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Spring Anime 2017 |OT| Don't be a SukaSuka for Gacha
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MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
If you're talking about an actual new Big 3 there isn't one since that refers to three Weekly Shonen Jump Series only. The closest thing you have now is One Piece/Shokugeki no Soma/My Hero Academia but in reality its One Piece/Tokyo Ghoul/Attack on Titan
MikeHattsu
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I thought the big three stuff was mainly about manga sales?
eh... it's still all about the merch.
and I never said the number of episodes is a gauge of success... but the number of episodes directly correlates to how many disks will be released.
if you have two shows that are near equal in popularity, but one has 4 total disks released and the other has 20. then unless the one that has 4 manages to sell 5 times more copies then the other on average, it's not going to touch the disk sales of the other series.
and as for worldwide success being hard to gauge... since we don't have hard numbers it can be... but at the same time anyone seriously trying to argue that yuri on ice is as successful as attack on titan clearly has problems separating personal feelings/the current moment and reality.
Yuri on ice has a vocal following now, and is no doubt successful. But its not remotely close to the overall success of attack on titan.
perhaps another yuri series or two in the next few years and it could maybe actually compete. but it's basically like arguing that Horizon zero dawn's success is anywhere near the elder scrolls series in general @_@.
horizon is selling more right now in this moment, and is being talked about more right now in the moment. but the elder scrolls series is clearly the far more successful franchise.
nah... it's not that complicated.
really the big three where just the big three series that were coming out of japan that most americans knew.
they were known to be supporting shonen jump and seemed like they would never end.
that's it as far as I know. they were just the never ending shonen shows which were still airing that everyone knew as anime became more available in the NA. in regards to the big three I really don't think japan matters to much otherwise I would imagine detective conan would have been included (though I don't think conan is a SJ series but still) as it has almost always gotten better ratings than bleach or naruto.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
"The Big Three" is a dumb term because it only existed outside of the Japanese market among people that never contributed to the sales. WSJ never gave a shit about the Big Three because the Big Three doesn't exist to them. Yes, Bleach, One Piece and Naruto were all/still are big series but how many magazines of WSJ were they selling to Westerners?
And the term Big Three fails to recognize how fucking big One Piece and putting Bleach on the same pedestal as OP and Naruto when it comes to sales was always goofy. Bleach was huge, yes. But its like saying Avatar, Avengers Age of Ultron and Spider-Man 3 are all on the same tier. They aren't.
Dedication Through Light
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CHAOS;CHILD Episode 9 - Duel
Mind Swords (Di-Swords) are just too out there even for this show. I think it signaled the demise of this series.
Mind Swords (Di-Swords) are just too out there even for this show. I think it signaled the demise of this series.
to be fair bleach is more popular than one piece in north america
Not anymore it isn't!
I'm sure Naruto is still ahead of it though.
GoldCrusader
Member
Yooooo that's great! I'm so hyped for
Saturday!
Cornbread78
Member
Yes, SAO and Fairy Tail ftw!
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
to be fair bleach is more popular than one piece in north america
You could add up every Bleach fan worldwide, and it would still be less than the sales of the lowest selling One Piece volume in Japan.
Turin Turambar
Member
Eh, I think it's ok, if the next season comes in say, 9 months, and not in 30 months like the wait between S1 and S2.
idk..
I still see way more bleach cosplayers at the conventions I go to than one piece ones (though one piece fans are way better at group cosplay)
that being said...
yeah... naruto craps all over both of them as bleach + one piece combined doesn't touch naruto numbers at my cons.
are we counting people that ever enjoyed bleach, or still actively call themselves fans.
as I think if we count anyone that ever enjoyed it that if we add up all the people worldwide it would just squeak ahead of the worst selling one piece volume
now if you meant to say every bleach volume wold worldwide... then yeah... most likely. I can't really see bleach more than doubling it's manga sales with worldwide numbers instead of just japan (as logically the first volume of bleach is far closer to the worst selling one piece volume then the overall 25% of the one piece sales that bleach has in general)
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
to be fair bleach is more popular than one piece in north america
Even if it was at one point (it certainly was a decade or so ago) not anymore.
Thats pure anecdotal evidence but yeah Naruto is the biggest one in NA
MikeHattsu
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GoldCrusader
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I always thought the big 3 was less about sells and more about the impact they had on the international market.
hosannainexcelsis
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It's true that disc sales matter less today than they did a few years ago due to shifting market trends that prioritize online streaming over physical releases. Still, they're not unimportant and can be a sign of popularity in the Japanese market. While we have weekly numbers for disc sales in Japan, numbers for merchandise sales or streaming revenue or overseas licensing are harder to come by and thus require more speculation. But I have a hard time imagining that Yuri on Ice did poorly in any of those departments.
I was using per-volume average sales, helpfully cataloged on this website. Obviously longer anime series will release more volumes of discs, but you have to remember it'll also cost more to produce more episodes and print more volumes.
I think the results of the Crunchyroll Awards show that Yuri on Ice is considerably popular worldwide, not just in Japan. I'm not even a fan of Yuri on Ice; I'm just trying to draw reasonable conclusions based on the available evidence. As others have pointed out, the "Big Three" is a concept that's based more in US anime fandom as centered around the Toonami brand than anything else.
oh I won't deny at all it's anecdotal evidence
I am also just stressing NA because I know one piece at least started taking off in EU.
Sadly one piece will likely go back to falling in NA since toei decided to remove it from adult swim.
either way they also had to be still airing. otherwise dbz would have had to be included.
and beyond that had to be part of shonen jump otherwise pokemon likely would have been included.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Fate/Zero 19
Hey I actually liked this episode quite a bit. Kiritsugu crying at the end looked terrible tho, watching these character designs try and express any emotion besides pure neutrality is a trip
Enemy UAV online
Hey I actually liked this episode quite a bit. Kiritsugu crying at the end looked terrible tho, watching these character designs try and express any emotion besides pure neutrality is a trip
Funimation Now coming to Australia and New Zealand
https://mobile.twitter.com/wtk/status/847572825762181124
https://mobile.twitter.com/wtk/status/847572825762181124
anime streaming maybe. (though crunchy is likely the better deal if you don't like dubs
)netflix still is a way better deal in general streaming
that being said I am still surprised people don't account share more with funimation since they allow it like netflix does.
Cornbread78
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Ben-to ep.6
Well, that was a really brutal battle. That Monarch leader is a real piece of shit and I'm sure that wasn't the last of him.
Well, that was a really brutal battle. That Monarch leader is a real piece of shit and I'm sure that wasn't the last of him.
Crimson_Echidna
Banned
In a sense yeah. At their peak, they were Called the Big 3 because they were the three most popular series currently running at the time in Shonen Jump. Commercially, the cap between One Piece and the other two in Japan was still pretty massive. Same thing in America, only with Naruto outselling the other two by a country mile instead.
As for the most "popular" post-Big 3 anime. In the West it would AOT, SAO, and OPM. With Yuri on Ice maybe being the fourth pillar.
Valdfellgar
Banned
Yeeeeesssssss.
Dedication Through Light
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anime streaming maybe. (though crunchy is likely the better deal if you don't like dubs
netflix still is a way better deal in general streaming
that being said I am still surprised people don't account share more with funimation since they allow it like netflix does.
netflix removes stuff too often, especially anime.
Scum's Wish END
A great and mature way to end the series with each character growing and finding a new path rather than relying on what's easy and what they want in the moment, though really it was basically a bonus episode because the hero already got her happy ending last week. All told Scum's Wish is easily top 2 of the season.
A great and mature way to end the series with each character growing and finding a new path rather than relying on what's easy and what they want in the moment, though really it was basically a bonus episode because the hero already got her happy ending last week. All told Scum's Wish is easily top 2 of the season.
Funimation Now coming to Australia and New Zealand
https://mobile.twitter.com/wtk/status/847572825762181124
Well thats going to make the situation for Animelab more complicated.
Trying to check out Funimation Now I see none of my Android devices are compatible, not even my Nexus 5x phone (though to use the service I'd need a app for my Shield TV).
I forgot how much better the fans got a live action dbz than hollywood.
was reminded because the trailer for episodes 2 and 3 of a light of hope came out.
was reminded because the trailer for episodes 2 and 3 of a light of hope came out.
Crimson_Echidna
Banned
Yeah I think that confirms it. Between that and them getting all of Sentai's latest dubs, there's definitely a partnership there.
they got the girls in the dungeon spin off which will also be on anime strike.
but frame girls isn't going to be on anime strike.
so it might not be a full blown partnership but a case by case basis which is just leading to most of their stuff being gotten right now.
MultiJhonny
Banned
hmm.. this sounds really plausible
Dedication Through Light
Member
It could be on anime strike & other sites.
it could be but it would be really weird to not announce it for anime strike at the same time as "select digital outlits" given all their other anime strike announcements.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Scum's Wish 12 END
Its the finale and Hanabi can't stop getting owned. Someone please help her.
Its the finale and Hanabi can't stop getting owned. Someone please help her.
CheapJuice
Member
Acca - 12 [End]
Fairly fitting low key ending for the show. It stayed true to itself til the end on that front, and I kinda want to commend it for sticking with it.
Acca worked well for me as a weekly thing. I actually find myself a bit surprised I stuck with it to the end with the very slow pacing and excessive cast, considering the amount of shows I've dropped this season.
The particular character design felt like a breath of fresh air to me which probably played a big factor in me staying. Bass is my jam so pleasantly surprised by the soundtrack. Oh and Aoi Yuuki as Lotta wanting to consume pan in all its forms also helps.
In the end I leave content. Nothing more, nothing less.
Fairly fitting low key ending for the show. It stayed true to itself til the end on that front, and I kinda want to commend it for sticking with it.
Acca worked well for me as a weekly thing. I actually find myself a bit surprised I stuck with it to the end with the very slow pacing and excessive cast, considering the amount of shows I've dropped this season.
The particular character design felt like a breath of fresh air to me which probably played a big factor in me staying. Bass is my jam so pleasantly surprised by the soundtrack. Oh and Aoi Yuuki as Lotta wanting to consume pan in all its forms also helps.
In the end I leave content. Nothing more, nothing less.
Hippolnareff
Member
Just finished My Hero Academia.
- Great pacing.
- Notably good soundtrack.
- Some excellent characterization for such a short series - I especially liked Tsu.
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I'm looking forward to them exploring more of the characters in the class as I felt some were barely explained whilst remaining to receive a fair bit of screen-time.
- Great pacing.
- Notably good soundtrack.
- Some excellent characterization for such a short series - I especially liked Tsu.
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I did not like the bubble-head kid whatsoever (Midori?), I didn't like how his "thing" is perving on girls whilst his costume resembles something like a baby in diapers. Felt really unecessary.
Surprised by how high stakes yet how small-scale the battle at the end was (and how many episodes they dedicated to it).
Nice that it didn't completely follow Shounen structure to a tee, I wasn't predicting the very next episode - even thought All Might might kick the bucket.
Liked the tease of more heroes in the last episode with interesting powers.
Liked how much they fit in to about two weeks (and technically 9 months) of the characters' lives, leaving the series so open-ended.
I'm looking forward to them exploring more of the characters in the class as I felt some were barely explained whilst remaining to receive a fair bit of screen-time.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Mobile Fighter G Gundam 10
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GoldCrusader
Member
YEEEEAAA glad you liked it! Every character is so damn good!
If you don't know the next season starts Saturday and it's going to be so god damn amazing!
Dedication Through Light
Member
Beyblade Burst Episode 9: Wyvron in the Way! (engDub)
Some of the lines are awesome, especially the guy Shu beat (Ive got fans too, online) and then Honcho saying BFFs or Wakiya with the Token Gold Star for Showing Up.
Best Shu.
Some of the lines are awesome, especially the guy Shu beat (Ive got fans too, online) and then Honcho saying BFFs or Wakiya with the Token Gold Star for Showing Up.
Best Shu.
Thanks man but only a weeb would watch it on such a day... Which I did haha.
Eccentric Family - 1
Another series that I've been keen to watch and I thought with season 2 starting so soon this was the perfect time to jump on board the series. Seems like a quirky little series with some nice visuals (Although the use of 3d pedestrians bothered me more so for that reason probably) quite intrigued to see where this is going.
Also side note, I thought the way the ears were drawn was to show us the audience as visual cue who was human and who were the spirits but seems it was just the style the ears were drawn haha.
GoldCrusader
Member
Is there no legal way to watch the first season of the Eccentric family anymore?
The character designer is Kumeta of SZS fame.
Dedication Through Light
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GoldCrusader
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That's a little expensive and it's not even available on the Canadian Amazon. Eh I'll just pass on it for now and Hopefully it gets added back on CR
Yeah Mineta is definitely one of my least favorite of the class. Luckiy the rest are pretty solid and should get some more time in S2.
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