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Spielberg didn't care much for Temple of Doom did he...

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Ripclawe

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http://www.theraider.net/films/todoom/making_6_therelease.php

The film premiered in the United States on May 23, 1984. Thirteen million people happily were waiting for Indy's new venture in its first week; more than had attended Return of the Jedi in the same period the previous summer. What none expected were children fleeing out of the theaters crying and parents complaining for great violence. Moral groups complained that the horrors on show were too strong for its PG rating.

Spielberg, at first tried to defend the film by saying that "the picture is not called Temple of Roses, it is called Temple of Doom. There are parts of this film that are too intense for younger children but this is a fantasy adventure. It is the kind of violence that does not really happen and can not be perpetuated by people leaving the cinema and performing those tricks on their friends at home". Shortly, he admitted on live TV that the temple sequences, in particularly, were unsuitable for children under the age of ten. In the years to come he would admit that there was nothing personal of him in the picture and state, "Indy II will not go down in my pantheon as one of my prouder moments."

http://www.theraider.net/films/crusade/making_5_apotheosis.php

Proud for his work Spielberg stated that he made the film as an apology for Indy II, "I wanted to make a movie I could stand naked on top of."
 

demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
Raiders is far and away the best Indy movie. Spielberg is at his best when he's doing something new, and his worst when he's doing sequels.
 

xsarien

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Eh, Indy 2 certainly isn't *bad*. Not the best of the series, but certainly not something to be ashamed of.
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
I liked short round's character, especially the scene where they played poker together.
 

Cool

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Celicar said:
Temple of Doom is horrible just because of the little asian kid and that annoying bitchy woman.


Dude, SHORT ROUND rules. But, the woman in it is bitchy and annoying.
 

Ripclawe

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I have to check out Gunga din and the Secret of the incas!

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demon

I don't mean to alarm you but you have dogs on your face
COCKLES said:
Last Crusade was shit.

For once they should have listened to Lucas and done the Atlantis story.
Atlantis story??? Do tell...
 

Cool

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Yeah, I didn't like Last Crusade either. BTW whatever happend to those rumors of the fourth Indiana Jones movie? Are they still following up on that?
 
My folks took me to see Temple of Doom when I was, I guess, four. The heart ripping scared the hell out of me. I mostly just watched the back of my seat. Fuck you, Spielberg!
 

Hournda

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Why don't people like the lady from Temple of Doom? She was funny and the first 15 minutes of that film are my favorite parts from ANY Indy movie. The kid was kind of annoying as well. Overall though it was a good movie. It's supposed to be what a "typical Indiana Jones adventure" would be after they introduced the character in Raiders of the Lost Ark. My main problem with Last Crusade is they just copied Raiders of the Lost Ark and added in the Sean Connery character. While Temple of Doom probably isn't the best Indy movie it certainly is the most under-rated one.
 
Speilberg didn't think it was his best work. He wasn't comfortable with how dark the movie was. Lucas made it intentionally dark because he was going through a messy divorce at the time and got out all of his anger in the story.

I think Temple is pretty good. The opening 20 mintues and final 30 mintues or so are great filmmaking. The middle is the dull part.

I still think Raiders is the finest movie of the 3 but the two others have their moments. Last Crusade is my 2nd favorite and is Speilberg's favorite.

The next thing they should do after the Rats, Insects, and Snakes should be Piranahas
 

Cool

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What I never could understand about Temple of Doom is why he is never really introduced to the woman (I forget her name) and Short Round (Or atleast it never really shows them having a formal meeting). Yet, they stay together through this amazing long adventure through the whole movie like they are lifelong friends.
 

COCKLES

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Ford too old now to play Indiana Jones...he really does look like the emperor form ROTJ these days. Perhaps time to have Ford as a mentor to a son? With a new younger actor doing all the action and Ford handing out sage-like Indy wisdom.
 

GDGF

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I always hated Temple of Doom. The other Indy movies were much better. Hell, the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles was much better, and it didn't even have Harrison Ford (save for one episode)
 
Cool said:
What I never could understand about Temple of Doom is why he is never really introduced to the woman (I forget her name) and Short Round (Or atleast it never really shows them having a formal meeting). Yet, they stay together through this amazing long adventure through the whole movie like they are lifelong friends.

? Did you even watch it? Willie Scott is introduced in like the first 5 minutes to Indy and later Indy explains to her how he met Short Round when they break for camp in India.

Oh, and I'll watch Temple of Doom over Last Crusade every time, all the time.
 

lachesis

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I don't know. I like the raiders the best, then last crusader, and like the temple of doom the least. Of course, as a young boy, I watched ToD the most times, even not realizing that there were a better original - but I just find ToD a bit too... say 80's. ;)

lachesis
 

Celicar

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COCKLES said:
Last Crusade was shit.

For once they should have listened to Lucas and done the Atlantis story.


Is that the story from the Lucasarts Indiana Jones game? I loved that game!
 

OmniGamer

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Temple of Doom remains to this day the only Indy movie i've seen...and yes, I like it a lot. I've seen it too many times to count and it was engrained in my childhood. I was never really bothered by the violence though, i think I was already desensitized by them from Nightmare on Elm street :D. Oh, and that spoiled ass little Indian prince was more annoying than Shorty. Indy's "WE ARE GOING TO DIE!" line was pretty funny too.
 

Ghost

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Temple of doom gave me nightmares when i was a kid.

Which one was the face melting in...think it was in Lost ark and last crusade, yeah that really freaked me out too.
 
Indy's "WE ARE GOING TO DIE!" line was pretty funny too.

Not to mention the clenched fist and "DO IT NOW!"

"Or else, anything goes," as he puts the fork into Willie.

"You call him Dr. Jones, doll!"...."My professional name."

Club Obi Wan, Lao Che freight, the Dan Aykroyd cameo.....it's all great. Plus, the film has one of my favorite John Williams scores of all time, some of his best work.
 
Its got some ok moments but easily the weakest of the bunch. I've yet to watch it on my Indy DVD's. Raiders and Crusade mucho viewings though.

Also the quality of special effects is poorer. The plane crashing into the mountain as they fall in the lifeboat was always crappy looking as one example.
 

Cimarron

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"My folks took me to see Temple of Doom when I was, I guess, four. The heart ripping scared the hell out of me. I mostly just watched the back of my seat. Fuck you, Spielberg!"

Meh. Who cares if the damn story was too scary for kids? Just let the writer and director tell there damn story with out worrying about demographics. The first step to destroying a good story is asking questions like.... "Thats great but... do you think parents will let there kids see this?" To hell with the children! By the same token to hell with adults as well. I hate when execs try to make a product "teh mature" just because. BMXXX anyone?
 
I can't believe people don't like "Last Crusade." A perfect sequel.

I had the good judgment to skip "Temple" the first time around and only got around to seeing it when I bought the DVD box. Not quite as bad as legend would have you believe (my friends all panned it from day one) but still quite awful.
 

ManaByte

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Saint Cornelius said:
Some people might argue that it was "Gremlins".

No, it was specifically Temple of Doom. The outcry over the violence in the movie is what caused the MPAA to implement the PG-13 rating.
 
"The PG-13 marker was invented in response to outcry from parents after 1984's "Gremlins" and "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" received PG ratings. The latter film features a scene in which the villain removes a victim's beating heart, and "Gremlins" put its pint-size villains in blenders. Since then, PG-13 has gained momentum as a populist marker, dominating the list of films grossing over $200 million, among them "Titanic," "Independence Day" and "Jurassic Park." - from rec.arts.movies.past-films Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)


Also, Red Dawn was the first flick to get the PG-13.
 

Vicious

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The Last Crusade is my favorite, followed by Raiders. Though that doesn't mean I don't like Temple of Doom, I just like the others better.

It's all Indy, so it's all good.
 
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