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[phrenal]

When a handful of screenshots of the game were leaked online recently, players had trouble determining which version of the game they were from. Given the less-than-impressive standards that have been set for next-gen games by certain Xbox 360 titles, some fans believed the screens were from the Xbox 360 version of the game, despite looking extremely similar in quality to the Xbox version of Splinter Cell Chaos Theory. According to Roy, those screens are actually from the PlayStation 2 version of the game. "It's great to see our PS2 screenshots look as good as an X360 game, but when you see the SC4 X360 screenshots, you'll notice the difference, trust me... the Chaos Theory engine has indeed given us a great head start; on the X360 hardware, we've been having a great time finding new ways to make it sing," he says.

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3146357&did=1

 

[Tech Nine]

Wow

 

[Red Blaster]

I'm starting to think the PS2 will be the most powerful console ever.

 

[crunker99]

doesn t show any of the "leaked" shots that we think are next gen though.. we all knew those were this gen

if they are referring to the GI scans

 

[PhatSaqs]

So where are the 360 screens?

 

[boredJonathan]

Just got my Game Informer in the mail yesterday and I must say I notice very little difference between these shots posted at 1UP and the images in the magazine. A couple of them definately stand out as next gen... Maybe I am just more shocked with the quality they are getting out of the current gen software?

Either way this is a day one purchase for me sight unseen. I've loved every SC game so far, (even Pandora Tomorrow!), and these changes to the story line sound like good times for the game play.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

Wait, wait, hold up, the first leaked screenshots we argued over being either Xbox or Xbox360 were PS2 pics?! Holy sh*t!!

 

[jj984jj]

Wow, looks great.

 

[anachronous_one]

"It's great to see our PS2 screenshots look as good as an X360 game, but when you see the SC4 X360 screenshots, you'll notice the difference, trust me...

I'm not sure if that's meant as an insult to the platform (X360), other devs who have released games for the platform (X360), or both. :lol

 

[Akia]

Wait, wait, hold up, the first leaked screenshots we argued over being either Xbox or Xbox360 were PS2 pics?! Holy sh*t!!

:lol

 

[bishoptl]

I'm starting to think the PS2 will be the most powerful console ever.

I welcome our Sony overlords

 

[Shompola]

I'm not sure if that's meant as an insult to the platform (X360), other devs who have released games for the platform (X360), or both. :lol

Not an insult at all. Just replying to the people who thought that the screenshots were bad for an xbox 360 game.

 

[crunker99]

ALL of these 1up shots are from current-gen versions. They state that they have to wait before seeing the first shots of the 360 version.

those 1up shots, unless i am smoking serious crack, are not the ones we originally argued over at all

in fact i know it isnt

remeber?

the one in the rain, the one in the mirroe

i cant post cause GI head asked me to take down but u can find them if u look.. we never htought the orange jumpsuit ones were next gen we knew those werent

 

[Willy Wanka]

Man, if those were PS2 pics then I really can't wait to see what the next gen version looks like.

 

[:Motorbass]

Ow, Revolution version would be awesome online.

 

[Razoric]

Ow, Revolution version would be awesome online.

Eh? Some of you are just reaching now. :lol

 

[WHOAguitarninja]

Wait...those were PS2 pics??????????

WHAT!?

I think the the splinter cell team must write in some new language that runs twice as fast as everything else out there, because if I had not been told otherwise, I would have NEVER beleived those were ps2 shots.

 

[HomerSimpson-Man]

Wait...those were PS2 pics??????????

WHAT!?

I think the the splinter cell team must write in some new language that runs twice as fast as everything else out there, because if I had not been told otherwise, I would have NEVER beleived those were ps2 shots.

Yeah seriously. How the hell?! Montreal team iis damn good!!

 

[Smokey]

Wow PS2 shots being mistakened for 360 shots :lol . There is PLENTY of juice left in LAST-GEN obviously.

 

[Mrbob]

Wow PS2 shots being mistakened for 360 shots :lol . There is PLENTY of juice left in LAST-GEN obviously.

Or MS have crushed our expectations of what to expect next gen.

 

[sangreal]

Wow PS2 shots being mistakened for 360 shots :lol . There is PLENTY of juice left in LAST-GEN obviously.

Noone mistook PS2 shots for 360 shots, and these aren't even the same shots from GI.

 

[eso76]

those 1up shots, unless i am smoking serious crack, are not the ones we originally argued over at all

in fact i know it isnt

remeber?

the one in the rain, the one in the mirroe

No, they're not the same but this one for example
http://www.1up.com/media?id=2560794&type=lg
is very close to those pics, could definately be the same game.

A couple other pics are much worse though, so i don't know what to think

 

[Ranger X]

Reality is many people are having a hard time "reading" screenshots.
Those were indeed PS2 and looked quite PS2ish.

Another is indeed that most 360 games just does NOT look next-gen (i've said this thousand times, maybe this whole situation here is people starting to realise it's true.)

When you think next-gen graphics, don't even think PDZ or PGR2, start at Gears of Wars.

 

[crunker99]

No, they're not the same but this one for example
http://www.1up.com/media?id=2560794&type=lg
is very close to those pics, could definately be the same game.

A couple other pics are much worse though, so i don't know what to think

i dont wanan start a thing here but those shots are not even close to the next gen ones we were talking about come on now that one with sam in the room with the tiles pointing a gun at the kneeling guy's head?

everyone removed it or id show you

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

Just got my Game Informer in the mail yesterday and I must say I notice very little difference between these shots posted at 1UP and the images in the magazine.

Get a new set of eyes.

 

[VictimOfGrief]

Get a new set of eyes.

2nd.

The 360 shots are most likely going to look along the lines of Gears of War.

 

[eso76]

i dont wanan start a thing here but those shots are not even close to the next gen ones we were talking about come on now that one with sam in the room with the tiles pointing a gun at the kneeling guy's head?

everyone removed it or id show you

Not everyone
Yeah, actually that's the one i was referring to too, but after looking at it again..yep, it doesn't look like the same version anymore i wouldn't say not even close, though
(edit2) of course, considering it's a scan-screenshot comparison of different scenes.

edit: but one thing is sure, either that scan we're talking about is some kind of concept art or it most definately is next gen. No programming trick could produce those results on current hardwares.

 

[deadhorse32]

i dont wanan start a thing here but those shots are not even close to the next gen ones we were talking about come on now that one with sam in the room with the tiles pointing a gun at the kneeling guy's head?

everyone removed it or id show you

you are talking about the recent GI scan, the ubisoft guy is talking about older leaked pics

 

[crunker99]

you are talking about the recent GI scan, the ubisoft guy is talking about older leaked pics

that would make more sense but some in this thread ARE talking about the GI shots

 

[raYne]

you are talking about the recent GI scan, the ubisoft guy is talking about older leaked pics

I don't even remember what the "old leaked pics" looked like, not to mention the supposed dispute over them. :lol

As for the GI scan to these 1up pics issue... they don't look similar at all whether they're compared via build, system or cross generation...

 

[deadhorse32]

Ok found it http://img1.yoxio.com/img/208907.jpg <- People thought those were X360 pics at first then Xbox. Now the ubisoft guy affirm they are PS2 pics


ps Since this is an old scan. I hope there is no problem posting it

 

[Redbeard]

So it uses the chaos theory engine? :/

Not that it's bad looking, but I was hoping it would use UE3 or something built from the ground up for next-gen.

 

[Xrenity]

wtf @ those being PS2 screens o_0

 

[SolidSnakex]

I don't even remember what the "old leaked pics" looked like, not to mention the supposed dispute over them. :lol

The old leaked pics are the ones in the orange prison suit.

 

[raYne]

The old leaked pics are the ones in the orange prison suit.

Yeah, I saw Milhouse's post. Thanks.

Ok found it http://img1.yoxio.com/img/208907.jpg

Not too bad. They certainly look better than the 1up pics though, even if the scan isn't too good...

The scans should be ok since it's not an english mag. It was allowed the first time right?

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

wtf @ those being PS2 screens o_0

I'm honestly not sure I buy it. Xbox shots, sure. But I've seen the PS2 versions of SC, and this leap seems pretty damned unrealistic.

 

[teiresias]

Ok found it http://img1.yoxio.com/img/208907.jpg

Not too bad, they certainly look better than the 1up pics though...

OK, wait, the scanned pics at that link are supposed to be PS2 screens? I find that rather hard to believe. The 1up pics are more believable as PS2 screens (it doesn't help that when you're looking at the 1up pics it says (Xbox360) in big letters right above it though - great work in clearing the confusion up guys!! :lol )

 

[AbeFroman]

ALL of these 1up shots are from current-gen versions. They state that they have to wait before seeing the first shots of the 360 version.

All of the assets in GI's Jan. issue were from the 360 version.

 

[jedimike]

I'm loving this. People can't distinguish PS2 from Xbox or even 360. Features. Features. Features. That is what the next gen consoles are about. Sure graphics will look better... but not immensely better. I just want to know what Double Agent 360 offers that won't be available on PS2 or Xbox... besides graphics.

 

[Raiden]

I'm loving this. People can't distinguish PS2 from Xbox or even 360. Features. Features. Features. That is what the next gen consoles are about. Sure graphics will look better... but not immensely better. I just want to know what Double Agent 360 offers that won't be available on PS2 or Xbox... besides graphics.

Yeah just wait until you actually play it on PS2, christ you'll know the difference...

 

[crunker99]

Yeah just wait until you actually play it on PS2, christ you'll know the difference...

agreed

 

[raYne]

Yeah just wait until you actually play it on PS2, christ you'll know the difference...

:lol

 

[Foil]

Another is indeed that most 360 games just does NOT look next-gen (i've said this thousand times, maybe this whole situation here is people starting to realise it's true.)

When you think next-gen graphics, don't even think PDZ or PGR2, start at Gears of Wars.

PGR3 laughs at your post.

 

[AltogetherAndrews]

Sure graphics will look better... but not immensely better..

Have you actually seen the X360 screens?

 

[jedimike]

Yeah just wait until you actually play it on PS2, christ you'll know the difference...

I totally agree. It's just that we've been so accustomed to judging games from screens. As unfair as it is, we do it. The reality is that screens will improve marginially this gen and the things that will make a game great, you aren't going to see with a screenshot.

The difference in gameplay from PS2 to 360 will be huge... the screens will not portray that.

 

[PhatSaqs]

Another is indeed that most 360 games just does NOT look next-gen (i've said this thousand times, maybe this whole situation here is people starting to realise it's true.)

You're clearly suffering from what alot of people here are. You're comparing launch games to games/"built to spec" DEMOS we've seen that arent due for another 1-2 years and using those to define your next-gen.

 

[Ranger X]

PGR3 laughs at your post.

It's good looking but extremely "first year" imo. You have the right to think it's good looking you know, in fact it is. But you can expect quite alot more for next-gen.

 

[Ranger X]

You're clearly suffering from what alot of people here are. You're comparing launch games to games/"built to spec" DEMOS we've seen that arent due for another 1-2 years and using those to define your next-gen.

What is "next-gen looking" to me means probably the games that will be there in the last 3 years of 5 years cycle we are used to. The 2 first years do not always push the best games and graphics and devellopers aren't used to the new hardware yet.

 

[jedimike]

Have you actually seen the X360 screens?

No, but I have seen screens that damn near mirror reality on the 360 (MotoGP 2006). When you compare that nearly perfect MotoGP screen to a real picture, it's hard to tell the difference. When you put that same screen up against the new PS2 Polyphony MotoGP game, it doesn't look that much better.

Basically, I am really starting to believe Nintendo when they talk about diminishing returns. There is truth to that statement.

 

[boredJonathan]

Get a new set of eyes.

Thanks for the suggestion.

This looks hardly different from the similar shot in GI. Perhaps a bit more detail on the hostage. Maybe a few more polys thrown around, but hardly a generational difference. Calm down, though because they both looks impressive.

Sheesh, these boards have become so caustic lately. The game looks phenominal in the shots released, for whatever platform they are supposedly running on. There. Is that plain enough? I'm not bashing the game. Nor the system, be it PS2, XBox 360, or orignal XBox.

:: Sigh ::