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Square Enix Next-Gen precision

StephaneC

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Tokyo, Japan (November 16, 2005) Sony Computer Entertainment Inc., Microsoft Corporation, and Nintendo Co., Ltd. all have expressed plans to release next-generation game consoles between the years 2005 and 2006.

In this regard, speculation about the availability of FINAL FANTASY® series and DRAGON QUEST® series games on these systems has been reported on various media. However, we have made no concrete decision on our strategic direction of this issue.

We will continue to disclose any important information regarding business operations immediately after we make any relevant decision.
 
Hi! We're still here and still taking offers of who to kiss up to the most!!!
 
StephaneC said:
Tokyo, Japan (November 16, 2005) Sony Computer Entertainment Inc., Microsoft Corporation, and Nintendo Co., Ltd. all have expressed plans to release next-generation game consoles between the years 2005 and 2006.

In this regard, speculation about the availability of FINAL FANTASY® series and DRAGON QUEST® series games on these systems has been reported on various media. However, we have made no concrete decision on our strategic direction of this issue.

We will continue to disclose any important information regarding business operations immediately after we make any relevant decision.

...Is that you Perrin Kaplan? :lol
 
StephaneC said:
Tokyo, Japan (November 16, 2005) Sony Computer Entertainment Inc., Microsoft Corporation, and Nintendo Co., Ltd. all have expressed plans to release next-generation game consoles between the years 2005 and 2006.

In this regard, speculation about the availability of FINAL FANTASY® series and DRAGON QUEST® series games on these systems has been reported on various media. However, we have made no concrete decision on our strategic direction of this issue.

We will continue to disclose any important information regarding business operations immediately after we make any relevant decision.


i find it interesting, alot of ass kissing is going one. but i think if and when all square games on the ds sell like crazy them youknow nintneod will be getting the huge square love to sony had all along and not microsoft. :D
 
Xbox 360 has Final Fantasy 11
Revolution has Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronciles
PS3 has....


Sorry Sony, no Square-Enix love for you.

America agrees with this post.
 
littlewig said:
Xbox 360 has Final Fantasy 11
Revolution has Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronciles
PS3 has....


Sorry Sony, no Square-Enix love for you.

America agrees with this post.
:lol

Sony will get Dragon Quest and FF13, mark my words. I think the Revolution will get a new, exclusive IP as well. MS? I seriously doubt they'll get anything of relevance after FFXI.
 
I can't believe Sony helped Square out when they needed help. Sony invested $150 million in Square when that movie flopped big time and now Square is playing games with Sony. I bet Kuturagi is crying in his office right now.

Kuturagi-is-not-impressed-by-Xbox-360-2.jpg

Wada you muthafucka!
 
I have no doubt in my mind that Final Fantasy XIII will end up on the PS3, it's just fun that there isn't anything official from Square-Enix on the PS3 yet.

I may be wrong though.
 
PhoenixDark said:
:lol

Sony will get Dragon Quest and FF13, mark my words. I think the Revolution will get a new, exclusive IP as well. MS? I seriously doubt they'll get anything of relevance after FFXI.


I think in all this nintendo will be the biggest winner here from square. :)
 
Doom_Bringer said:
I can't believe Sony helped Square out when they needed help. Sony invested $150 million in Square when that movie flopped big time and now Square is playing games with Sony. I bet Kuturagi is crying in his office right now.


they can now casue the merged and its a brand new company
 
capslock said:
Square-Enix is like the hot chick in a sausage party.
:lol :lol it's so true

I don't get this. First Wada announced that FF would continue on PS3 at E3 and now he has changed his mind about that?

I don't think it was specifically FF13 he said but rather, "Final Fantasy". I could be wrong and this is totally nit-picking, but he didn't seem to specific to me. Anyway, SE is just being coy just like Sony. When Sony finally takes the wrap off the rest of the PS3 mystery, my bet is that it comes with a few SE announcements.
 
Doom_Bringer said:
I can't believe Sony helped Square out when they needed help. Sony invested $150 million in Square when that movie flopped big time and now Square is playing games with Sony. I bet Kuturagi is crying in his office right now.
What? And I suppose Square should be grateful for having the opportunity to release FFVII on the PlayStation too...
 
littlewig said:
I have no doubt in my mind that Final Fantasy XIII will end up on the PS3, it's just fun that there isn't anything official from Square-Enix on the PS3 yet.

I may be wrong though.

You are wrong.
Division 1 leader Yoshinori Kitase has already confirmed he's working on "the next Final Fantasy for PS3".

Booya.
 
ThunderEmperor said:
I think in all this nintendo will be the biggest winner here from square. :)

I think you are correct. The support SE is giving the DS is amazing, and it'll go a long way in further securing the DS' handheld (and possibly console) market dominance next year. With respect to consoles, Wada has already said Nintendo's Revolution online plans fall in line with their plans. FF:CC has already been announced, and I'm willing to bet FFXI and a new, exclusive IP are going to be headed to the Revolution as well.

SE's whoring around with Nintendo and MS isn't due to them being mad at Sony: they just want their money. They can't make it supporting one console next gen. SE is extremely smart, and they are going to do whatever it takes to stay on top.

And let us not forget they have always supported the winner of the console/handheld wars...NES-SNES-PSX-GBA-PS2-
DS
-___ (who will be next)
 
Doom_Bringer said:
I can't believe Sony helped Square out when they needed help. Sony invested $150 million in Square when that movie flopped big time and now Square is playing games with Sony. I bet Kuturagi is crying in his office right now.

Kuturagi-is-not-impressed-by-Xbox-360-2.jpg

Wada you muthafucka!
True :lol
 
PhoenixDark said:
And let us not forget they have always supported the winner of the console/handheld wars... NES-SNES-PSX-GBA-PS2-
DS
-___ (who will be next)
Wonderswan ? Sometimes, past quarrels can influate bizness decisions. I think that S-E (especially Square) has a small a-priori for Sony, even if the success of one of the two others can indeed change a lot of things.
 
So in other words their trying to say, "Get off our backs Microsoft, we will not make FF and DQ exclusive to the X-Box 360 next generation!" and then they will give MS and Nintendo the FF and DQ spin-offs while PS3 gets the main series. :) :D
 
ThunderEmperor said:
I think in all this nintendo will be the biggest winner here from square. :)

Agreed. And unlike MS, Nintendo can leverage low licensing fees on the DS, GBA, and Revolution game-download service to get more support.

Moneyhats don't just come in cash form =)
 
ThunderEmperor said:
I think in all this nintendo will be the biggest winner here from square. :)

I think so as well.

I love the chance to bash on Sony and right now they have the turbo on for the Wrong button. XBOX Live will most likely not be touched by Sony's "PLAN" and it isnt attracting new types of gameplay like Nintendo now is. Don't get me wrong I loved Sony and the Playstation was one of the greatest gaming platforms of all time if not ever. PS2 has many great games, but their whole "being an asshole" and "our consoles arent defective" attempt at their system has turned me off a great deal and I feel I'm not the only one here. Not to mention the mess of their UMD portable.
 
SanjuroTsubaki said:
I love the chance to bash on Sony and right now they have the turbo on for the Wrong button.

I'm sure other companies wish they had that button too. The 2 most succesful consoles of all time. Hit that button some Sony.
 
SolidSnakex said:
I'm sure other companies wish they had that button too. The 2 most succesful consoles of all time. Hit that button some Sony.

I'm not saying Sony is in the wrong yet. But from my interaction with customers over the PS2 post about 2-years after launch and PSP they aren't making alot of people happy. I would love for Sony to have a hit with the PS3, but they are the company that has made me afraid to purchase a console and fear it breaking.
 
argon said:
Agreed. And unlike MS, Nintendo can leverage low licensing fees on the DS, GBA, and Revolution game-download service to get more support.

Moneyhats don't just come in cash form =)
or .. MS could give them MS Office 2003 Enterprise edition for FREE !!!!! :D
 
Doom_Bringer said:
I don't get this. First Wada announced that FF would continue on PS3 at E3 and now he has changed his mind about that?

i think it's pretty much given that FF(XIII) is coming for the PS3 ... i think the real question here is: what about crossplatforming?
 
Tyrone Slothrop said:
i think it's pretty much given that FF(XIII) is coming for the PS3 ... i think the real question here is: what about 360?
they are probably just messing with Sony.

chances of 360 getting anything other than FFXI is pretty close to 0%.

And frankly by the time Square ships FFXII next gen would be over already.
 
"And this is surprising how? You aren't really using that as a way of showing how they'll go on console sare you?"

yes, i'd say it is surprising ... ONE game from a company that apparently owes Sony a living? Hmmm.

Is it an indication of how the console sales will go ? No, because they'll be going cross platform, and they aren't doing that on the PSP/DS ;)
 
DCharlie said:
yes, i'd say it is surprising ... ONE game from a company that apparently owes Sony a living? Hmmm.

Is it an indication of how the console sales will go ? No, because they'll be going cross platform, and they aren't doing that on the PSP/DS ;)

It's just how Square works, the DS is the follow up to a long line of success for Nintendo in hte handheld field so it was going to get Square's support. If anything this goes directly against what you and some others were hoping they'd do next gen by spreading their games around to multiple systems. It shows that they're still giving the leader of the market the majority of their support.
 
"It's just how Square works, the DS is the follow up to a long line of success for Nintendo in hte handheld field so it was going to get Square's support. If anything this goes directly against what you and some others were hoping they'd do next gen by spreading their games around to multiple systems. It shows that they're still giving the leader of the market the majority of their support."

.... or , they are looking at the cost of development vs. returns to decide whether its worth it or not, with consoles being different to handhelds?

Expectations for PSP games aren't the same as DS games - the costs involved are higher, and the returns to date don't look too great. The DS has lower standards and has garnered more support.

X360/Rev/PS3 cross development is a different ball game. for a start, you can use the same art assets and story across 3 platforms reaching more than just one user base. And if you go the route of using middleware (which i know you aren't enthusiastic about), you can leverage the same codebase too.

If money hats are to come, then that money hat is going to have to be larger than the projected income from two other consoles (at least, that's how i'd be selling my worth if i was SE). However, will any of the companies dish out the cash? *shrug* i dunno, maybe not - looking at how long FFXII is taking, the next gen war will be long gone by the time FF14 comes up (and god knows what will happen to F13 and F12)
 
DCharlie said:
.... or , they are looking at the cost of development vs. returns to decide whether its worth it or not, with consoles being different to handhelds?

There's different standards but couldn't they start porting/upgrading their PSOne games? Sure, but they don't because they're focusing on 1 platform in handhelds again. The only way the PSP support is getting anywhere near the DS' with them is if it starts outselling it. This is how they've always worked and they're doing it again.

DCharlie said:
X360/Rev/PS3 cross development is a different ball game. for a start, you can use the same art assets and story across 3 platforms reaching more than just one user base. And if you go the route of using middleware (which i know you aren't enthusiastic about), you can leverage the same codebase too.

But I think its going to once again come down to fanbases. The majority of Square's sales come from Japan. If the fanbases are once again lopsided as it very well could be are they going to bother spending the time and money to port to another system for a few extra copies sold? Would that really be worth it for them?
 
DCharlie said:
.... looking at how long FFXII is taking, the next gen war will be long gone by the time FF14 comes up (and god knows what will happen to F13 and F12)

supposedly, the development team of FF13 is totally different than that of 12 (the same team who did 10 get to do 13, from what i hear. could be wrong) .... so regardless of how long 12 takes, im sure ff13 will be released not too long after the next-gen wars begin

im sure the only reason they don't show ff13 footage is to avoid taking steam away from 12
 
Final Fantasy XII is taking so long because it was handed to Mutsano, who probably won't make a FF ever again. FFX team is working on the next FF for PS3.
 
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