Sony removed 'Game Revenue Beyond Console' as a Strategically Emphasized Indicator for their Gaming Division in their new Corporate Report

StreetsofBeige said:
I get that view, but why are GAAS day one games really any different?

If everyone knows GAAS games are day one on PC, then for any big GAAS gamers on PC they'll never bother buying a PS5 to play H2 if the PC port comes 2 years later. But if they are day one PC, then they'll remain on Steam.
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If they only play GaaS games, but yes that is a risk too. GaaS are easier to tie to subscriptions though. Not easy, but easier.
 
Fake said:
Yeah, kinda nuts.



And has potential to take a lot of money as well. 400m for Concord.
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Fairgames and Marathon coming up! 😉

And I agree, they hid the numbers because they didn't look good and management didn't want them on their performance reports.
 
PlayStation fans: Westerners are ruining Sony. We need a Japanese man back at the helm who cares about the company.

Totoki: We're going to release even more PC ports.

Michael Jordan Lol GIF
 
I'd be pissed if Sony had any games worth hoarding.

As it stands, I feel like Sony releasing their games on PC is much ado about nothing.

There have been 2 really standout Sony games this whole gen.
 
Imagine being Sony or Nintendo and looking at Xbox and saying. " Yeah I want to be like that "

Bring exclusives back, cut the overhead spending, and delay PC ports at least a year
 
The haters' dream is over.

They were delusional and stupid, thinking that it would be "day one PC," lunatics and idiots, thinking that Sony would lose a PlayStation sale with 100% of revenue to sell on Steam and only keep 70%?

Did they dream that Xbox support would increase? The trend is that not even GaaS will be released "day one" on Xbox, since the platform doesn't sell and Microsoft itself has already ended console production, leaving only inventory for sale.

Simple for those who don't understand:

The shift to "third party" will decrease, not increase as the haters fantasized.
 
BennyBlanco said:


And to think they said this one month ago then did a complete 180 now is retarded
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Sony said the same thing midway through the PS4 generation.

I think it has something to do with selling the console at a subsidized price and then profiting from user activity within the platform?

Maybe now is the time to profit from the activity of users who have already purchased a PlayStation?
 
Det said:
The haters' dream is over.

They were delusional and stupid, thinking that it would be "day one PC," lunatics and idiots, thinking that Sony would lose a PlayStation sale with 100% of revenue to sell on Steam and only keep 70%?

Did they dream that Xbox support would increase? The trend is that not even GaaS will be released "day one" on Xbox, since the platform doesn't sell and Microsoft itself has already ended console production, leaving only inventory for sale.

Simple for those who don't understand:

The shift to "third party" will decrease, not increase as the haters fantasized.
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Why do we have to have "haters" references in any of this? It's just video games
 
Topher said:
Why do we have to have "haters" references in any of this? It's just video games
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It's simple; you just need to compare the PlayStation and PC threads.

In the PC threads, there aren't any "console gamers" blabbing, saying that PC GPUs will disappear because they'll only be for AI.

In the console threads, there's always some PC jerk bothering you.

Does anyone remember the now-banned PC lunatic who used to appear in every console thread claiming that Horizon Zero Dawn on PC would have better graphics than Forbidden West on PS5?
 
Ebrietas said:
"Multi-device" doesn't mean third party. PS4, PS5, PS5 pro, PS6, and PS portable will all be part of the same ecosystem. Similar to how Apple has a multi-device ecosystem.
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They are/have gone multiplatform 3rd party and will continue to expand on it as they have said. If they wanted to mention the PS ecosystem, they would have.
 
Looks like Hermen Hulst getting demoted is already paying dividends for the console brand.

Sony refocusing on single player AAA games and now focusing even more on selling their consoles. What a huge pivot.


I only hope this means the era of out of touch western executives controlling the direction of the Playstation brand is finally over.


I still expect them to release games on PC like they are currently doing but the narrative that they are going multiplatform like Xbox/MS is foolish and unsubstantiated. The Playstation consoles are still the central part of their business and they want to sell as many of them as possible.
 
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Kvally said:
In reality, they just moved it to a new location on their PDF.

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The first highlight - PlayStation already is a Multi-Device ecosystem, even without accounting for PC.

The second highlight - talks about GaaS, which we know is still going ahead, and not related to what's going on here.

It hasn't been moved, they're both unrelated points.
 
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Det said:
It's simple; you just need to compare the PlayStation and PC threads.

In the PC threads, there aren't any "console gamers" blabbing, saying that PC GPUs will disappear because they'll only be for AI.

In the console threads, there's always some PC jerk bothering you.

Does anyone remember the now-banned PC lunatic who used to appear in every console thread claiming that Horizon Zero Dawn on PC would have better graphics than Forbidden West on PS5?
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Guess you miss the banning of good old rofif rofif who haunted PC threads regularly. There is a always a back and forth going on between console and PC gamers on this forum. Are you really going to suggest that console gamers are not taking shots about how much a PC costs and all the maintenance required? You are ignoring a hell of a lot of posts if you only see the good guy console side of it. So you can pretend it only happens one way if you want but that just isn't true.
 
I thought Sony would double down on console this gen, with more studios, more games. Instead, they diversified by going multi-plat, going GaaS, two of which proved to be not so successful. Going GaaS is just too artificial, trying to force-create as many successful GaaS titles as possible instead of letting aspiration do the job. Sony could also invest in some niche japanese studios, having them make arthouse titles for their console so the PS5 can both have high-production value games and high artistic value games. Instead, they invested in fucking China and India to produce some generic games that their own western studios can make better. Poland, France also have talented devs, tradition of making video games, why not invest in these countries instead? Just really perplexing to me.

The console is selling strong I agree but the hardcore fans clearly seem disappointed and angry with Sony's direction this gen. Hardcore fans are the only fans who will stay with you when you are in trouble, but only when they know you are trying to improve. It's clear hardcore fans seem disconnected from the Playstation brand right now.
 
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Gamer_By_Proxy said:
That's not really apples to apples since one will be locked to the manufactures store and have all the sony games day 1.
I love my steam deck which is probably why i won't get the playstation handheld, i'll just get the next steam deck.

But I bet Sony may see this as crossing the line. Steam is coming into the living room, with more games, some sony games, all xbox games, and probably not charging for online multiplayer . . . that's a threat that could make playstation change their multiplat stance some. GaaS would still probably go everywhere, and things like MLB and Lego Horizon. So still multiplat some.
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To be honest I not fall to the apples to apples argument.

If they want to sell a handheld first they need to rethink their strategy. Their need to be against Nintendo Switch 2, not against Steam Deck and their clones.

If I can play Playstation games on the next Steam Deck I sure I will buy the next Steam Deck instead of whatever Playstation handheld will be.

There are no 'weakness and strenghts' when the competition product is using your strenght as a market tool.
 
Sony is healing. They are learning from the success of Nintendo this generation, the importance of exclusives especially single player exclusives and giving importance to the console owners and fanbase. PS fans wants single player exclusives, and too stop porting exclusives to PC and other console. There will be no point of buying Ps5 or even Ps6 if exclusives will just appear on other consoles and pc. For me, I hope they revive Japan studio to bring back Japan made exclusives.
 
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RetroGamingUK said:
So I guess their PC releases are a bit of a flop then.
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Didn't Horizon zero dawn sell like 3.7 million on pc ?
And Gow 2.5 million


Former PlayStation executive Shuhei Yoshida stated that releasing PlayStation games on PC is "almost like printing money" because it's a cheaper way to generate significant additional income and reach new audiences in PC-centric markets like China, helping fund new, expensive game development.
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Is Astro a flop did it sell close to HZD ?

Astro Bot had sold over 2.3 million copies as of March 2025
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yogaflame said:
Sony is healing. They are learning from the success of Nintendo this generation, the importance of exclusives especially single player exclusives and giving importance to the console owners and fanbase. PS fans wants single player exclusives, and too stop porting exclusives to PC and other console. There will be no point of buying Ps5 or even Ps6 if exclusives will just appear on other consoles and pc. For me, I hope they revive Japan studio to bring back Japan made exclusives.
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This, japanese games are more popular than ever again, the decline of Japanese games popularity during the 7th gen caused so much damage to Sony's perception of japanese gaming landscape it seems. To the point that, even now, they still do not really give a fuck about their own home soil.
 
Det said:
It's simple; you just need to compare the PlayStation and PC threads.

In the PC threads, there aren't any "console gamers" blabbing, saying that PC GPUs will disappear because they'll only be for AI.

In the console threads, there's always some PC jerk bothering you.

Does anyone remember the now-banned PC lunatic who used to appear in every console thread claiming that Horizon Zero Dawn on PC would have better graphics than Forbidden West on PS5?
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Oh, piss off. You can't go 3 replies in a PC performance thread without some asshat going "Huhuhuh, imagine paying $50,000 for a PC with barely better visuals" and you're one of those guys.
 
Eh, companies adjust this stuff all the time, just means it's not a focus, doesn't mean they are ending ports.

If they were doing that, and changing their strategy, they'd probably have just said it.

Single player games will probably continue to get late ports and it's hardly hurting Sony's console business. You guys make no sense with that...

"PC ports aren't selling!" "PC ports are destroying the console business!" lol
 
Panajev2001a said:
Done right it can probably remove more money than Sony is comfortable with. They stand to lose a LOT of money if they convince gamers that they really do not need to buy their HW to play games.

PSN+ subscriptions are at risk, MTX and third party royalties are at risk, etc…

They have a very successful moat, they sell consoles (quite a lot compared to MS), they have lots of third party sales and lots of paying subscribers to their services.

They do not have the amount of publisher houses in house like MS now does (and MS's Xbox HW business is nowhere near as healthy), they do not have the kind of mindshare with first party content to live off of that only. I do not believe they have a real shot to get PC players to download their store app and buy first and third party games from them (steaming them away from Steam).

The idea of porting and launching all their games day and date on PC would be suicide for their console business as a whole and would remove a LOT of revenue they currently make. Once the users were to flee, they do not easily come back either so you cannot put the genie easily back into the bottle.
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This is exactly where I am at. I prefer consoles as I had decades with PC and ultimately needed the separation for work and play, but this gen Hulst and Co have made all the wrong moves (IMO), under delivering on 1st party game quality, impact 3rd party quality too, and making games like GT7 into an always online GaaS and then diluting the need for the hardware,

I upgraded my aging Xeon workstation recently with a Ryzen 7 9800X3D and a fancy SilverStone desktop case, and for half the price of a PS5 Pro (with disc drive) I could upgrade my 30xx GPU and re-join high-mid level PC gaming at any time if the separating work from play no longer offers anything worth while, and I've already stopped buying games or subbing for 18months because the quality is so average, and my PS5 has become an eFootball F2P GaaS machine mostly.

A friend lent me Outlaws and I got 8hrs in and really can't be bothered given how mid-everything is, reconfirming lack of quality and jacked up game prices are already having me think twice about needing the PlayStation hardware beyond the rare Astro bot or Returnal.

I could easily see me pass on PS6 if things don't rapidly change direction on game quality and lack of permanent exclusives.
 
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