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[AngularSaxophone]

if that's what in the video it's easily media sensationalism at minimum and a flat out smear to make puritans look crazy at worse. The people who first came here had a greater understanding of scripture than any church today I'd wager. They surely took circumcision as a covenant and nothing else.

 

[DryvBy]

Science. Let's not disregard science because you think it's wrong or evil because it's not. The uncut group always acts like it destroys a dong and it's incapable of performing it's task if it's cut.

 

[TrainedRage]

When I have a baby girl I will ask the doctor to cut off her clitoris. I mean it could get dirty and infected if just left there. /s

It's a disgugtingly outdated practice that can harm children.

 

[J-Rod]

Care to elaborate as to why you are glad you were circumcised? I mean was this a tribal thing or a required medical procedure?

I can't speak for finowns, but I'm glad personally because circumcision is so common when and where I was from that uncut was considered weird and off putting. The few uncut people usually got made fun of a lot in the locker rooms (ardvaark, sock dick, etc.) by guys and girls generally weren't interested if it was known you had one (and when 1 knew, everyone else would too). Lots of stereotypes whether true or made up were held by most people (stank dick and what not) that really didn't do you any favors as a thirsty teenager. When you're in the circus, it's the person without face paint that looks weird.

That said, I probably won't get my son cut although my wife is none too happy about.

 

[AngularSaxophone]

Science. Let's not disregard science because you think it's wrong or evil because it's not. The uncut group always acts like it destroys a dong and it's incapable of performing it's task if it's cut.

How dare my parents take away my right to possibly feel more sensation during premarital sex and fornications LET ME LIVE IN MY FLESH TO THE FULLEST.

When I have a baby girl I will ask the doctor to cut off her clitoris. I mean it could get dirty and infected if just left there. /s

It's a disgugtingly outdated practice that can harm children.

If it were harming children I highly doubt hospitals would even offer it. Where do you guys come up with this nonsense?

 

[cryptoadam]

How dare my parents take away my right to possibly feel more sensation during premarital sex and fornications LET ME LIVE IN MY FLESH TO THE FULLEST.



If it were harming children I highly doubt hospitals would even offer it. Where do you guys come up with this nonsense?

I find it a bit odd that there is a subset group of people who are so obsessed with baby penises. Not sure what the obsession is.

 

[AngularSaxophone]

I think it's feeling gyped because they can't have possible full on hot porno sex without all of the nerves of their peens in tact. Sweet Jesus I can't be Ron Jeremy? Peter North? WHAT WILL I DO WITH MY LIFE? I should sue my parents for punitive damages.

 

[cryptoadam]

I think it's feeling gyped because they can't have possible full on hot porno sex without all of the nerves of their peens in tact. Sweet Jesus I can't be Ron Jeremy? Peter North? WHAT WILL I DO WITH MY LIFE? I should sue my parents for punitive damages.

And of course life is all about having the most pleasurable sex. Thats all thats improtatn SEX SEX SEX! The horrors SEX might feel only super amazing great instead of super duper amazing great.

I like Sex as much as the next guy(or girl) but there is also more to life then worrying that my peen may or may not give me 100% of the pleasure of some other dude. Sex feels great enough for me that I won't worry about a possible 1-10% difference. And sex isn't all that I built my entire life and existence around.

And Ron Jeremy is Jewish LOL. Not sure if that was intentional or not.

 

[DeepEnigma]

And of course life is all about having the most pleasurable sex. Thats all thats improtatn SEX SEX SEX! The horrors SEX might feel only super amazing great instead of super duper amazing great.

I like Sex as much as the next guy(or girl) but there is also more to life then worrying that my peen may or may not give me 100% of the pleasure of some other dude. Sex feels great enough for me that I won't worry about a possible 1-10% difference. And sex isn't all that I built my entire life and existence around.

And Ron Jeremy is Jewish LOL. Not sure if that was intentional or not.

And I am pretty sure he was cut too, as well as "the fountain" Peter North, lol.

 

[Kadayi]

Considering it's the first time I've ever heard such a ridiculous thing, yeah I'm pretty sure it's wrong.

How is documented history ridiculous exactly? Your ignorance of it is hardly a point of justification

Also despite your scoffing plain truth of the matter is, circumcision does have a massive impact on sensation. Having been cut as an adult I can assure you, it's a notable downgrade. You're basically going from Colour TV with surround sound to black and white in stereo. You poor bastards who were cut as kids, you've never even known colour TV.

 

[AngularSaxophone]

It's as documented as Columbus "discovering" "America" no one gives a shit about made up "facts"

 

[Kadayi]

It's as documented as Columbus "discovering" "America" no one gives a shit about made up "facts"

You've offered no counterpoint of value to the discussion so far. Do you have anything concrete to add or are you simply going to continue to amuse us with you abject denials?

 

[AngularSaxophone]

Nah I'm good. Thanks tho.

 

[off duty ninja]

You've offered no counterpoint of value to the discussion so far. Do you have anything concrete to add or are you simply going to continue to amuse us with you abject denials?

Yes, lets call him out for ignoring provided evidence...

Science. Let's not disregard science because you think it's wrong or evil because it's not. The uncut group always acts like it destroys a dong and it's incapable of performing it's task if it's cut.

 

[Kadayi]

Yes, lets call him out for ignoring provided evidence...

Whose ignoring it?

The positions of the world's major medical organizations range from considering elective circumcision of babies and children as having no benefit and significant risks to having a modest health benefit that outweighs small risks. No major medical organization recommends either universal circumcision of all males or banning the procedure.[7] Ethical and legal questions regarding informed consent and human rights have been raised over the circumcision of babies and children for non-medical reasons; for these reasons the procedure is controversial.[8][9]

Seems to tie in nicely with where a lot of people stand, that it's an unethical practice with very little necessity.

 

[cryptoadam]

Yes, lets call him out for ignoring provided evidence...

The highest quality evidence indicates that circumcision does not decrease the sensitivity of the penis, harm sexual function or reduce sexual satisfaction.[19][72][73] A 2013 systematic review found that circumcision did not appear to adversely affect sexual desire, pain with intercourse, premature ejaculation, time until ejaculation, erectile dysfunction or difficulties with orgasm. However, the study found that the existing evidence is not very good.[74] Another 2013 systematic review found that the highest-quality studies reported no adverse effects of circumcision on sexual function, sensitivity, sensation or satisfaction.[20] A 2017 systematic review and meta-analysis found that circumcision did not affect premature ejaculation.

essentially no proof that a cut peen is sexually inferior.

It seems the whole cut peens are less sensitive is just an old wives tale like you will go blind if you masturbate too much.

But nice to know a bunch of dudes are worried how sensitive my peen is.

 

[Ke0]

The idea of "uncleaniness" is such a laugh.

if that's what in the video it's easily media sensationalism at minimum and a flat out smear to make puritans look crazy at worse. The people who first came here had a greater understanding of scripture than any church today I'd wager. They surely took circumcision as a covenant and nothing else.

The people who burned women at the stake for witchcraft had a better understanding than anyone else...yea okay lol.

 

[off duty ninja]

Whose ignoring it?



Seems to tie in nicely with where a lot of people stand, that it's an unethical practice with very little necessity.

I don't see anything there that says it is unethical, except your opinion. If it were widely considered unethical I don't think this statement would be found in that same quote:

No major medical organization recommends either universal circumcision of all males or banning the procedure.

 

[off duty ninja]

essentially no proof that a cut peen is sexually inferior.

It seems the whole cut peens are less sensitive is just an old wives tale like you will go blind if you masturbate too much.

But nice to know a bunch of dudes are worried how sensitive my peen is.

I have 3 kids so apparently mine is sensitive enough.

 

[cryptoadam]

I have 3 kids so apparently mine is sensitive enough.

If you weren't cut you would have 6 kids!

 

[Kadayi]

essentially no proof that a cut peen is sexually inferior.It seems the whole cut peens are less sensitive is just an old wives tale.

I'll happily take my personal experience in knowing the difference over any number of articles that say otherwise. As is ably demonstrated by this thread there's a contingent of people out there who are more than happy to say 'it's all good!!' 'perfectly fine!!!' 'I'm not missing out on anything!!' and I dare say the same is true of Wikipedia editors as well.

I don't see anything there that says it is unethical, except your opinion. If it were widely considered unethical I don't think this statement would be found in that same quote:

JFC did you even read the Wiki page? There's a whole section on the Ethics of it on children and the lack of consent. It even has its own stub: -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_of_circumcision

If you're going to try and argue the toss, at least get your head in the game

 

[mneuro]

Circumcision is unethical. It should be a punishable offense.

 

[DeepEnigma]

essentially no proof that a cut peen is sexually inferior.

It seems the whole cut peens are less sensitive is just an old wives tale like you will go blind if you masturbate too much.

But nice to know a bunch of dudes are worried how sensitive my peen is.

Most of us guys know the most sensitive part that sometimes screws you over and makes you have to stop for a second or two, is the top side of the head which cutting has nothing to do with as far as nerve removal.

 

[off duty ninja]

I'll happily take my personal experience in knowing the difference over any number of articles that say otherwise. As is ably demonstrated by this thread there's a contingent of people out there who are more than happy to say 'it's all good!!' 'perfectly fine!!!' 'I'm not missing out on anything!!' and I dare say the same is true of Wikipedia editors as well.



JFC did you even read the Wiki page? There's a whole section on the Ethics of it on children and the lack of consent. It even has its own stub: -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_of_circumcision

If you're going to try and argue the toss, at least get your head in the game

Being controversial means that it's ethics are disputed. That is far from outright unethical in my book.

Just to be clear my opinions are strictly about male circumcision. Female genital mutilation is totally different and is not ok!

 

[Kadayi]

Being controversial means that it's ethics are disputed. That is far from outright unethical in my book.

I've never yet seen a concrete case for, and so far no one here has provided one either.

Just to be clear my opinions are strictly about male circumcision. Female genital mutilation is totally different and is not ok!

Whats with the inequality? They're both genital mutilation

 

[Dunki]

Attacking circumcision/kosher/halal is just a backdoor way of trying to own Jews and Muslims.

It's inherently anti semetic/islamaphobic

yeah it is great when you do not have to follow standards regarding animal cruelty . Just because of the excuse of religion.

 

[The Incarnation]

Galatians 6:13 For not even they themselves who are circumcised keep the law, but they desire to have you circumcised, that they may glory in your flesh.


Surprised it isn't opposed more in a so-called Christian nation.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Attacking circumcision/kosher/halal is just a backdoor way of trying to own Jews and Muslims.

It's inherently anti semetic/islamaphobic

I thought people were against it because it reduces 75% of feeling in your member and because we don't live in the desert 2000 years later. We also wash now and eat pork but I did not know it was anti jew.

 

[strange headache]

It's inherently anti semetic/islamaphobic

Or maybe it's just an outdated religious practice that has no medical merits and is based upon the whimsical existence of some magical sky daddy that probably doesn't exist. And even if he does, I'm sure that omnipotent beings have better things to do than worry about your foreskin or they would have created you without one in the first place.

According to you, any kind of reasoned criticism is some sort of phobia, you phobophobe.

No, it's either religious or chicks dig it.

Quite obviously, lots of men dig tightly sewn vaginas, but that doesn't excuse FGM.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

This is a great thread thank you gaf ppl

 

[JimmyRustler]

I love when people bring science studies as pro for circumcision when we all know it done like 99% of the time due to religion/tradition.... Come on...

 

[Lanrutcon]

People are nuts.

"Hey. I'm bored. We should like, take a knife to our children's private parts."
"Why?"
"You know. God stuff."
"Ooooh. God stuff!"
"Which bit do we cut off?"
"I dunno. Seeing as medical science is almost non-existent, let's just cut off a chunk and see if the kid lives."
"Good plan. I mean, everyone needs a hobby, right?"
*freeze frame high five*

I can't imagine the initial discussion going any other way.

 

[Alfadawg]

Or maybe it's just an outdated religious practice that has no medical merits and is based upon the whimsical existence of some magical sky daddy that probably doesn't exist. And even if he does, I'm sure that omnipotent beings have better things to do than worry about your foreskin or they would have created you without one in the first place.

According to you, any kind of reasoned criticism is some sort of phobia, you phobophobe.



Quite obviously, lots of men dig tightly sewn vaginas, but that doesn't excuse FGM.

FGM and male circumcision are two completely different things.

 

[strange headache]

FGM and male circumcision are two completely different things.

What, cutting of pieces of your genitalia for bullsh*t religious reasons? Yeah totally different things! What's next? You're also going to tell me that circumcision is like getting a haircut?

Besides, I was first and foremost trying to tell you that your absurd "chicks dig it" isn't even an argument.

 

[Alfadawg]

Or maybe it's just an outdated religious practice that has no medical merits and is based upon the whimsical existence of some magical sky daddy that probably doesn't exist. And even if he does, I'm sure that omnipotent beings have better things to do than worry about your foreskin or they would have created you without one in the first place.

According to you, any kind of reasoned criticism is some sort of phobia, you phobophobe.



Quite obviously, lots of men dig tightly sewn vaginas, but that doesn't excuse FGM.

I know you don't mean to be abusive but this post amounts to hate speech.

It's none of your business really. If people want it done, they can.

Why are you getting so worked up about it?

Like I said, attacking circumcision is backdoor attacks on Jews and Muslims.

I don't hear any men moaning about having it done.

 

[strange headache]

I know you don't mean to be abusive but this post amounts to hate speech.

 

[Zog]

No one is forcing people to get circumcisions, if you don't want your children to have one then don't give them one.

Yes, luckily it is required by law that parents get the signature of the newborn baby before cutting up his genitals. Right?

 

[Zog]

Why even cut a child's hair before they can tell you if they want it cut or not? Why do anything to your child until they can tell you?

Hair grows back, genital mutilation is permanent.

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

https://incels.me/threads/i-wish-i-had-a-foreskin.25882/

Related!

 

[Zog]

FGM and male circumcision are two completely different things.

Genital mutilation is genital mutilation, you just have a double standard to protect so you pretend that cutting up a boy's genitals is not really mutilation.

 

[Helios]

Again it's a covenant between God and his people.

Well, I'd like to thank God because he didn't decide cutting one of our fingers would be a good covenant. Otherwise we'd all have 4 fingers, nobody would question it because religion and everybody that had 5 fingers would be a pagan.

 

[DryvBy]

Galatians 6:13 For not even they themselves who are circumcised keep the law, but they desire to have you circumcised, that they may glory in your flesh.


Surprised it isn't opposed more in a so-called Christian nation.

2 Peter 3:16: "...as also in all [Paul's} his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures."

That verse you quoted doesn't mean what you think it means. Galatians was specifically addressing a people who were saying "In order to be saved, you must do X".

 

[Alfadawg]

Genital mutilation is genital mutilation, you just have a double standard to protect so you pretend that cutting up a boy's genitals is not really mutilation.

My dick isn't mutilated though. It's beautiful.

Circumcised guys are just 10k years ahead in evolution.

 

[Zog]

Well, I'd like to thank God because he didn't decide cutting one of our fingers would be a good covenant. Otherwise we'd all have 4 fingers, nobody would question it because religion and everybody that had 5 fingers would be a pagan.

Not everyone, if you were female and living in a western nation you would be protected from having a finger cut off. If you're male, well you're out of luck.

 

[Zog]

My dick isn't mutilated though. It's beautiful.

Circumcised guys are just 10k years ahead in evolution.

Whether you like it or not, it is mutilation.

 

[BANGS]

Sounds like something that should be up to the parents honestly. It's not like foreskin has an important function and people do it for health reasons as well as religious reasons. You're not gonna miss it, that's for sure...

 

[Zog]

Sounds like something that should be up to the parents honestly.

Same for newborn girls?

 

[BANGS]

Same for newborn girls?

I was unaware female circumcision even exists... If that's the case I would just follow the same logic. If it's something that's done for health and/or religious reasons, and it's not a part a reasonable person would be missing when they grow older, doesn't cause any pain, etc... then yeah sure leave it up to the parents...

 

[Straight Edge]

Circumcision involves risk like any other surgery and is unnecessary so it probably shouldn't be done

 

[Zog]

I was unaware female circumcision even exists... If that's the case I would just follow the same logic. If it's something that's done for health and/or religious reasons, and it's not a part a reasonable person would be missing when they grow older, doesn't cause any pain, etc... then yeah sure leave it up to the parents...

Well, atleast you are consistent.