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DNAbro

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MetroidPrimeRib said:
The Laughing Salesman New 12 END



I would like to say first and foremost - fuck this show. Don't watch it. Its mean spirited, morally empty and without a message.

You know anthology shows like The Twilight Zone or Alfred Hitchcock Presents usually give a scenario where you are waiting for a character to "get theirs" or to see where a single mistake can lead you. The setups and endings are different - you could be following a character you want to see succeed or one you want to see fail, and the supernatural aspects they sometimes encounter vary wildly and the shows make good use of plot twists to throw you off the trail.

The issue with The Laughing Salesman is that it does none of that. Let me explain to you every single episode - every single story, of which there are two in each episode - of The Laughing Salesman.


  1. All people in this world - young and old, male and female - are lonely at heart. My name is Moguro, they call me the Laughing Salesman but I'm no ordinary salesman I deal in peoples hearts, oh no I don't need a single yen the best thing is to see the face of a satisfied customer
  2. Introducing our Japanese worker bee who will be ruined for no reason, ****-san
  3. Something goes wrong
  4. Moguro appears and does his shtick then gives them a device that solves the issue, warning them that if they misuse it or use it to much there will be consequences. Or sometimes he causes the issue himself?
  5. Heres where you might see some variation! The customer either misuses it or is led into scenarios where they have to use it.
  6. PUNISHMENT TIME DOOOOOOOOM
  7. Uneven punishments that usually don't fit the scale of the crime or have an ironic Sisyphean nature to them

And thats it. The issue is that the show never bothers to stray from these tight confines. It is usually not a fulfilling show to watch either, as good people - some who Moguro purposefully creates a situation for them to be trapped into so he can punish them for misusing something he gave them to solve the problem he made - get punished through no fault of their own and for no moral reason. There are stories where the person is pretty shitty and gets whats coming, but I can't think of a single one where they would have ended up at that point without Moguro.

So is the issue that its far too depressing, bleak, pessimistic and fatalistic? Yeah a little bit. But I think the issue is more along the lines of the show just being not very good. Aside from the strong visual direction (aside from flashing to pictures of Hell all the time. Stop doing that its the opposite of clever.) I wouldn't classify this as a good show. It has plenty of things about it that seem interesting and I spent the majority of the season trying to decide if it had some deep commentary on Japanese society, fate or Bystander Syndrome locked in there but I really don't think so - its just a mean spirited show with no human soul. This is in no small part due to the series mascot - the ever smiling, fat and mysterious Laughing Salesman, Moguro. Moguro isn't a human, angel, demon or god. He's not anything. He's just a force, I guess. No story in this happens without his direct intervention, and he seems to have reality bending powers that require the viewer to just roll with it. Want a natural story about a fall from grace? Well fuck off because Moguro's only method of tricking people is to design most of the failure from the ground up. These people aren't bad, even the ones with bad tendencies or those who abuse the power because Moguro is always the one behind it all. Nothing happens without Moguro. Since he is essentially the narrator, I would say he is similar to the Cryptkeeper but with more direct impact on the story. But since none of these stories would happen without Moguro its like...whats the point here? Trying to make a statement about fatalism? Why have the direct hand of Moguro unnaturally steer people in the wrong direction then? Free will? None of these outcomes would have come together without Moguro setting them into a situation which causes the things to happen, and one of these people choose this. Moguro just leads them there, by force or foul play if necessary. If someone denies his requests he will just steal their purse or some shit and runaway until they listen and are connived into a scenario of shit. Its just...ugh. Have a message. The message is never "misuse of power is wrong" or "this is the morally wrong thing to do" its "Haha here is Salaryman Takamoto-san, drink this water that makes you feel better about your shitty life. But don't drink too much or else you'll be punished, probably in a way that doesn't reflect the theme of the episode at all BECAUSE WE HAVE NO THEME."

You know whats scarier then the Devil? The fact that there is no Devil, and humans don't need the help of any evil creature to be evil themselves.

I spit on this show.
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Good thing I avoided it then. After the first episode felt kind of not satisfying due to many of the problems you post here, I decided to stop.
 
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MetroidPrimeRib

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DNAbro said:
Good thing I avoided it then. After the first episode felt kind of not satisfying due to many of the problems you post here, I decided to stop.
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I forgot to mention that Laughing Salesman has an uncomfortable running theme of "Don't ever seek to improve anything in your life or you will just end up in a worse situation"

The fuck kind of message is that? Is it telling you Japanese society sucks or that you should be complacent?

kayos90 said:
Isn't this straight up hentai?
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That line got blurred a while ago. Straight up Hentai isn't the way anymore, you just do borderline softcore stuff and then you can get some talent in there
 
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kayos90

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MetroidPrimeRib said:
I forgot to mention that Laughing Salesman has an uncomfortable running theme of "Don't ever seek to improve anything in your life or you will just end up in a worse situation"

The fuck kind of message is that? Is it telling you Japanese society sucks or that you should be complacent?



That line got blurred a while ago. Straight up Hentai isn't the way anymore, you just do borderline softcore stuff and then you can get some talent in there
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So... it's censored hentai?
 
Cornbread78

Cornbread78

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Tsugumomo ep.12
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This was at least funny
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Then this part happened
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I'm sorry. I apologize for so many things after watching this..
 
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Line_HTX

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I swear if Eromanga is the start of a cinematic universe with all that talented staff and Sagiri's seiyu herself doing frames of her own character....
 
John Blade

John Blade

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Line_HTX said:
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John Blade pls.
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Hey, it's not my thing but I bet someone here will watch it in they special time when it release. Just don't see why they want to do this in this anime except it sell well in Japan last year.

Still wondering how it will be done in porn based on the story. I know the news say part of the story is based on purified by the ritual of bondage and they will be some sort of merging of body of different characters. I wonder if we will have scene where Mitsuha make love with someone but inside Mitsuha body, it's Taki who is doing the job and vice versa. Also, will they be scenes in this adult movie where you see each of the MC in they opposite body and basically try out they new bodies for the 1st time as they never know how it feel like when playing themselves in the opposite sex. I guess the final scene will be those two MC doing it together and eventually felt in love after escape from this bondage ritual which consist of rape, bdsm, old man and woman playing, etc. I guess if they make an adult movie with a decent story line, no one will watch for the adult stuff but more for the story and if the MC can escape from this hell hole and be together as one.
 
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Valdfellgar

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kayos90 said:
Seven Deadly Sins is pretty much at that level? The show on Netflix??
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I think he meant Sin: Seven Deadly Sins, remained Seven Mortal Sins in English. THAT is totally soft-core porn, although strangely in the last episode I watched it totally tried to move its plot along instead of jiggling the plot as usual.
 
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Aki-at

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L.O.R.D said:
Tiger Mask W 36

WAH,that's was really good episode,and amazing finisher ,really love it,and that OST,THAT OST.


speaking about the OST,i didn't know it was released.

holy shit,IT'S FUCKING AMAZING

but where is the full opening? still not released? that's very weird.
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I've never felt so pumped up watching a show as I have with Tiger Mask.

With everyone happy that this season is ending I was the opposite, it means no more Tiger Mask :(
 
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hosannainexcelsis

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People disgusted by the new Laughing Salesman anime should check out the episode synopses for the 1989 anime.

A salaryman takes driving lessons but is a terrible driver. Moguro gives him private lessons, letting him drive however he likes and enjoys the joke when the man causes a huge amount of damage.
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Moguro sets up an unpopular and lonely salaryman with a lady by correspondence. When they meet in a park at night frequented by perverts, she turns out to be a mannequin whom Moguro causes to scream for help. The salaryman is then beaten up by citizens and arrested.
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Moguro encourages a student to observe life from the top of a building and he falls in love with a woman he sees in an apartment building. Moguro sets up a meeting between them, but also tells her husband, a gang boss, who who arrives and beats up the student.
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A cowardly illustrator dreams of being a hero so Moguro encourages him to be brave. The young cartoonist eventually summons enough courage to stop a robber, but is stabbed in his right arm, preventing him from ever drawing again.
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Moguro: Ruining Your Life Since 1968
 
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e_i

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Frame Arms Girls episode 12 (End?)


And now Ao and Gourai are married. It's canon people! CANON!
Too bad the other girls left to find their own waifus.
 
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jonjonaug

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I liked Laughing Salesman a lot. I thought it was excellently directed and had very good music that always fit the scene. Some of the episodes were duds, but most of them were good.

Seven Mortal Sins is one of the dumbest shows I've watched since Kampfer and I love it.
 
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duckroll

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MetroidPrimeRib said:
The Laughing Salesman New 12 END



I would like to say first and foremost - fuck this show. Don't watch it. Its mean spirited, morally empty and without a message.

You know anthology shows like The Twilight Zone or Alfred Hitchcock Presents usually give a scenario where you are waiting for a character to "get theirs" or to see where a single mistake can lead you. The setups and endings are different - you could be following a character you want to see succeed or one you want to see fail, and the supernatural aspects they sometimes encounter vary wildly and the shows make good use of plot twists to throw you off the trail.

The issue with The Laughing Salesman is that it does none of that. Let me explain to you every single episode - every single story, of which there are two in each episode - of The Laughing Salesman.


  1. All people in this world - young and old, male and female - are lonely at heart. My name is Moguro, they call me the Laughing Salesman but I'm no ordinary salesman I deal in peoples hearts, oh no I don't need a single yen the best thing is to see the face of a satisfied customer
  2. Introducing our Japanese worker bee who will be ruined for no reason, ****-san
  3. Something goes wrong
  4. Moguro appears and does his shtick then gives them a device that solves the issue, warning them that if they misuse it or use it to much there will be consequences. Or sometimes he causes the issue himself?
  5. Heres where you might see some variation! The customer either misuses it or is led into scenarios where they have to use it.
  6. PUNISHMENT TIME DOOOOOOOOM
  7. Uneven punishments that usually don't fit the scale of the crime or have an ironic Sisyphean nature to them

And thats it. The issue is that the show never bothers to stray from these tight confines. It is usually not a fulfilling show to watch either, as good people - some who Moguro purposefully creates a situation for them to be trapped into so he can punish them for misusing something he gave them to solve the problem he made - get punished through no fault of their own and for no moral reason. There are stories where the person is pretty shitty and gets whats coming, but I can't think of a single one where they would have ended up at that point without Moguro.

So is the issue that its far too depressing, bleak, pessimistic and fatalistic? Yeah a little bit. But I think the issue is more along the lines of the show just being not very good. Aside from the strong visual direction (aside from flashing to pictures of Hell all the time. Stop doing that its the opposite of clever.) I wouldn't classify this as a good show. It has plenty of things about it that seem interesting and I spent the majority of the season trying to decide if it had some deep commentary on Japanese society, fate or Bystander Syndrome locked in there but I really don't think so - its just a mean spirited show with no human soul. This is in no small part due to the series mascot - the ever smiling, fat and mysterious Laughing Salesman, Moguro. Moguro isn't a human, angel, demon or god. He's not anything. He's just a force, I guess. No story in this happens without his direct intervention, and he seems to have reality bending powers that require the viewer to just roll with it. Want a natural story about a fall from grace? Well fuck off because Moguro's only method of tricking people is to design most of the failure from the ground up. These people aren't bad, even the ones with bad tendencies or those who abuse the power because Moguro is always the one behind it all. Nothing happens without Moguro. Since he is essentially the narrator, I would say he is similar to the Cryptkeeper but with more direct impact on the story. But since none of these stories would happen without Moguro its like...whats the point here? Trying to make a statement about fatalism? Why have the direct hand of Moguro unnaturally steer people in the wrong direction then? Free will? None of these outcomes would have come together without Moguro setting them into a situation which causes the things to happen, and one of these people choose this. Moguro just leads them there, by force or foul play if necessary. If someone denies his requests he will just steal their purse or some shit and runaway until they listen and are connived into a scenario of shit. Its just...ugh. Have a message. The message is never "misuse of power is wrong" or "this is the morally wrong thing to do" its "Haha here is Salaryman Takamoto-san, drink this water that makes you feel better about your shitty life. But don't drink too much or else you'll be punished, probably in a way that doesn't reflect the theme of the episode at all BECAUSE WE HAVE NO THEME."

You know whats scarier then the Devil? The fact that there is no Devil, and humans don't need the help of any evil creature to be evil themselves.

I spit on this show.
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So basically Moguro is the spirit of society and the show is an analogy of being a black person in America?
 
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Man God

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MetroidPrimeRib said:
the best thing about post adventure sonic games is the never ending cascade of hilariously bad butt rock



idk he has more health doesnt he

I never beat Henry in 1 but it took me about 45 minutes to kill Bad Girl on hard
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It's more hp, but you already know how to beat the final boss in 2 because you did it on normal.

The secret to Henry is to just do the same cheap ass move over and over again only when it is perfectly safe. You can try actually countering him with DSD and the like but why risk it?
 
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duckroll

Member
Okay let's try this again.

Kado The Right Answer - Episode 9

I found the previous episode infuriating as hell because this chick is such an annoying character. This episode sort of explains why she's such an annoying character, but that doesn't really make the show any better. It's one of those cases where a story thinks that as long as it explains everything, that makes it okay. It doesn't, it just means you came up with a convoluted explanation for why you are telling an shoddy story! How about telling a good one instead!

Yeah, I dunno. I wish I could say this is a "jump the shark" episode, but whatever crazy shit is happening now isn't worse than what came before. If anything I would say it's probably more interesting and fits the director's skill set better, while still being stupid.



Kado The Right Answer - Episode 10

This is not Tree of Life. Murata is no Malick. Trying to take itself seriously and wallowing in self-importance is very unbecoming given the silliness of the events last episode. I wish this would stop trying to be a serious scifi show anymore, since it's clearly not that great at it. Being a shounen action slugfest would be an improvement.
 
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