Haven't seen it, it's not like after Clannad, which wasn't terrible but nothing great either, that I felt some impetus to go out and seek all of their back catalog.A Black Falcon said:You haven't watched Kanon? Or did you not dislike it?
But Last Exile wasn't really complex or had a lot going on. I dunno, I guess I have a hard time believing that someone who'd put forth the effort and time to watch Last Exile, which I'd put as somewhere around the teen level of my made up on the spot recommended viewing age scale, would at the same time lack the facilities to properly keep up with it, I figured those people would have been watching Air Master that season.A Black Falcon said:But lots of stuff was going on, having recaps helps when you've got a complex show with a lot going on... sure, sometimes they might be a little annoying, but not always. I don't remember having a problem with them in Last Exile.
I would use it as a ringtone somehow if I could find it at a decent quality. No lie.Lain said:I didn't want to join a side, but this just forces me to pick the Iroha side.
MC moves back to a village with his little brother where he spent his childhood. Has memories of a girl he promised to be friends with forever during the train ride there. Accidentally kisses a girl and the very girl he made that childhood promise to witnesses this although they don't know of each others' identity yet in Episode 1. Little brother is more moe than the heroines. Nothing noteworthy besides that except the few penis size jokes ever so slightly. It's a harem anime by the textbook.A Black Falcon said:What kind of harem show is it? Anything worth watching about it at all?
That's nuts.flawfuls said:We may need an OT2 just for spring. :lol
You should probably just turn off your computer if you can't resist such powerful urges.jman2050 said:God I always planned on staying away from /a/ and then Madoka happened and then I was linked to their Madoka threads and now I can't stop oh god help me someone please.
All I can see are stars....trejo said:Yeah I still can't figure out what's going on there.
Mhm, delightful.duckroll said:It's not another word for gore, it's another word for gross. That's the root of your misunderstanding. The actual act of violence has nothing to do with it, but rather what is graphically depicted. The detailed sight of guts and shit lying on the ground is not just "gore" anymore. It's just sick shit.
How about you just shut your mouthLegatoB said:Takeshi Koike's REDLINE!
This movie is life-changing. It is everything you have heard and more. If you don't leave the theater with your mouth sore from 100 straight minutes of grinning and cackling, you might as well go jump into traffic right then and there. ALL PRAISE MADHOUSE
I've always felt that CLANNAD was the weakest of the Key KyoAni VN adaptations. Sure, it was more focused, but what it focused on was utterly uninteresting and pretty boring. Air (loving a retard and SELLING it) and Kannon (fuck yeah metaphysical bullshit representing their need to overcome emotional hardship!) were both much better I felt and did much better work with making you FEEL for the characters. CLANNAD was basically driven by some girl being intentionally dense and emo to those around her. Sunohara was the best damned thing in that show.mAcOdIn said:Haven't seen it, it's not like after Clannad, which wasn't terrible but nothing great either, that I felt some impetus to go out and seek all of their back catalog.
Yeah, this thread seems to like to skirt with the dark side of the animation frame... I don't mind, as long as it doesn't get into creepy self-pandering and netflirting over that shit.And congrats for the thread going in a direction not even I dare venture towards, luckily it's settled back down.
It's odd, people are talking about anime for some reason.mAcOdIn said:------------------------------------------------------------------
And congrats for the thread going in a direction not even I dare venture towards, luckily it's settled back down.
doomed1 said:I honestly don't see why, it's just a basic population model as applied to Madoka Magical Girls. It's just someone had too much time on their hands and an ecology book.
The whole foundation is troll physics anyway, so it's not like it matters or anything.
That may be but I still don't see Air or Kannon being something I just need to see so I'm not gonna seek them out.doomed1 said:I've always felt that CLANNAD was the weakest of the Key KyoAni VN adaptations. Sure, it was more focused, but what it focused on was utterly uninteresting and pretty boring. Air (loving a retard and SELLING it) and Kannon (fuck yeah metaphysical bullshit representing their need to overcome emotional hardship!) were both much better I felt and did much better work with making you FEEL for the characters. CLANNAD was basically driven by some girl being intentionally dense and emo to those around her. Sunohara was the best damned thing in that show.
I'm all good until lolis show up.doomed1 said:Yeah, this thread seems to like to skirt with the dark side of the animation frame... I don't mind, as long as it doesn't get into creepy self-pandering and netflirting over that shit.
Yeah, this thread used to be cool.Dresden said:It's odd, people are talking about anime for some reason.
trejo said:Deadman Wonderland 1
10 minutes in and I'm having a hard time suspending my disbelief. For some reason this just comes off as fucking stupid.
hosannainexcelsis said:I'm still not sure why you're so ticked off at Madoka's excuse physics, given how fantastical the whole premise is anyway. Would it have made you feel better if instead of entropy they just said the universe needed magic fairy dust instead?
But if you're so into physics, have you seen Noein?
That's fine. Just informing you so that you don't judge Kanon and Air by Clannad's standard.mAcOdIn said:That may be but I still don't see Air or Kannon being something I just need to see so I'm not gonna seek them out.
Actually, yeah, because even if they DID say they wanted to prevent the heat death of the universe, they could just create some arbitrary heat collector device to gather dispersing heat energy for their purposes. A sort of "the universe needs more magical energy" would have been more internally consistent, wouldn't have required a very significant explanation (because a wizard did it), and I feel that Madoka's metaphysical consistency otherwise is pretty solid so it would make sense in the larger universe.hosannainexcelsis said:I'm still not sure why you're so ticked off at Madoka's excuse physics, given how fantastical the whole premise is anyway. Would it have made you feel better if instead of entropy they just said the universe needed magic fairy dust instead?
But if you're so into physics, have you seen Noein?
doomed1 said:science is something that's consistent in an external system, and thus when put through its literary paces must match that external system's consistency because that's the system the audience exists in. Madoka fails to do this and thus fails.
Really anyone defending this is crazy. There was no need to combine real science and magic. It was completely unnecessary and fairly stupid.doomed1 said:Y'see, that's the difference between metaphysics and science. Metaphysics you can pretty much make up on the fly, even let it contradict itself as long as it's a graceful contradiction. Meanwhile, science is something that's consistent in an external system, and thus when put through its literary paces must match that external system's consistency because that's the system the audience exists in. Madoka fails to do this and thus fails.
Bah, Kanon's way better than Clannad. You should try it.mAcOdIn said:Haven't seen it, it's not like after Clannad, which wasn't terrible but nothing great either, that I felt some impetus to go out and seek all of their back catalog.
Why do the previews bother you so much? Is it really such a big deal? I think you're overstating their importance...But Last Exile wasn't really complex or had a lot going on. I dunno, I guess I have a hard time believing that someone who'd put forth the effort and time to watch Last Exile, which I'd put as somewhere around the teen level of my made up on the spot recommended viewing age scale, would at the same time lack the facilities to properly keep up with it, I figured those people would have been watching Air Master that season.
I'll watch more of it eventually, I'm not abandoning the show.Hurry up and finish 12 Kingdoms instead of looking for a new harem show!
Yeah, of Key animes, Angel Beats > Kanon > Air > Clannad. Clannad's just not as interesting as the others. Angel Beats and Kanon I really liked, each in their own way. I thought Air wasn't as good as Kanon (a bit too depressing...), but Clannad's weaker than that.doomed1 said:I've always felt that CLANNAD was the weakest of the Key KyoAni VN adaptations. Sure, it was more focused, but what it focused on was utterly uninteresting and pretty boring. Air (loving a retard and SELLING it) and Kannon (fuck yeah metaphysical bullshit representing their need to overcome emotional hardship!) were both much better I felt and did much better work with making you FEEL for the characters. CLANNAD was basically driven by some girl being intentionally dense and emo to those around her. Sunohara was the best damned thing in that show.
Anime does this to people, I guess...Yeah, this thread seems to like to skirt with the dark side of the animation frame... I don't mind, as long as it doesn't get into creepy self-pandering and netflirting over that shit.
You should, though. Again, Clannad is not representative of the quality of Air or Kanon (either version).mAcOdIn said:That may be but I still don't see Air or Kannon being something I just need to see so I'm not gonna seek them out.
Really? Too bad, I thought Noein was really good... it's one of the better sci-fi animes of its kind, certainly. Good, interesting story, good characters, and more. Sure the story was really complex, thanks to it involving both interdimensional travel AND time travel, but still, very good show.doomed1 said:And no, I haven't seen Noein, or at least all of it. The animation wasn't very appealing to me and the story sorta dragged. It put me to sleep a couple of times, so I returned the box set to my friend.
And around half a page was about anime, so it was a good day overall.Branduil said:Did you guys seriously go through 16 pages today?
In before "8 pages durr."
I liked how Air ended up NOT having the standard "true love" kind of ending that Kanon had and instead just ended up being about MisuzuA Black Falcon said:Yeah, of Key animes, Angel Beats > Kanon > Air > Clannad. Clannad's just not as interesting as the others. Angel Beats and Kanon I really liked, each in their own way. I thought Air wasn't as good as Kanon (a bit too depressing...), but Clannad's weaker than that.
Eh, the pacing just didn't really catch me, and inter-dimensional AND time travel is usually a bad idea... Part of why that Star Trek: Enterprise series sucked sometimes.Really? Huh, I thought Noein was really good... it's one of the better sci-fi animes of its kind, certainly. Good, interesting story, good characters, and more. Sure the story was really complex, thanks to it involving both interdimensional travel AND time travel, but still, very good show.
I think you're missing what I'm trying to say...Uchip said:really? do you want to do a critical analysis of Lord of the fucking Rings next?
A Black Falcon said:Yeah, of Key animes, Angel Beats > Kanon > Air > Clannad. Clannad's just not as interesting as the others. Angel Beats and Kanon I really liked, each in their own way. I thought Air wasn't as good as Kanon (a bit too depressing...), but Clannad's weaker than that.
I'd have to lose a bet or some shit I'm not doing it on my own.A Black Falcon said:Bah, Kanon's way better than Clannad. You should try it.
Previews aren't recaps! Like I said, get rid of all the recaps in a 26 episode series and you've got another episode or two of time to play with, time that Last Exile's ending could have really used, not that Gonzo would have known what to do with that time anyways but still.A Black Falcon said:Why do the previews bother you so much? Is it really such a big deal? I think you're overstating their importance...
Good, good, still, hurry up and get to the good Youko.A Black Falcon said:I'll watch more of it eventually, I'm not abandoning the show.
Wait, Angel Beats is their high? Their peak? Oh fuck no, not a chance in hell I'm going to watch Kannon then.A Black Falcon said:Yeah, of Key animes, Angel Beats > Kanon > Air > Clannad. Clannad's just not as interesting as the others. Angel Beats and Kanon I really liked, each in their own way. I thought Air wasn't as good as Kanon (a bit too depressing...), but Clannad's weaker than that.
Not after it being stated that Angel Beats was better.A Black Falcon said:You should, though. Again, Clannad is not representative of the quality of Air or Kanon (either version).
Why is it never a good sign when someone tells me to watch an anime?Jexhius said:Deadman Wonderland 1
This opening was kind of...excruciating? I don't know how else to describe it. The set-up/backstory at the start of the episode was one of the hardest pieces of nonsense a show has ever tried to sell me on and at no point did the story even bother to persuade me that it made sense (bar some throwaway dialogue). Perhaps this was the worst part of the episode.
At least it makes all the stuff that comes afterwards seem slightly less awful than it is, even if they are pulling from all the anime tropes they can muster. It's like a fourteen year old's version of what a "badass" story would be.
I'm sure Branduil should experience this masterpiece.
doomed1 said:I think you're missing what I'm trying to say...
JKTrix said:At least AnoHana actually seems somewhat interesting, even if I'm having a negative reaction to how I feel it's going to try and be emotionally manipulative.
It already has. Absolutely.icarus-daedelus said:It's already gone there, I think, although it wasn't jerking tears too hard yet. It's only episode one, after all!
I didn't so much mind thatdoomed1 said:I liked how Air ended up NOT having the standard "true love" kind of ending that Kanon had and instead just ended up being about Misuzu. Though Kanon did make me cryand her slow descent into mental disfunction, so it gets points for that. Overall, I like Kanon more, but Air had some fantastic ideas about it. Haven't finished Angel Beats yet, but I wouldn't put it on the same list as the rest. It's just a different kind of show...joyful bitch tears
I agree, having both of those things can sometimes be a bad idea, but in Noein's case, it works. The twists and turns of the story, and the different worlds, is both interesting and very well done. Noein's pretty good.Eh, the pacing just didn't really catch me, and inter-dimensional AND time travel is usually a bad idea... Part of why that Star Trek: Enterprise series sucked sometimes.
Oh well, but if you do watch it I'd definitely be interested to see if you liked it or not.mAcOdIn said:I'd have to lose a bet or some shit I'm not doing it on my own.
You're just overstating a point that isn't necessarily even bad.Previews aren't recaps! Like I said, get rid of all the recaps in a 26 episode series and you've got another episode or two of time to play with, time that Last Exile's ending could have really used, not that Gonzo would have known what to do with that time anyways but still.
After this sidestory arc it gets to that, right?Good, good, still, hurry up and get to the good Youko.
Angel Beats was my second favorite anime of 2010, though, after Sora no Woto, remember.Wait, Angel Beats is their high? Their peak? Oh fuck no, not a chance in hell I'm going to watch Kannon then.
Angel Beats isn't really like their other series; I do think it's their best, but it's also different, most obviously by not being a harem show, but also in the general style and layout of the series. Kanon and Air are quite different in some ways, but still they are more similar than either is to Angel Beats. Even so though, there are some things that tie them all together as being in the Key style, such as the often sad plotlines. But each is different. Each of the four has its own fans who like it the best, I'm sure...Not after it being stated that Angel Beats was better.
That's getting into meta-narrative (one that quite well stays on the right side of the uncanny valley) while I'm talking about the narrative narrative. That kind of misrepresentation of science in what is understood as a normal "human" environment, albeit with "A Wizard Did It" elements, is on the wrong side of the uncanny valley. It's dumb, contrived, and while it might easily fool those who don't remember their grade school science courses, it could have been done a thousand different ways that would have made sense with the consistency of the metaphysical narrative and/or consistency with ACTUAL science. Like Jexhius said, there's no reason for that mix. It's just bad writing.Uchip said:no
thing is, you are watching a medium where the human characters eyeballs would be taking up the majority of their cranium, they all act like psychotic outpatients and trolling physics with their every move yet somehow a supernatural cabbit explaining to a little magic girl why hes fucking with them using a twisted version of thermodynamics is somehow effecting your ssupension of disbelief?
to me that just sounds like some kind of pretentious intellectual debauchery that has no place in anime.
doomed1 said:I've always felt that CLANNAD was the weakest of the Key KyoAni VN adaptations. Sure, it was more focused, but what it focused on was utterly uninteresting and pretty boring. Air (loving a retard and SELLING it) and Kannon (fuck yeah metaphysical bullshit representing their need to overcome emotional hardship!) were both much better I felt and did much better work with making you FEEL for the characters. CLANNAD was basically driven by some girl being intentionally dense and emo to those around her. Sunohara was the best damned thing in that show.
doomed1 said:Actually, yeah, because even if they DID say they wanted to prevent the heat death of the universe, they could just create some arbitrary heat collector device to gather dispersing heat energy for their purposes. A sort of "the universe needs more magical energy" would have been more internally consistent, wouldn't have required a very significant explanation (because a wizard did it), and I feel that Madoka's metaphysical consistency otherwise is pretty solid so it would make sense in the larger universe.
Y'see, that's the difference between metaphysics and science. Metaphysics you can pretty much make up on the fly, even let it contradict itself as long as it's a graceful contradiction. Meanwhile, science is something that's consistent in an external system, and thus when put through its literary paces must match that external system's consistency because that's the system the audience exists in. Madoka fails to do this and thus fails.
doomed1 said:And no, I haven't seen Noein, or at least all of it. The animation wasn't very appealing to me and the story sorta dragged. It put me to sleep a couple of times, so I returned the box set to my friend.
There's really no need, I'm sure I wouldn't like it.A Black Falcon said:Oh well, but if you do watch it I'd definitely be interested to see if you liked it or not.
Says the person who thinks he understands Last Exile's ending but doesn't even knowA Black Falcon said:You're just overstating a point that isn't necessarily even bad.
Episodes 23-39 is the rest of Youko's story, 40 is the resolution of a character's story introduced in that arc that's also good and then 41 through 45 are really about the King of En and not as good, at least to me.A Black Falcon said:After this sidestory arc it gets to that, right?
I was going to laugh at this and bring up this list of shows that was way better but after looking up 2010 I'll let you slide. There were shows I thought were technically better but I think I'd have to, gasp, say Sora no Woto was my show of 2010. I know, I don't like typing either it guys but the other shows were even less my thing.A Black Falcon said:Angel Beats was my second favorite anime of 2010, though, after Sora no Woto, remember.
Oh that's a given, I know of their origins and expect them to all be more alike than Angel Beats but as a whole, if they're objectively not as good as Angel Beats which I thought sucked, I hate harems, I hate dating games and I hate animes based of harems, dating games or both there's essentially no chance I'll like them.A Black Falcon said:Angel Beats isn't really like their other series; I do think it's their best, but it's also different, most obviously by not being a harem show, but also in the general style and layout of the series. Kanon and Air are quite different in some ways, but still they are more similar than either is to Angel Beats. Even so though, there are some things that tie them all together as being in the Key style, such as the often sad plotlines. But each is different. Each of the four has its own fans who like it the best, I'm sure...
No, it's Okazaki that's basically dense and emo, everyone else was also emo but not so dense.hosannainexcelsis said:Is that really how the Clannad anime is? That's unfortunate, considering that the Clannad VN is leagues better than the Air and Kanon anime adaptations.
Clearly, you're both going to hell! Yeah, they have one for opinions now. This universe is harsh.mAcOdIn said:I was going to laugh at this and bring up this list of shows that was way better but after looking up 2010 I'll let you slide. There were shows I thought were technically better but I think I'd have to, gasp, say Sora no Woto was my show of 2010. I know, I don't like typing either it guys but the other shows were even less my thing.
Deadman Wonderland, for starters.Renmei said:4 hours until Deadman wonderland is done, damn you Iraqi internet, be less shitty~
I've enjoyes Iroha, AnoHana and C so far. Any other standout shows so far and what should I avoid so I can stop wasting bandwidth~
This is a nightmare.Regulus Tera said:
Now since I sin less will my stay in hell be better or will it be worse since I know what a grave sin it is to like Sora no Woto? Hmm????Jexhius said:Clearly, you're both going to hell!
Avoid, the stuff on Crunchyroll that isn't Iroha, so skip Sket-Dance, Steins:Gate, My Ordinary Life(Nichijou - also the people who like this are crazy), We, Without Wings(Ore-tachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai ), Astarotte's Toy, A Bridge to the Starry Skies(Hoshizora e Kakaru Hashi), The World God Only Knows, Sekai Ichi Hatsukoi and Battle Girls - Time Paradox, that's a solid list of skippers(no not sea faring boat captains) right there.Renmei said:4 hours until Deadman wonderland is done, damn you Iraqi internet, be less shitty~
I've enjoyes Iroha, AnoHana and C so far. Any other standout shows so far and what should I avoid so I can stop wasting bandwidth~
If it's a good show it should have it's own OP, which will survive based on how popular the show is. Tiger and Bunny definitely deserves one, even if I feel Deadman Wonderland does not.cosmicblizzard said:Man, do we really have 8 dedicated OTs this season? Crazy. Still need one for Tiger & Bunny, Toriko, and maybe Blue Exorcist.
Recognition is the first step towards purification.mAcOdIn said:Now since I sin less will my stay in hell be better or will it be worse since I know what a grave sin it is to like Sora no Woto? Hmm????
I don't know if we need more OPs that'll just be ignored. None of the ones made this season will get more than 200 or so posts.cosmicblizzard said:Man, do we really have 8 dedicated OTs this season? Crazy. Still need one for Tiger & Bunny, Toriko, and maybe Blue Exorcist.
There's always Dororon Enma-kun.Renmei said:4 hours until Deadman wonderland is done, damn you Iraqi internet, be less shitty~
I've enjoyes Iroha, AnoHana and C so far. Any other standout shows so far and what should I avoid so I can stop wasting bandwidth~
I see one for AnoHana, X-men, Enma-kun, Kaiji and Hanasaku Iroha. Which are the other three?cosmicblizzard said:Man, do we really have 8 dedicated OTs this season? Crazy. Still need one for Tiger & Bunny, Toriko, and maybe Blue Exorcist.
doomed1 said:That's getting into meta-narrative (one that quite well stays on the right side of the uncanny valley) while I'm talking about the narrative narrative. That kind of misrepresentation of science in what is understood as a normal "human" environment, albeit with "A Wizard Did It" elements, is on the wrong side of the uncanny valley. It's dumb, contrived, and while it might easily fool those who don't remember their grade school science courses, it could have been done a thousand different ways that would have made sense with the consistency of the metaphysical narrative and/or consistency with ACTUAL science. Like Jexhius said, there's no reason for that mix. It's just bad writing.
trejo said:I see one for AnoHana, X-men, Enma-kun, Kaiji and Hanasaku Iroha. Which are the other three?