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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yes, only PC gamers enjoy GAAS or games with GAAS components.
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Yes, only PC gamers enjoy GAAS or games with GAAS components.
Don't forget your clown shoes on the way out
Felessan
Member
PC adoption doesn't rise that much.
PC market growth mainly driven by emerging markets like China, so no point to market/release earlier in developed market where PC is just a niche to consoles with anemic growth rate.
Looking at record Playstation profits... yeah, sure, "no way"
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Yes, only PC gamers enjoy GAAS or games with GAAS components.
Don't forget your clown shoes on the way out
And yet they still buy SP games like FF7R unlike PC gamers. 40k concurrent users, hundreds of thousands pirating it
I never said GaaS was unpopular on console, you seem to have a hard time understanding arguments Adam
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Jigsaah
Gold Member
I think that's one option. They could also cave, and run steam on their handheld/console as well. Then exclusivity is essentially over. PS6 owners can play basically all games, same with Xbox. I guess Nintendo would be the only hold out.
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That's why Sony had burned millions in that slop and continue to do so, amiright?
there is a reason why they're desperately burning money developing GAAS trash trying to catch lighting in a bottle, it's almost like they know they can't depend on their First Party exclusives games anymore or something like that...
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Sanepar
Member
They only have 3 more games to bring: Astro, Demons Souls and gt7.Spider-Man 2 is set to release on PC in only 3 days, but:
- pre orders not available.
- no marketing besides of the initial trailer (from october);
- nothing about system requirements;
- the Steam page for the game was disable in some regions (Japan).
@oxb.bsky.social
Not an answer but in Japan the store page is disabled entirelv. It sure is strange. https://store.steampowered.com/app/2651280/Marvels_SpiderMan_2/?cc=jpbsky.app
To be clear, I think Spider-Man 2 will be coming to PC, but it's strange that Sony is not giving a fuck about it.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Why can’t they do the same for more than 5 games?
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
There are many more games though.
Cakeboxer
Member
There is never any noteworthy marketing for Sony's pc ports. That's the main reason why they sell so poorly on pc and so good on console with the high budget marketing.
HogIsland
Member
there isn't a single piece of evidence pointing to sony backing away from pc support. everything points to more aggressive pc support.
cakeboxer said:
100% true, and the biggest reason they need to do day and date pc. they're burning marketing dollars that would otherwise add up to huge launch day sales on PS5 and PC.
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James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Explain FF7R
It has tons of TV ads running right now for the PC version
No excuses really
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Of course it’s not. What the hell? Any game with co op is GaaS? So that would mean Ghost of Sushi is also GaaS.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
It's the usual angry Sony fanboys likeJames Sawyer Ford . Pay them no heed.
I’m not saying Sony is backing away, they’re content picking up pennies in front of a steamroller
Any Co-Op focused online game is GaaS
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Gaiff
posted 5 examples so you think these 5 are it?Overcoming object permanence must have been tough
Really? There isn't a single PC specific TV spot anywhere online, you can find a few for the PS5 release though.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
That’s retarded even by your standards
kaizenkko
Member
I don't know if that was the case for games like Ghost of Tsushima or God of War, for example.
Cakeboxer
Member
What exactly? Poor pc sales or great console sales?
HogIsland
Member
Marvel's Spider-Man 2 for PC - PC Requirements & Features | PlayStation
Peter Parker and Miles Morales return for an exciting new adventure in the critically acclaimed Marvel’s Spider-Man franchise, now available for PC.
www.playstation.com
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
What is there to explain? The numbers are okay-ish. The reception has been lukewarm at 75% positive reviews. It didn't sell all that well on its home platform of PlayStation, and it's coming a year late. What exactly were you expecting?
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Astray
Member
We already knew this page was out there, they had an announcement already lol.
Marvel's Spider-Man 2 for PC - PC Requirements & Features | PlayStation
Peter Parker and Miles Morales return for an exciting new adventure in the critically acclaimed Marvel’s Spider-Man franchise, now available for PC.
The issue being discussed is them not opening preorders, not stating the price on the Steam page, and not releasing specs when we're 3 days away from launch.
I don't think this actually releases on the 30th and might be pushed back a bit for whatever.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I was at least expecting more than 100k CCUs peak
The reception is lukewarm? It’s a GOTY contender and has one of the highest metacritic scores last year
It sold millions on PlayStation, the results on PC are abysmal
willothedog
Member
Topher
Identifies as young
No, they won't simply because at that point Xbox is just another brand of PC.
ManaByte
Gold Member
They blocked their games on GeForce Now because people were playing God of War on Xbox
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Not seen a single one
Sports channels, see them constantly playing while at the gym
We’re talking about the same PlayStation where they had to go into manpower cuts to boost declining profit margins just a year ago?
It’s still a very muted campaign compared to the console launch.
No you weren’t
Sales weren’t anywhere close to spectacular on PlayStation either.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Are you out of your mind? 100K for a late port of a game?
75% positive reviews on PC is lukewarm.
It didn't sell well. Stop this shit. You don't even have the number on PC outside of current CCUs. It's a traditional PlayStation franchise that did okay on its most popular platform. It's now coming a year late to PC with decent reviews, but you were expecting it to do STALKER CCUs? lmao.
HogIsland
Member
unsubstantiated
Shadowstar39
Member
Many of those games aren't even on the ps4 and ps5, where have you been? Last seen on ps3?
Seriously I love ps1-ps3 (And early ps4) era Sony when they didn't censor, were Japan first, and gamer focused.
Ever since 2015 or so they lost the plot with me, but I won't get into that, as I could write a large essay on the turn of events and greater online societies fracturing and how that spurned Sony to hate it's heritage (similar to how some in the USA hate the usa. Of the big 3 only Nintendo stayed true to Japanese roots).
Games we don't have on current day systems from PS3 era (I won't even go into ps1/ps2 as there is too much):
- Motorstorm trilogy.
- ICO
- shadow of colossus
- Tokyo Jungle
- Puppeteer
- LBP Trilogy
- Killzone Trilogy
- Resistance Trilogy
- Ratchet Ps3 duology
- GOW 1 and 2 hd, plus psp games
- Socom 4
- Infamous 1 and 2
- Warhawk/Starhawk
- Heavenly Sword
Yeah those games, all not playable on PS4/PS5 (some with expensive premium tier sub and streaming only).
So saying they should be on pc is a stretch as you can't play them on modern systems.
Hell I would go so far as to say you are better off trying to play these using emulation on PC, so PC is actually more apt to play these games anyway.
Yeah If you can't tell, I don't appreciate modern woke/feminist/Drukmann-Hulst era Sony at all.. I much prefer, Kutaragi, Hari, Tretton, Yoshida, Henning, Stig/Jaffe team of past Sony.
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
let's wait for those juicy CCU numbers drama
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
They need to stop bitching then, almost everything is review bombed over some asinine issue
The game is well regarded as a good port
The CCUs tell you it sold poorly on PC and a small fraction of what it sold on console. DQ3 remake had better CCUs
ChorizoPicozo
Member
Based
Cakeboxer
Member
They would rather simply make their own pc launcher which i think they're working on anyways to get rid of the cut.
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HogIsland
Member
actually not simple considering how bad epic games store sucks after 6 years
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
100k? That's a big benchmark for a FF7 game.
Youre precious PS games on PC (aside from H2) never even got higher than 80k. Most do much worse than that too. So why would you expect FF7 R to be 100k or else it's bad?
kiphalfton
Member
Only reason why Sony would stop porting games, is they have nothing to port.
So yeah I can see Sony porting games to PC stopping soon.
So yeah I can see Sony porting games to PC stopping soon.
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Or they just don't think it's that great? Seen the same shit with Veilguard that was supposedly return to form, but it turns out no one gave a fuck about it. FF7 Rebirth did okay on PS5 despite fantastic reviews. People just don't care all that much for it. You'd think it would do Zelda numbers, but it's not even close.
It's an okay port. It doesn't go above and beyond and doesn't differ much from the PS version.
The CCUs don't tell shit because it's a late release people are in no hurry to play. DQ3 Remake is a new release. I can guarantee you, if it were 1 year late, it would have done worse than Rebirth.
Why you'd expect it to do amazing on PC when it didn't do amazingly on the premier JRPG console is beyond me.
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ResilientBanana
Member
Steam isn't the only launcher on the block, albeit, it's the most popular one. But Epic is also pretty popular considering fortnite adoption.
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Topher
Identifies as young
Pulling the game from GeForce Now is not equivalent to pulling the game from Steam. You really think Sony is going to undo all their PC initiative simply because Microsoft makes a PC and calls it "Xbox"?
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James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
I never said “amazing”. I don’t think 100k CCUs is amazing… for the quality this game is…I think it should have done way better than what it did on PC so far.
If there was some massively hidden audience for their games on PC, it seems Square was mistaken
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
It sold so well that Square PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED they will no longer be accepting moneyhats
yurinka
Member
No, it would be really retarded and nonsensical. They make a lot of money on PC and it's helping to grow their console userbase.
Their most recent reported numbers for their 1st party games, even if not 1:1 (also include rival consoles and addons):
Sony first party games FY23
- PS: $905.89M
- Outside PS (also including addons revenue): $667.35M
- PS: $248,38M
- Outside PS (also including addons revenue): $330.12M
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Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
100K for a late port is absolutely amazing. Games like GOT, Spider-Man, and HZD did fairly well and only hit 60-80K. All those games sell far more on PS than FF, so why you expected a JRPG to beat them all is puzzling to me.
I don't think anyone was expecting a massive hidden audience? This game cost a lot of money to make and SE wants additional sales. The PS sales alone ain't good enough.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Some of these takes wow.
I turn on the TV to find something to listen to while I answer some emails and this was my top recommendation
Miyazaki’s Slave
Gold Member
TIL: Any game with dlc content or feature updates in the form of paid expansions are all now considered GaaS.
Good thing we got rid of those Goal Posts...they were getting heavy anyway.
Good thing we got rid of those Goal Posts...they were getting heavy anyway.
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