I can't find dollars.)
 
Yay, glad I found this thread. I'm a pretty big Sonic fan, even if the quality of the series has wildly fluctuated between great to outright shit. Glad to know this exists.

To start the conversation, I'm currently doing a listen of almost EVERY Sonic Soundtrack....I ended up listening to 53 games, and I think I have like....five to go? I thought I would never complete it, but I guess not.
 
Yay, glad I found this thread. I'm a pretty big Sonic fan, even if the quality of the series has wildly fluctuated between great to outright shit. Glad to know this exists.

To start the conversation, I'm currently doing a listen of almost EVERY Sonic Soundtrack....I ended up listening to 53 games, and I think I have like....five to go? I thought I would never complete it, but I guess not.

Which games are left?
 
Which games are left?

Sonic and the Black Knight
Sonic and the Secret Rings
And the three Sonic Boom titles.

I even listened to Sonic Eraser, even though the OST was around five minutes, ha ha. I wasn't impressed with that one. Chronicles was among the worst, no surprises there. Eraser was horrendous, too.
 

Sciz

Member
Since we are on the subject and I think it is time to introduce to everyone what I do in communities, top ten Sonic OST?

In release order, and without having to think about it:

Sonic 1
Sonic 2
Sonic CD JP
Sonic 3&K
Knuckles' Chaotix
Sonic R
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Rush
Sonic Unleashed
Sonic Colors
 

TheOGB

Banned
Since we are on the subject and I think it is time to introduce to everyone what I do in communities, top ten Sonic OST?
Not my exact order, but close to it

Unleashed
Colors
Rush
3&K
Adventure
CD
Advance 3
Battle
Sonic R
Adventure 2

I usually have Generations as my 3rd, but I decided to list mostly original soundtracks instead.

Shadow, 06, and Black Knight are honorable mentions.
 
Since we are on the subject and I think it is time to introduce to everyone what I do in communities, top ten Sonic OST?

By order of what popped into mind first:

Unleashed
3&K
Rush
Adventure
Adventure 2
CD JP
Advance 3
06
Colors
R
Shuffle

I think it's been said to death, but a list like this is pretty difficult to make without realizing how much every other game you didn't mention jams. Heck right now I'm thinking about Chaotix, the other Advance games, Battle, Heroes, Rush Adventure, Triple Trouble, Sonic 1 & 2, Black Knight, rambles on listing every damn game

I think a top 10 weakest OST's would probably be easier though. Mine would look something like:

Chronicles
Free Riders
Blast
3D Blast (Saturn)
Rivals
Spinball (Mega Drive)
Rivals
Rivals 2
Secret Rings/Drift 1/Sonic 4
Secret Rings/Drift 1/Sonic 4
Shuffle

And even then a number of those games aren't even bad OST's, just that they have more weak points as a full package comparatively speaking.
 
My top ten would probably look like this.

10.Sonic 3D Blast (Saturn)
9. Sonic Colors
8. Sonic Heroes
7. Sonic The Hedgehog 3
6. Sonic CD JP
5. Sonic Adventure 2
4. Sonic R
3. Sonic The Hedgehog
2. Sonic The Hedgehog 2
1. Sonic Adventure

Overall, I think the first two Sonic games are probably the best composed for me, but the first SA just has more meaning for me personally. I pretty much grew up with that soundtrack. Its hard not putting Unleashed or Sonic 06 on it, but I imagine the list will change over time. I don't plan stopping when it comes to listening to Sonic soundtracks.
 

Tizoc

Member
https://www.bundlestars.com/en/game/sonic-games-collection

  • Sonic Lost World + NiGHTMARE Zone DLC
  • Sonic Generations + Casino Nights DLC
  • Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed + Metal Sonic & Outrun DLC
  • Sonic Adventure 2 + Battle Mode DLC
  • Sonic Adventure DX
  • Sonic & SEGA All-Stars Racing
  • Sonic the Hedgehog*
  • Sonic the Hedgehog 2*
  • Sonic 3 and Knuckles*
  • Sonic Spinball*
  • Sonic 3D Blast*
  • Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine*
  • Sonic CD
  • Sonic the Hedgehog 4 - Episode 1
  • Sonic the Hedgehog 4 - Episode 2
  • Spiral Knights (Free to Play) + Sonic CD DLC

£13.99 (I can't find dollars.)

Somebody hook a brutha up with Sonic Lost World please~
 
My top ten in rough release date order:

Sonic the Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles
Sonic CD (Hataya/Ogata)
Knuckles Chaotix
Sonic 3D Blast (Saturn)
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic Rush
Sonic the Hedgehog [2006] (about the only good thing about the game, though)
Sonic Unleashed
Sonic Colors

And even then it's tough to say I'm 100% confident in it. Like, I'm tempted to sub Sonic [2006] or Knuckles Chaotix out for CD (Nilsen) or one of the first two Genesis games.

Sonic 3D Blast (Dreamcast)
wat
 

Village

Member
Sound tracks?

3 & Knuckles.
Adventure (My favorites, Top 3 can be arranged in any order_
Adventure 2



Shadow The hedgehog
Sonic 06
Sonic Rush (4-10 can be arranged in any order)
Sonic Unleashed
Sonic Lost world ( hate the game with a passion soundtrack is fire though )
Sonic R
Sonic and Sega's Allstars Racing, The first one if that one counts.
 
So Ventura Beat have apparently made a boo-boo and posted this picture with some sub text talking about Chemical Plant (courtesy of Sonic Stadium).

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The Stadium are cautioning that it might be fake but it's an interesting image, and not a Hardboiled Heavy.

I can't make a thread but if someone else deems this newsworthy enough have at it.
 
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