Square Enix: Final Fantasy XV "greatest contributor", fastest-selling FF (6 million)

Don't make this thread about me guys, lol.
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Jesus Christ.
Edit: If you guy's aren't here to comment on the topic of the thread and are here just to lob insults at Tabata, the dev team, and anyone who likes the game, go find somewhere else to do that.
JFC, some of y'all are bitter.
Comparing Tabata to Keiji Infaune.

Sigh. I guess this thread is now lost.

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BOI STHAP

CUZ DIS THE HYPE THREAD

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Tabata won
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We HypeBOYZ in here


You bitter mouth people get literally every other XV thread.

We keepin this one hype yo
 
Bruh, you for real going to call him socopathic? Come on.

The idea that Tabata, regardless of his actual skills or not is some master manipulator gleefully ruining other peoples work or some arrogant narcissist is so bizarre. To the point people accuse him talking about his daughter missing him during development as some dastardly scheme get sympathy

The man never looks like anything but ready to keel over from the stress,

Yeah, seriously. What the hell kind of arguments did I just walk into in this thread? Calling Tabata a sociopath?

What alternate reality are we walking into?

smdh
 
Then where a damn Pudding avatar.

But now I'm going through my A2 phase D: (Also I need to find a good one again)

Aye for real pudding for Nakama screw carrot lol

Well okay, don't piss off Ray except when it is Carrot-related.

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On topic, I dunno if the next entry would have a similar combat system like XV, but I wouldn't mind that at all. Seems like an improvement of the formula would be great, and at the end of the day, it's still cool as fuck.

I doubt the success of this means they won't take any feedback, so we'll probably be good. Well, unless you really, really prefer turn-based combat instead.
 
Kind of sad really. Now square enix has the idea that they release half finished games and still make a great profit as long as they hype the game to hell. That game still does not have a complete story and barely has any notable or story related side quests or any other fun activities. I don't know what I waited 10 years for and what I bought the ultimate collector's edition for but FFXV was not it.
 
Glad to see the series on such a strong path and it return back to form this gen. FFXIV and FFXV propelling the series forward into much brighter days.
 

I think it's fair to say that this news is mixed because, while it ensures the future of the franchise, its direction may follow FFXV.

I don't think most people want to see the series continue in this direction mechanically, and certainly not in its focus on character and storytelling priorities. Shit was a mess.

I hope SE doesn't take the wrong lessons from this.
 
Well I guess this confirms that I'll never buy a mainline FF again. As long as I still get stuff like WoFF and Nier I can't be too down about it.
 
I disagree about Tabata having no 'artistic flair'.

He has given me two of the best endings in any FF: Crisis Core and XV. Even when it comes to XV, while the side stuff like food might be a bit too much, the photography feature alone redeemed the game for a lot of us.

Nomura is better in gameplay though but terrible in writing a coherent story and delivering a project on time.

The development time of KH3 and FFVII-R speaks alit of how well Nomura can handle these types of projects. Tabata has his faults but he does complete games in a reasonable timeframe. That's what matters to SE stockholders. St least the fans have the ability now to make their voices known about how to improve their work.
 

Fanbases in general span from afwul to good depending on the franchise and boards you post on.

Neogaf is good for things like Pokemon and Smash, but can get heated with more hardcore stuff like FF.

It also doesn't help that the mainline series are so different between entries with different gameplay mechanics and worlds that its hard to please everyone from old to new fans. And that's not even getting into the spinoffs that span generes like tactics and crystal sagas and fighters now.

I love 7 and 9 but didn't like 8, some can love 14 but others will not like a FF MMO.

General thoughts.
 
I think it's fair to say that this news is mixed because, while it ensures the future of the franchise, its direction may follow FFXV.

I don't think most people want to see the series continue in this direction mechanically, and certainly not in its focus on character and storytelling priorities. Shit was a mess.

I hope SE doesn't take the wrong lessons from this.

The thing is, if that direction pleases so many people (which has already been proven with these numbers), why would SE stop?

Fanbases in general spam from afwul to good depending on the franchise and boards you post on.

Neogaf is good for things like Pokemon and Smash, but can get heated with more hardcore stuff like FF.

It also doesn't help that the mainline series are so different between entries with different gameplay mechanics and worlds that its hard to please everyone. And that's not even getting into the spinoffs like tactics and crystal sagas and fighters now.

I love 7 and 9 but didn't like 8.

General thoughts.

From what I've seen, the longer your franchise is, the more mixed your fanbase is. Unless if you're Dragon Quest.
 
I really liked it :D
I really want more :D
I really want FFXVI to be similar in style and gamplay :D
I'm really HAppy for this game :D

Glad to hear. I remember you were excited to play the game. I'm also really hoping for some new content for FF XV, and I hope that XVI uses a lot of systems and elements of XV and refines them further.
 
I love 7 and 9 but didn't like 8.

General thoughts.

That's a popular stance, though. I personally like all three but I won't argue for it.

There is a lot to like about FFXV and there's way more to be critical of. I think a lot of us are just worried that FFXVI will suffer from many of the same issues because SE knows it won't effect sales.
 
FF15 was a pretty big surprise for me. I had like 0 interest in it even from the earliest days before it was FF15, but a couple months before it came out, I started paying attention, and I saw enough that I liked that I decided to give it a chance. Glad I did, it was one of the better games I played last year. Haven't touched any of the DLC yet (only extra I did was the Chocobo/Moogle event), but soon hopefully.
 
From what I've seen, the longer your franchise is, the more mixed your fanbase is. Unless if you're Dragon Quest.

Dragon Quest retains it's core battle formula/setting for the most part across the board.

Only the small stories from place to place really make DQ games different.

Also party member interactions.
 
I bought the game back on Black Friday and only just recently got to it (crazy early 2017!). I'm on chapter 8 now and having a good time with it. It definitely has some sizeable problems, but I'm still enjoying myself! Plus it was digital, so I contributed that way, too, haha.
 
After playing FFXV, I was genuinely hopeful for the franchise for the first time in 15+ years.

Hopefully this news means we get Final Fantasy at a more regular pace.
 
After playing FFXV, I was genuinely hopeful for the franchise in 15+ years.

Hopefully this news means we get Final Fantasy at a more regular pace.
I wish :(

I think at best, we will get a new mainline game by 2020. This is me being optimistic and thinking about 2018 reveal - 2019 marketing buzz - 2020 release cycle. Just like it happened with FFXV.

As for why I think they will reveal it in 2018, by then, I pray and hope that VII: Remake Part 1 is atleast out of the door or set for a release.........
 
The thing is, if that direction pleases so many people (which has already been proven with these numbers), why would SE stop?
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I think it's worth noting that SE is obviously aware that a vast majority of people were immensely dissatisfied with the story. So... I don't think people should be too afraid of future FF's following XV's footsteps. I was just re-reading the leak thread and apparently they were still rewriting the script 4 months before release, which is not normal.

Aside from that, I absolutely wouldn't mind continuing the ARPG route. I do think they shouldn't attempt an open world again, though. This isn't the franchise for that. Something like XII is fine.
 
I think it's fair to say that this news is mixed because, while it ensures the future of the franchise, its direction may follow FFXV.

I don't think most people want to see the series continue in this direction mechanically, and certainly not in its focus on character and storytelling priorities. Shit was a mess.

I hope SE doesn't take the wrong lessons from this.

I loved FFXV, It's not a 10/10 game like BotW, but it's a step on the right direction to appeal RPG/Action/Sandbox players. But Zelda perfected that formula.

The next FF (idk if it's XVI or XV-2) should improve on what they do, add a little more story and make it bigger and more open, hell, make it non linear and it would be great.
 

CUZ DIS THE HYPE THREAD

No it's not.

It's a thread about a statement regarding FFXV's sales performance

However as there doesn't seem to be any particular discussion outside of an extension of the same personal attacks against the development team, the same passive-aggressive backseat moderation, and the same few people with a holier-than-thou outlook who can't possibly imagine why other people might have a different view on the title (on both sides, mind you) this might as well be virtually any other thread regarding the game. Your post isn't helping any.

I'm going to have to ask the thread to be civil before bans start being handed out.
 
These FFXV threads get so weird now regardless of the side people take...

Anyway, it's very far from my favorite but it's an ok game. Good for them.

This is an FF where for once I actually want them to stick to their usual MO and have a lot of their particular approach to things for XV thrown out the window for XVI. As a general concept (open world action RPG with cars and stuff), I was ok with the game, but I don't really like the direction they chose to go in with any of these things.
 
I wish :(

I think at best, we will get a new mainline game by 2020. This is me being optimistic and thinking about 2018 reveal - 2019 marketing buzz - 2020 release cycle. Just like it happened with FFXV.

As for why I think they will reveal it in 2018, by then, I pray and hope that VII: Remake Part 1 is atleast out of the door or set for a release.........

Unfortunately this is probably true. I'd love to have FF 16 out at a reasonable time, but it's just not going to happen. I doubt they've even gotten out of preproduction at this point. We will be looking at FF VII remake in a couple of years, more DLC for XV, and other stuff to fill the gap (Kingdom Hearts, Dragon Quest, maybe a new IP). FF 16 is unfortunately a long and distant dream.
 
No it's not.

It's a thread about a statement regarding FFXV's sales performance

However as there doesn't seem to be any particular discussion outside of an extension of the same personal attacks against the development team, the same passive-aggressive backseat moderation, and the same few people with a holier-than-thou outlook who can't possibly imagine why other people might have a different view on the title (on both sides, mind you) this might as well be virtually any other thread regarding the game. Your post isn't helping any.

I'm going to have to ask the thread to be civil before bans start being handed out.

Ehh, I'd argue it's inevitable. Sales are a result of everything that came before, it's always going to come up. Besides what else can people say about a sales performance other than "Nice", "Cool", "SE is back to form", "Awesome", "Impressive".
 
No it's not.

It's a thread about a statement regarding FFXV's sales performance

However as there doesn't seem to be any particular discussion outside of an extension of the same personal attacks against the development team, the same passive-aggressive backseat moderation, and the same few people with a holier-than-thou outlook who can't possibly imagine why other people might have a different view on the title (on both sides, mind you) this might as well be virtually any other thread regarding the game. Your post isn't helping any.

I'm going to have to ask the thread to be civil before bans start being handed out.
Was a long time coming for both sides.

Anyway congrats to square fun game give me that dlc(taking too long)
 
This is fantastic news to me. I actually hope it gets a sequel.

XV hit all the right notes for me. It wasn't a big epic final fantasy style story, more like a weird medieval story about a modern boy band with a prince adventuring away, with minimal attention to the details. And I fucking adored every second of that.

...but I can absolutely see how it wouldn't appeal to a lot of people.
 
It had some good points but I really hope Squennix don't forget the importance of story and polish for the next one though. The game made me quite sad...

But glad so many are enjoying it! Guess just a traditionalist. Then again I do love XIV, bring on Stormblood.
 
I think it's fair to say that this news is mixed because, while it ensures the future of the franchise, its direction may follow FFXV.

I don't think most people want to see the series continue in this direction mechanically, and certainly not in its focus on character and storytelling priorities. Shit was a mess.

I hope SE doesn't take the wrong lessons from this.

Exactly the problem. However, I do think they will take the wrong lessons from this, how could they not? The game was clearly successful despite it not being finished and having the story massively fractured into the various pieces of media outside of the game (which only served to make SE more money). I will be very surprised if FFXVI doesn't follow the same formula... but thats a ways off, I think we'll get another game in the FFXV franchise sooner rather then later, likely using the exact engine, world map, ect.
 
Not if it's been in development for 5 years and is only part 1!

Yes, Part 1 of a supposed multi-part series which each segment is being developed as a full length game. I don't see the problem of a game that is supposedly fully length having a 5 year dev cycle. Especially so with AAA production values.
 
It's hilarious to me that they're still calling their big console titles "HD games". Somehow reeks of them still adjusting to developing HD titles. That transition phase was huge and painful for them.
 
Just beat it the other day. Game has some ungodly glaring issues. But I still loved it and am working on plat'ing it.

Anyway, Final Fantasy is one of my favorite series of all time. So any success Square has, makes me happy.
 
It's hilarious to me that they're still calling their big console titles "HD games". Somehow reeks of them still adjusting to developing HD titles. That transition phase was huge and painful for them.

It properly hurt division 2 and Osaka team the most.
 
I think it's fair to say that this news is mixed because, while it ensures the future of the franchise, its direction may follow FFXV.

I don't think most people want to see the series continue in this direction mechanically, and certainly not in its focus on character and storytelling priorities. Shit was a mess.

I hope SE doesn't take the wrong lessons from this.
Well, it hopefully won't be a decade long mish mash of developmental and story holdovers miraculously smashed together into a good game. So there's that to look forward to if you're feeling optimistic.

I'm really curious to see what the next couple entries into the series look like because I get the feeling the Final Fantasy teams have a lot of pent up creativity. They clearly aren't averse to throwing things out and trying something new, so I'm not really worried about the series being like FFXV from now on. FFVII was the hottest shit ever when it came out, but they didn't just make every game exactly like that afterwards.
 
Ehh, I'd argue it's inevitable.

We could all do with a little less ad-hominem, gloating and 'salt' in general, and I'd say if it's inevitable based on past threads, then those threads were problematic.

Hence, keep it civil.
 
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