Special Metal Gear Solid V: TPP stream announced for gamescom, hosted by Keighley

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Kaz... I'm already a shibe.
 
Rogue Agent said:
Actually, there's nothing about Afghanistan specifically in his history. He fought in the Gulf War as an eighteen year old and spent time in the middle east and most notably Iraq when he was with the SAS, he was captured by the Iraqis and made a POW and then he was rescued by the U.S many years later after Snake kills Big Boss in Zanzibar Land. He then joined FOXHOUND and later started the Shadow Moses Incident, but this all happenened in the 90s/00s long after TPP which is set in the early 80s... Liquid would be just a child in this game.

A lot of the speculation about Eli/Liquid being in Afghanistan in his youth was likely based on people getting confused with that part of his history in Iraq, but there is also the detail that he supposedly "speaks Arabic like a native" which is why he was selected to infiltrate the Middle East as a sleeper agent. So it was a popular assumption at the time that he might have spent part of his youth in the Middle East in addition to England where he learnt arabic and traveled between Iraq/Afghanistan which could have explained Eli being Liquid as part of TPP is set in Afghanistan. But none of that was ever certain, just an assumption and rightly so because it seems speculation that Eli's in the Middle East has turned out wrong.

It's still most likely true he is Liquid given we have even stronger evidence now, but the part about him being in Afghanistan is outdated. In the latest trailer, you can see Eli fighting Big Boss with the same chair as the E3 2013 trailer and if you look outside the window they're surrounded by jungle, which implies he isn't in Afghanistan or Iraq... perhaps Africa considering that's the only location we know that features a jungle and deals with child soldiers so far. So what the hell is Liquid doing in a jungle? Like you say shouldn't he be in England?

Well, Eli is actually wearing clothing that says "Liquid Man" or "Liquid Men" as Ishida pointed out, but he's also on what appears to be a shipwreck, carrying a conch shell, there's a rotting pig's head on a table and a symbol of a pig on his back with an eyepatch. Some speculation is that the conch shell and the pig are visual references to Lord of the Flies, as that was a story about a group of british boys that got stranded on a desert island without any adults, used a conch shell and tried to govern themselves and hunt a wild pig.

So the theory is that Eli/Liquid is like the "chief" of a group of child soldiers or "Liquid Men" in the game, and they're hunting down "Pig" Boss. That would be why in the sins of the father trailer he's got that cocky attitude and looks all authoritative like he's sitting on a throne. He must have somehow got stranded there somehow perhaps escaping during the middle of a Cipher/XOF/Diamond Dogs conflict or something. If this is correct, then it's pretty much completely new stuff, not really hinted at before in the series but still probably Liquid. So yeah, it is a retcon/new backstory.

Also, there's a very very outdated bio on Liquid that states he learned Arabic from the MI5 and studied it extensively to the point he speaks this tongue like a native. It also mentions he engaged in combat scenarios from as young as 13. I'm not sure how much of this still stands if it was ever accurate, Big Boss's profile for instance is like a completely different character from what we witnessed since MGS3, but it's still an interesting read nonetheless:

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Good post learnt a bit there. I think I mis-remembered a line from MGS where he talks about hunting with jackals. I remembered it as Afghanistan rather than Middle East :D Probably subconsciously swayed by the new game. Also that explanation why Liquid is away from England will do me fine.

I love that bio too. Expert in parachuting :D
 
BGMNTS said:
Good post learnt a bit there. I think I mis-remembered a line from MGS where he talks about hunting with jackals. I remembered it as Afghanistan rather than Middle East :D Probably subconsciously swayed by the new game. Also that explanation why Liquid is away from England will do me fine.

I love that bio too. Expert in parachuting :D
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No problem! But yeah, if you look at the Big Boss version it's now hilariously inaccurate :P

http://i.imgur.com/A3M3AOy.jpg

And speaking of Liquid and Parachuting... I played MGS1 back in the 90s and somehow it actually took me until last year that I noticed you can find Liquid's parachute from where he escaped the Hind. Felt so stupid lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atjOqeLGgss

Also never saw this either:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzG8Sty9veI

Some of the easter eggs in these games are crazy. I hope we still get a lot of them in Phantom Pain, even though it's gone open world.
 
Instead of making a thread I think this is the place to ask this, so I've been thinking of buying a ps4 bundle during Black Friday, so I was wondering should I wait for the Ineitable gun metal ps4 that way play GZ( haven't played it) and TPP for the first time?
 
Rogue Agent said:
No problem! But yeah, if you look at the Big Boss version it's now hilariously inaccurate :P

http://i.imgur.com/A3M3AOy.jpg

And speaking of Liquid and Parachuting... I played MGS1 back in the 90s and somehow it actually took me until last year that I noticed you can find Liquid's parachute from where he escaped the Hind. Felt so stupid lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atjOqeLGgss

Also never saw this either:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzG8Sty9veI

Some of the easter eggs in these games are crazy. I hope we still get a lot of them in Phantom Pain, even though it's gone open world.
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Yeah I wouldn't take much info from that handbook as canon.

Also, lol at that Mono TV easter egg.

NoctisVsStar said:
Instead of making a thread I think this is the place to ask this, so I've been thinking of buying a ps4 bundle during Black Friday, so I was wondering should I wait for the Ineitable gun metal ps4 that way play GZ( haven't played it) and TPP for the first time?
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I would wait and see if there's a crazy good deal on PS4s during Black Friday. If you can snag one for $350-$300 then I say go for it. Otherwise I'd just wait for the bundle.
 
It's a real fun app. A great time waster, especially because it keeps you up to date with a lot of Metal Gear stuff because there are like a gazillion different questions about the franchise.
 
Dawg said:
It's a real fun app. A great time waster, especially because it keeps you up to date with a lot of Metal Gear stuff because there are like a gazillion different questions about the franchise.
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I'm not seeing many MGSV or PW related questions at all :(
 
Dawg said:
It's a real fun app. A great time waster, especially because it keeps you up to date with a lot of Metal Gear stuff because there are like a gazillion different questions about the franchise.
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In Metal Gear Solid V's final act, Solid Snake is voiced by which actor (English)?
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I played that quiz game and one of the questions was "Who's DNA did Liquid Ocelot use to control SOP?" and the options were "Solid Snake, Eva, Big Boss, or Liquid Snake". The correct answer being Big Boss, which isn't right. It was Solidus. wtf
 
Infinity Patriot said:
I played that quiz game and one of the questions was "Who's DNA did Liquid Ocelot use to control SOP?" and the options were "Solid Snake, Eva, Big Boss, or Liquid Snake". The correct answer being Big Boss, which isn't right. It was Solidus. wtf
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Well, Solidus' DNA is the same as BB's...so I guess it's right?
 
Rogue Agent said:
No problem! But yeah, if you look at the Big Boss version it's now hilariously inaccurate :P

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Yup, although we would need to see how much of that info was canon back then to begin with, and if it was something that came from Kojima.

Either way EVA explains it well in MGS4, when she says Big Boss' life and adventures were exaggerated, and even completely constructed for the media and overall public.
 
How can I find the mgs quiz?
When I browse gaming ones it only shows me very few.

/nvm
It was only available in English, got it now :)
 
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