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[Topher]

Famitsu didn't give it their Game of the Year; it went to Monster Hunter World and Smash Ultimate. A poll of Japanese developers, conducted by Famitsu, put Spider-Man at the top. Not the same thing.

I will concede that Spider-Man won Game of the Year awards from Wired, ShackNews, and The Verge (although I wouldn't consider any of them to be major gaming publications/sites, e.g., IGN, GameSpot, The Game Awards, etc).

So... with Marvel's Spider-Man having won three Game of the Year awards, out of dozens, do you feel Spider-Man 2, based on what we've seen so far, has a strong chance at winning enough awards to be considered the Game of the Year (a la Red Dead Redemption II/God of War 2018, Elden Ring, etc)?

Wrong. Spider-man won....

Famitsu "Super Popular Game Award 2018"

How they derived the winner is irrelevant. Spider-man was their winner.

ファミ通“超流行りゲー大賞2018”、1位は『Marvel’s スパイダーマン』！ ゲームクリエイター＆ゲーム好き著名人128人が選んだ今年一番ハマった作品 - ファミ通.com

週刊ファミ通は、2018年12月27日発売の2019年1月10・17日合併号において、2018年にゲーム業界関係者がもっともハマったゲームタイトルを選出する“超流行りゲー大賞2018”の結果を発表した。

www-famitsu-com.translate.goog

But now you want the awards to be major when previously you falsely claimed Spider-man had won none at all. And then when asked what you considered major you said...

Now you are moving the goalposts yet again?

 

[Slothbeing1209]

Insomniac's about to show everyone how it's fucking done.

Correction: It's 6 weeks old build. I heard that in other videos.

Right at the start.

 

[Cashon]

You went from none to most?

Which one is it?

When someone here says, "This will be Game of the Year," they are not generally saying, "This will be my Game of the Year," or "This will be the Game of the Year for at least one publication somewhere out there in the world." If that were the case, the phrase would be meaningless because almost every game even considered generally good would be Game of the Year, (because most of these games have at least a single person who calls it their favorite). Would you agree with this?

 

[midnightAI]

Oh? https://www.neogaf.com/threads/spider-man-2-preview-thread.1661109/post-268403131

Maybe only the screens are from 6-months ago.

I think IGN have got that wrong, other previews I have seen say 6 week old build

 

[midnightAI]

Why arguing over whether this game is game if the year or not, it's only being previewed not voted on.

 

[setoman]

Y'all can't call these bullshots anymore. This is really how the game looks. Deal with it.

And this was how Miles Morale looked...oh wait
Let me show you how bullshots are made below and yeah those are classic bullshots.

Here is a bullshot compared to the real gameplay all provided by insomniac:
look at all the added extra lighting, shadows, lens flare, glow, water fx, etc they photoshopped in.

 

[Musilla]

 

[TGO]

I'm getting this version

 

[DeepEnigma]

And this was how Miles Morale looked...oh wait
Let me show you how bullshots are made below and yeah those are classic bullshots.

Here is a bullshot compared to the real gameplay all provided by insomniac:
look at all the added extra lighting, shadows, lens flare, glow, water fx, etc they photoshopped in.

There is video of that Venom shot you call bullshot. It was in the gameplay reveal a few months ago. It had all the rain and lighting. So maybe they altered the scene or possibly it's now dynamic.

 

[midnightAI]

There is video of that Venom shot you call bullshot. It was in the gameplay reveal a few months ago. It had all the rain and lighting. So maybe they altered the scene or possibly it's now dynamic.

I think it's just different frames of the same video (I'm on my phone so can't check 100%), looks like an explosion in the background of one but not there in the other because it's different frames?

 

[8BiTw0LF]

 

[MasterCornholio]

When someone here says, "This will be Game of the Year," they are not generally saying, "This will be my Game of the Year," or "This will be the Game of the Year for at least one publication somewhere out there in the world." If that were the case, the phrase would be meaningless because almost every game even considered generally good would be Game of the Year, (because most of these games have at least a single person who calls it their favorite). Would you agree with this?

Then why even bring it up if you believe it's meaningless?

You need to stop flopping around.

Either it wins GOTY awards or it doesn't. That's what you were arguing initially.

 

[HeWhoWalks]

Wait..... so no we're back to the bullshot bullshit?

 

[Topher]

I'm getting this version

I'm getting this version....

 

[Elysium44]

Dropped 2018 spiderman after couple of hours. I doubt this much of an improvement over first

I've never even tried it, have zero interest in any sort of super hero stuff whether games or movies. I can see the games are very impressive technically and artistically so I do wonder if I might like it in spite of that. But I doubt it, they look dull to play. I'm ready to be sold on it though.

 

[setoman]

There is video of that Venom shot you call bullshot. It was in the gameplay reveal a few months ago. It had all the rain and lighting. So maybe they altered the scene or possibly it's now dynamic.

They are bullshots, its right there, clear as crystal.

None of the shots i posted above can be achieved in-game in Miles morale and neigther will they in SM2. None of them. That's because the character has hero lighting and the shots are taken with improved GI and shadow from the directional light (and even added vfx sometimes), with touch-ups from photoshop.

Then its sent out to the media to market the game.

 

[midnightAI]

Wait..... so no we're back to the bullshot bullshit?

Of course we are

 

[midnightAI]

They are bullshots, its right there, clear as crystal.

None of the shots i posted above can be achieved in-game in Miles morale and neigther will they in SM2. None of them. That's because the character has hero lighting and the shots are taken with improved GI and shadow from the directional light (and even added vfx sometimes), with touch-ups from photoshop.

Then its sent out to the media to market the game.

Err, photo mode

I mean, I can't see any extra puddles

 

[TGO]

I'm getting this version....

I have these for the first games

And Sony has fucked me with the sequels twice!

 

[RoadHazard]

I've never even tried it, have zero interest in any sort of super hero stuff whether games or movies. I can see the games are very impressive technically and artistically so I do wonder if I might like it in spite of that. But I doubt it, they look dull to play. I'm ready to be sold on it though.

The Spider-Man games are not perfect, but they certainly aren't "dull". They have some of the most fun traversal in any open world game, and really solid combat.

 

[ChiefDada]

And this was how Miles Morale looked...oh wait
Let me show you how bullshots are made below and yeah those are classic bullshots.

Damn SM2 hype has you so heated. I mean, if this guy is throwing the damn towel, that should tell you it's time to give up this silly campaign of yours.

 

[setoman]

Err, photo mode

Even in photomode you can't reproduce any of these shots. But go ahead reproduce shot 1 & 2.
Go to the same location for Pic #2 and try to reproduce and make it look as good as that picture with all the extra lighting and GI. You literally can't. Its impossible because it doesn't exist in the game.

 

[Spitfire098]

A picture I managed to capture from inside insomniac studios

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

Cheers! I'll add it to the OP.

 

[Topher]

Even in photomode you can't reproduce any of these shots. But go ahead reproduce shot 1 & 2.
Go to the same location for Pic #2 and try to reproduce and make it look as good as that picture. You literally can't. Its impossible

Wouldn't that require someone to actually have the game?

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

These Spidey 2 gifs you've been doing for the past 24h are straight up fire!

 

[DeepEnigma]

They are bullshots, its right there, clear as crystal.

None of the shots i posted above can be achieved in-game in Miles morale and neigther will they in SM2. None of them. That's because the character has hero lighting and the shots are taken with improved GI and shadow from the directional light (and even added vfx sometimes), with touch-ups from photoshop.

Then its sent out to the media to market the game.

 

[DeepEnigma]

These Spidey 2 gifs you've been doing for the past 24h are straight up fire!

Those are Bullgifs!

 

[graywolf323]

Those are Bullgifs!

and in just over a month we'll have some bull gaming footage

 

[bender]

C Cashon , reply to me in this thread if you don't have a small penis.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

Hope you are happy world, it took us getting a Spiderman game play a Superman demo.

 

[Pelta88]

I will concede that Spider-Man won Game of the Year awards from Wired, ShackNews, and The Verge (although I wouldn't consider any of them to be major gaming publications/sites, e.g., IGN, GameSpot, The Game Awards, etc).

You're trying too hard.

 

[ChiefDada]

GOTY

 

[ChiefDada]

 

[Audiophile]

One thing I always wanted in the og game was the ability to come to an immediate stop by shooting a webs out directly from the left and right; and then just hanging there, having the ability to fork from that and lower yourself down on another web, or even join the two webs and use it to walk/shimmy back and forth on. Might not be of much use but would be super-cool.

Another one would be coming up to a skybridge on a building and looping over it, then under it and so on until the web gets shorter pulling you in. Again, useless, but hella-cool.

Finally, narrow buildings with open windows on both sides that pass through apartments or hallways; that you can shoot yourself through really fast (with a variety of contextual animations ranging from barrelling through like you do on water tower legs; or just parkouring through).

So many potential areas of interactivity.

 

[bender]

They should showcase the new swinging mechanics.

 

[Kindela]

Why do people get so passive aggressive and defensive when someone calls out those screenshots as bullshots?
Gun to my head, I'd say that game will not look as good as those screenshots. It will look as good as the gifs and the videos we've seen (which is still very good), but I don't think we'll be able to replicate the screenshots.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Why do people get so passive aggressive and defensive when someone calls out those screenshots as bullshots?
Gun to my head, I'd say that game will not look as good as those screenshots. It will look as good as the gifs and the videos we've seen (which is still very good), but I don't think we'll be able to replicate the screenshots.

Those M Musilla gifs look better than those screenshots.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

I've edited the OP a bit and included all the Spidey 2 bullgifs (LOL) made by M Musilla so far. Oh and I've reached the maximum number of Twitter/YouTube embeds for the OP so there's that as well.

 

[Physiognomonics]

I'm getting this version

Soon the disc edition will be by default the limited edition.

 

[EverythingsOverrated]

The console warring over this game and Starfield has been entertaining for sure, but all I know is this game looks hella awesome and Insomniac just doesn't miss. Can't wait to see what Wolverine is like

 

[StereoVsn]

The hype is immeasurable, where's the guy who said that there's no hype? lol

Still in the other thread arguing that there is no hype.

 

[StereoVsn]

Impossible to say if the game is "GOTY material" or not at this point. We haven't played the game yet. I think that's a fundamental requirement for any such statement like GOTY.

What is this crazy talk about playing games? I thought we judge the GoY by Hype and quality of Puddles?

 

[DeceptiveAlarm]

Is this where the disingenuous discourse happened?

 

[GHG]

I mean... it's the same as people who watched literally any gameplay of Starfield and thought it would be a gamechanger. It looked and sounded like Fallout in Space, yet people were trying to call it a Game of the Year. That was clearly a case of fanboys hoping that Xbox could pull out a massive win. This is the same as that, with Sony (especially because Sony hasn't had that strong of a year).

In other words, to look at footage of the gameplay, other Game of the Year contenders, and how Game of the Year awards are usually handled... the educatedguess is that it will not be a contender. I'd love to see a compelling argument for why it seems otherwise.

I'm just leaving this here for the sake of posterity:

Personally, I think Game of the Year should be based on, contrary to what critics like to say, the sum of its parts and how well those parts will hold up over time. In that respect, Starfield should come out on top due to having more to do and see, in addition to having an actual story.

Life comes at you fast.

 

[ProtoByte]

GOTY

Right, but does the system allow for the same physics based web swinging we saw in the PS3 gen? Or are these just animations with very canned effects in gameplay?

I kinda hope this game gets a mid 80s on metacritic. It's not good enough to AssCreed the Spider-Man series.

 

[ByWatterson]

And this was how Miles Morale looked...oh wait
Let me show you how bullshots are made below and yeah those are classic bullshots.

Here is a bullshot compared to the real gameplay all provided by insomniac:
look at all the added extra lighting, shadows, lens flare, glow, water fx, etc they photoshopped in.

The puddles don't even look right shit

 

[Raonak]

The game isn't gonna look as good as those bullgifs.

Its gonna look better.

 

[fran.fernandez]

Can't wait to play this in super low setting . 15 fps on my rog ally! Amazing!

 

[StereoVsn]

If this is the kind of quality we can expect from Insomniac, Spider-Man 2 go the GOTY in the bag!