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SPRING BREAKERS (OT) Why Y'all Actin' 'Spicious?

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haha you're in for a shocker

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Best one sheet.
 
This movie would've been great if it wasn't for the over burden of unrealistic characters and forced elements that seemed to be blatantly put in the script to have these girls shake their kiddy images.

BUT....

I'm shockingly recommending it though, I enjoyed it.
 
haha you're in for a shocker

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but 14 year old Disney Channel star Bella Thorne went to the premiere!!


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I think its funny that people dismiss this movie because they think its like some shitty wacky American Pie comedy or something when it's the complete opposite.
 
Ha! I'd love to read any essay on the 20 "big ideas" on race this movie dives into. I thought it was mostly repetitive, but enjoyable, fluff.
well of course it's repetitive, it's in your face about how repetitive it is. Korine intentionally overlaps moments so it feels like everything is both removed from time and all happening at once. lines and shots get repeated to a droning degree. but if you mean repetitive in theme, I hugely disagree. I don't know if any of the themes it tackles are satisfactorily explored, but they're there. which automatically disqualifies it from being thin or fluff. those descriptions purport that the film is low on ideas and you watch it just to have fun. neither of those are true.
I already put down a handful of concepts that I think are given focus during the film, but there's also: rumination on the specific brand of alienation and suffocation that happens at colleges, exploration of how purposeful violation of taboos can be fulfilling, and a really interestingly twisted depiction of sexuality in general.
 
Did anyone read Korine's AMA on Reddit? It was fucking... I don't know. It was shit. I couldn't tell if he was high, trolling, or doing some weird performance. Is it like a schtick or something?

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Only useful thing from the AMA
Q: Does Gucci Mane ever say "Yeaaaaahhhhhhhh" or "Burr!" in everyday coversation, or are those just ad libs?
Korine: yes a few times a day.
 
well of course it's repetitive, it's in your face about how repetitive it is. Korine intentionally overlaps moments so it feels like everything is both removed from time and all happening at once. lines and shots get repeated to a droning degree.

This is why it reminded me of a Malick movie with the slight non-linear editing.
Franco repeating "spring break forever" many times desperately trying to convince himself that he was doing the right thing.
 
Did anyone read Korine's AMA on Reddit? It was fucking... I don't know. It was shit. I couldn't tell if he was high, trolling, or doing some weird performance. Is it like a schtick or something?

Edit:
Only useful thing from the AMA
Q: Does Gucci Mane ever say "Yeaaaaahhhhhhhh" or "Burr!" in everyday coversation, or are those just ad libs?
Korine: yes a few times a day.

it's goddamn amazing. he actually semi-answers a lot of questions, looks like a lot of the time there aren't full answers because the questions kinda...suck. the answers that flat-out don't make sense are hilarious in their inanity. and the ones that do make sense are excellent.
like, I'm taking his answer "yes it will thrive because of this" to "What is the point [of SB]" to mean "no really good filmmaker's going to tell you there's ONE point, if multiple people are getting different experiences then the film will have a longer life"
I loved the part about gucci saying "my wrists sparkle like lemmmons" too but the absolute best quote:

"cinema has changed. cinema is now a 30 second youtube clip. clear your mind. think of different now. make it bend to you. never use a walking stick, it looks doper to limp. catch my drift?"
This is why it reminded me of a Malick movie with the slight non-linear editing.
Franco repeating "spring break forever" many times desperately trying to convince himself that he was doing the right thing.
I definitely understood that comparison that people were making, but far more than Malick I was feeling Gaspar Noe, which made a ton more sense when I remembered that Benoit Debe did Irreversible and Enter the Void too
 
So is there a reason some theaters wouldn't be playing this? Neither theater near me is playing it. One is Regal, one is AMC. Both large theaters. I don't get it.
 
I'm probably going to see this at some point.

Can anyone give a me a little better justification for why this is an "important" movie and not just exploitation? That might make the difference between trying to get to it in theaters and just waiting for Netflix. I'm not familiar with any of the director's work.
 
I wouldn't bother. I live Park's past work, but this is extremely by the numbers and lacking in his special touch. He played it far too safe and as a result, the movie feels dull, lacks tension, it's a disappointment on all fronts.

some beautiful cinematography and the soundtrack is pretty decent, but the movie itself? Nah, wait for it to show up on netflix, etc.

Sorry for the derail.

Not to derail the thread completely but I have to disagree with the statement that Stoker is completely by the numbers and disappointing on all fronts. The way it handles the development of India and her "connection" to the uncle was excellent. Didn't feel that the film was trying to be particularly tense either, certainly atmospheric and perhaps unnerving but certain elements like the ending implied to me that tension wasn't the main goal. The soundwork was also some of the best I've experienced in a long time. As I said, don't want to get into it too much here but just want to put out a brief alternate opinion so as to not deter anyone from seeing it.

Just got back from seeing Spring Breakers. Will write up a more detailed post later but I did find it amusing that the people the film is a satire of, or at least that's how I interpreted much of it, were the ones who showed up in droves. At first I was worried about rather I'd even be able to watch the film comfortably as almost all of audience was unbelievably loud and obnoxious(one guy was even bragging about all the commentary he was going to give) but hearing the reactions change in real time almost made it worth it. When the film started with the beach scene it was full of cheering but by the time the movie started to change in tone
rather early on, the inside view of the chicken shack robbery
everyone started to die down and you could tell the atmosphere in the theater was getting a bit uncomfortable for many there.

Think the marketing for the film has been brilliant, using the two Disney girls' involvement as bait to draw people in plus releasing it during actual Spring Break for most of the country is going to lead to a lot of surprised and shocked audience members. Opinions on Korine's work aside, having such an "experimental" (yes, being lazy here) work get a large release is pleasing to see.

Ending discussion: As I said, somewhat tired so I'll expand later. Do want to discuss the ending though, hoping something will click after I think on it a bit.

Did find the ending segment a bit of a let down in terms of connection to the rest of the film. The way I saw it was almost a kind of reverse Scarface, parodying the assault on Pacino's manshion, but aside from the sudden killing of Alien it played out in a very cliched manner and was just a bit of a drag to watch. Also didn't think they drew attention to the intended contrast of absurdity in regards to when they slaughter the guards and the after shots. I saw it as during that assault it was almost sort of a carefree high, guards died left and right, no blood or sign of injuries what so ever, but once the rival was shot it seemed that they brought it back to reality by showing the damage inflicted on the people killed. It's a minor issue but I didn't think the wounds shown after the assault were very convincing, and as such it took me out a bit and didn't contrast in as heavy a manner as I think it was supposed to.

I feel in general the elements involving the rival felt somewhat forced and disconnected from the rest of the piece. Did like the contrast in the beach parties at the beginning of the film and the trip to the stripper joint later on. The "underworld" was a rather grimly place.

No idea if this is the reason or not, but there's a fair amount of nudity throughout
Did find the amount of extra entry hurdles odd. The ticket purchase stand asked for my ID for the first time in years. Once I was inside I had to show a staff member my ticket and ID again to get into the actual theater screen where it was being played. Haven't experienced anything like that for any film at one of these big chains.
 
I've never seen an audience so vocally disappointed with a movie. People were yelling "this movie sucks!" at the end, and I said the same thing during one of the extended ambient techno Selena Gomez staring at a window, with the same dialogue repeating over and over scenes. It could have been a decent movie. It was ruined by the editing, the music, the repetitiveness. It was boring. The climactic scene at the end was completely anticlimactic.

If Tarantino had directed this, it would have been fun, and I would have walked out of the theater thinking it was amazing. Harmony Korine is a shit director though. Fuck this movie.
 
I've never seen an audience so vocally disappointed with a movie. People were yelling "this movie sucks!" at the end, and I said the same thing during one of the extended ambient techno Selena Gomez staring at a window, with the same dialogue repeating over and over scenes. It could have been a decent movie. It was ruined by the editing, the music, the repetitiveness. It was boring. The climactic scene at the end was completely anticlimactic.

If Tarantino had directed this, it would have been fun, and I would have walked out of the theater thinking it was amazing. Harmony Korine is a shit director though. Fuck this movie.

why were you watching this movie? Why was anyone?
 
I think I'm going to check this out tomorrow night.

I'm wondering how many people are seeing this movie thinking it's something it's not (typical spring break movie). When I first saw some stuff I kind of thought it was. Didn't really want to see it. Then when I learned what it really was I was interested.
 
I can't watch this movie in theaters. I'de be arrested on the same charges as peewee herman

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I hate reading threads backwards only to see I was beaten to the punchline.

Heh, believe it or not but the film itself is one of the least erotic things I've seen in a long time. It does a good job of desensitizing you to the copious nudity and sexuality.

What should I see first? Stoker or Spring Breakers?
Very different films so I don't think there's really a better choice(keep in mind I enjoyed both though) Stoker is a bit of an easier watch, both films are rather disquieting though so it really just depends on your mood. Stoker is much more of a slow burn, takes time in its efforts to work toward achieving a rather uneasy feeling whereas Spring Breakers is very much exaggerated in every banner. Spring Breakers is the one that's going to be talked about much more given the wider release and marketing so if you care about that in-person discussion aspect than I'd recommend to see it first.
 
I've never seen an audience so vocally disappointed with a movie. People were yelling "this movie sucks!" at the end, and I said the same thing during one of the extended ambient techno Selena Gomez staring at a window, with the same dialogue repeating over and over scenes. It could have been a decent movie. It was ruined by the editing, the music, the repetitiveness. It was boring. The climactic scene at the end was completely anticlimactic.
The repetitiveness and nightmarish editing and trance music are all the point.
If Tarantino had directed this, it would have been fun, and I would have walked out of the theater thinking it was amazing.
what does this even mean
 
That is probably the most unlikely response I could have possibly imagined. How so?

Spring Breakers is such a constant sensory overload, it's in your face, loud, etc. At times it can be a bit much to take it at once. Stoker on the other hand, while having some rather extravagant cinematography and "intense" sequences of its own, is paced in such a way that I was engrossed and unnerved throughout the film. It's much more of a mystery, mean an easier watch just in the most basic sense of it being not nearly as overwhelming. Keep in mind that comment was in comparison to Spring Breakers, not that Stoker was an easy watch compared to films in general. I seem to have appreciated it more than some others here though so keep that in mind. Apologies if my writing is a bit basic, been up quite a while but can't go to sleep yet because of some responsibilities.
 
With that recent article confirming that the
Gucci sex scene was unsimulated
it's now got me wondering about the
threeway scene
 
Stoker on the other hand, while having some rather extravagant cinematography and "intense" sequences of its own, is paced in such a way that I was engrossed and unnerved throughout the film.

That's cool. I'll probably see Stoker first, if only because it is likely to leave theatres much sooner than Spring Breakers.
 
Did find the amount of extra entry hurdles odd. The ticket purchase stand asked for my ID for the first time in years. Once I was inside I had to show a staff member my ticket and ID again to get into the actual theater screen where it was being played. Haven't experienced anything like that for any film at one of these big chains.

I saw this film tonight at the theater I work at, and they had the same thing going on with ID checks. I didn't ask if this was the case, but usually we only add the person outside the theater to check tickets & ID because of a high amount of high school kids trying to sneak in.

That being said I don't think this is the kind of movie those kids would be expecting to see.
 
It means the scene where 2 girls
kill a dozen thugs
wouldn't have been so boring.

a couple things:
1) you're demonstrating the hyper-reductive idea of what a tarantino film is that most people have, i.e. that "omg he's just sooo violent and fun!"
2) I just...don't get what tarantino has to do with this movie? like, were you just picking the first director you could think of that you think shoots exciting action? because I guess that would make sense then, but if you chose qt because you think he'd actually fit with this movie: no. nah.
3) boring is a horrible criticism of a film because when people are using it they're most often meaning that a film denied them mindless enjoyment. the climax in this film is methodical and hypnotic and very very slow. because you're not supposed to feel victorious or exhilarated. it's supposed to be dark as shit. if it were an adrenaline-fueled explosion fest it would be antithetical to the entire film
 
Lol dawg that's terrible. I'll take ur word for it tho and watch it on Bluray

I put a different opinion a few posts up but just want to add that I think Stoker is really a film that's worth the trek to the big screen. Just an absolutely gorgeous film in every way, from set design to the actual cinematography. It's always being played in 4K where available. If nothing else try catching a cheap early bird special.
 
I remember when I went to see South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut they actually had ushers in the theatre demanding to see ID.

I also remember having a friend who was over 17 buy tickets for Trainspotting, but being kicked out by a manager after sitting down in the theatre.

Movie chains in the late 90's were pretty nuts about enforcing an R-rating. I'm not sure if it's the same now or if it is just because I look older and don't get hassled much.
 
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