Spectre's opening theme/intro is so terrible. Falsetto, tentacle porn, Cthulhu?
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I think the song is mostly ok, but the falsetto sucks, the fact that it was picked over Radiohead'a track is terrible (imo Lana's submission was pretty dull), and that it won an Oscar is fucking insane. Especially when they had Lady Gaga perform her song just two minutes before, Jesus.
Vigilant Walrus
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I don't disapprove of what they were going for with the opening but the use of the octopus and the cuts to the organization seemed like a form of lazy symbolism. It interjects this erotic interplay with Bond being naked in golden flames being touched by women- combined with the Sam Smiths visuals I get more the sense that the opening fits a romantic drama or a romance thriller.
Bond is mechanical, psychologically closed off and he uses women like fleshlights. The other films cannot get to where Casino Royale is, because all the meat is on Casino Royale. It's the quitessential Bond film. It might be the best of all of them if we remove the classic factor from the old ones.
In Quantum of Solace you have a mediocre movie that took too much from Bourne, but they tried to do something interesting, and its visually inspired (certain scenes) and it was interesting to go without a love interest. I also liked how it tried to put Climate change into the mix. But the only stand out moment in the entire film is when his friend lies dead in the trashcan and he takes his wallet not giving a shit about him. It's that sort of cynicism that is befitting of the double 00 lifestyle. His lavish flamboyant lifestyle goes hand in hand with a disregard for emotional involvement. Don't get to close to Bond. He is cursed to walk alone.
Skyfall, I loved. Visually it's a masterpiece. It's a slower paced film, but I liked what they did with it.
I still think Spectre is better than Quantum.
I'd rate them:
1. Casino Royale < Incredible
2. Skyfall < Great
3. Spectre < Average
4. Quantum < Disappointing
Bond is mechanical, psychologically closed off and he uses women like fleshlights. The other films cannot get to where Casino Royale is, because all the meat is on Casino Royale. It's the quitessential Bond film. It might be the best of all of them if we remove the classic factor from the old ones.
In Quantum of Solace you have a mediocre movie that took too much from Bourne, but they tried to do something interesting, and its visually inspired (certain scenes) and it was interesting to go without a love interest. I also liked how it tried to put Climate change into the mix. But the only stand out moment in the entire film is when his friend lies dead in the trashcan and he takes his wallet not giving a shit about him. It's that sort of cynicism that is befitting of the double 00 lifestyle. His lavish flamboyant lifestyle goes hand in hand with a disregard for emotional involvement. Don't get to close to Bond. He is cursed to walk alone.
Skyfall, I loved. Visually it's a masterpiece. It's a slower paced film, but I liked what they did with it.
I still think Spectre is better than Quantum.
I'd rate them:
1. Casino Royale < Incredible
2. Skyfall < Great
3. Spectre < Average
4. Quantum < Disappointing
No one can explain it because the movie is fucking awful.
DeathoftheEndless
Crashing this plane... with no survivors!
Love the song. Love the opening. Love the movie.
Fox Mulder
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The whole movie sucked.
Lazy movie, terrible payoff for the quantum story, and wasted Waltz who I wanted to be a Bond villain for years.
The intro song is fucking awful and it baffles me how it even won an Oscar.
Lazy movie, terrible payoff for the quantum story, and wasted Waltz who I wanted to be a Bond villain for years.
The intro song is fucking awful and it baffles me how it even won an Oscar.
RustyNails
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Robert DeLong's Long Way Down is so James Bond theme I thought it was Spectre's theme song for the longest time.
Adele's Skyfall is GOAT bond theme from Craig era. You know my name is a close second. Everything else is highly forgettable.
Yeah, I really dug it, and the song. Downhill afterward though. Terrible film.
Fox Mulder
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AHA-Lambda
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Agree Sam Smith is one of the worst of all time, esp after Casino and Skyfall were so good.
None get me as pumped The Living Daylights though.
https://youtu.be/y9p0FJnk2vM
None get me as pumped The Living Daylights though.
https://youtu.be/y9p0FJnk2vM
Not really.
This thread is incredible, I didn't know that so many people thought Spectre was a turd. That's GAF hyperbole in a fine example, I guess.
That just proves his point.
My question is why does Bond look like a fucking wax figure right at the beginning?
Lol just saw the whole thing...wtfisthisshit.
I'm still baffled that Muse's "Supremacy" isn't a Bond theme. It's straight up "Live And Let Die" in a few moments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avM_UsVo0IA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avM_UsVo0IA
CD'S BAR
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This is true. I haven't even finished it because the editing makes it unwatchable.
Frozenprince
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My biggest issue with Moore is that I dislike Live and Let Die, and after Golden Gun, it became clear that Moore was way too old and, this is the important bit, way too out of shape and quite frankly fat and portly to be Bond as a suave, lady killer type. He came off as a creepy grandpa.
I just really don't like him, tbh.
Tomorrow Never Dies is a pretty good movie, not as good as the good Craig ones or Connery ones or Goldeneye, but it's a pretty good movie until the last 1/3rd.
Daffy Duck
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Ocarina_117
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Live and Let Die the GOAT.
Have you seen On Her Majesty's Secret Service? That's the closest to CR tonally and a damn good movie.
Frozenprince
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I mean it's been critically, commercially and pretty well regarded as a pretty mediocre movie, average ratings are sitting around 5.5-6/10
So, yeah it's pretty turdly. It's not just a GAF thing like people try and make EVERYTHING that disagrees with their personal perception of said thing.
"You Know My Name" is garbage, Chris Cornell's voice is awful.
THESE are bond themes:
On Her Majesty's Secret Service <- GOAT Instrumental Theme
https://youtu.be/LfjL9uX2leg
You Only Live Twice <- GOAT Vocal Theme
https://youtu.be/Q_w4DVgvVHs
From Russia With Love
https://youtu.be/6lRuXckWC_8
Diaminds Are Forever
https://youtu.be/ZwbEuzJCnqI
Live and Let Die is a great song but I always felt it didn't fit with Bond. Same for Nobody Does It Better.
Man With The Golden Gun and Goldfinger are a bit too cheesy for me.
But as you can see above, all the actual title sequences are cheesy as fuck. It's a campy franchise, always has been.
I adore the Radiihead song and I think it would have fit well despite being pretty somber. Fuck Sam Smith.
Check out this unused song for You Only Live Twice by Lorraine Chandler:
https://youtu.be/aNGxdrdq-wY
Nowhere near as good but a fun tune, all the same.
Here is Straw's unused theme for The World Is Not Enough:
https://youtu.be/DyyWM9RjIGk
I've never heard of STRAW but the lead singer is ripping off The Bends-era Thom Yorke pretty hard IMO.
THESE are bond themes:
On Her Majesty's Secret Service <- GOAT Instrumental Theme
https://youtu.be/LfjL9uX2leg
You Only Live Twice <- GOAT Vocal Theme
https://youtu.be/Q_w4DVgvVHs
From Russia With Love
https://youtu.be/6lRuXckWC_8
Diaminds Are Forever
https://youtu.be/ZwbEuzJCnqI
Live and Let Die is a great song but I always felt it didn't fit with Bond. Same for Nobody Does It Better.
Man With The Golden Gun and Goldfinger are a bit too cheesy for me.
But as you can see above, all the actual title sequences are cheesy as fuck. It's a campy franchise, always has been.
I adore the Radiihead song and I think it would have fit well despite being pretty somber. Fuck Sam Smith.
Check out this unused song for You Only Live Twice by Lorraine Chandler:
https://youtu.be/aNGxdrdq-wY
Nowhere near as good but a fun tune, all the same.
Here is Straw's unused theme for The World Is Not Enough:
https://youtu.be/DyyWM9RjIGk
I've never heard of STRAW but the lead singer is ripping off The Bends-era Thom Yorke pretty hard IMO.
Frozenprince
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Stopped reading riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight here.
What can I say, I never liked Sound Garden.
Maybe awful is too strong of a word, but I really don't care for his voice.
JehutyRunner
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The fact we never got the Radiohead version as the official theme is, in my opinion, a travesty compared to what we got.
The instrumental version is beautiful, in my opinion. It's Smith's whiny vocals that squander any potential the song had.
Cthulhu ftaghn, hail Hydra.
To be fair, none of the Craig Bond songs have been any good. That falsetto, though. There's a bunch of male singers out there that can manage a truly female-sounding falsetto. They should have went with someone else for the theme. The song title call sticks with me, though. That at least was solidly done.
Visually the opening was all over the place, no pun intended.
To be fair, none of the Craig Bond songs have been any good. That falsetto, though. There's a bunch of male singers out there that can manage a truly female-sounding falsetto. They should have went with someone else for the theme. The song title call sticks with me, though. That at least was solidly done.
Visually the opening was all over the place, no pun intended.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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