At the same time, the local black community is not going to (nor should they) trust the local PD to provide an honest assessment of the evidence or the culpability of the officer. So, this is going to be one of those "relative" truths, no matter what. And that's a problem.
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St. Louis Police Officer Shoots, Kills Teen During Pedestrian Check
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At the same time, the local black community is not going to (nor should they) trust the local PD to provide an honest assessment of the evidence or the culpability of the officer. So, this is going to be one of those "relative" truths, no matter what. And that's a problem.
Yeah. Most standard issue police pistols have at least 12 rounds.
SuperAndroid17
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Witnesses counted all 16 shots huh?
Sounds like bullshit
Sounds like bullshit
It said "as many as sixteen". It could have been around 12, but certain witnesses miscounted.
Solid Samus
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when shit like this goes down
replace non-descriptive references to the officer with the officer's name
the internet will help make sure the right people are miserable and unemployed for the rest of their lives
make examples out of these fucks
a shame there's a myriad of things keeping that from being feasible. but man, oh man, half these shits I just come away from thinking "any other murderer or alleged whatever and it'd be a mugshot and a name repeated 50 times in the article"
i don't disagree. that's just my kneejerk reaction.
Velcro Fly
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I'm not sure I'm in favor of ruining someone's life before we know exactly what happened. We don't know if it was a gun or a sandwich.
Teaching white Americans not to be terrified of black Americans and drastically reducing the flow and availability of guns would be good starts.
ElectricKaibutsu
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Even if he had a gun, we still don't know who fired first.
If only the cop had a camera on him. Every cop should have a camera. This would solve so many problems.
If only the cop had a camera on him. Every cop should have a camera. This would solve so many problems.
St. Louis city police chief is doing a press conference now. Confirmed that suspect shot at police 3 times and police have confirmed suspects gun is jammed so most likely suspect tried to keep firing. Cop shot his weapon 17 times did not confirm how many times suspect was shot.
He also did confirm they're interviewing witnesses with some claiming they saw the suspect shooting his weapon so we'll see how this go.
Police vehicles were damaged but no businesses were damaged.
He also did confirm they're interviewing witnesses with some claiming they saw the suspect shooting his weapon so we'll see how this go.
Police vehicles were damaged but no businesses were damaged.
Allez Phill
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Cops just spray bullets hoping to get a fucking hit. So damn bad.
I guess it's time for me to get to the bed. I would love to go down there to walk with them, but I really feel like I should stay out of it.
I think the rain will eventually cause the people over there to head home. I hear sirens up and down Grand which is a street that cuts through many parts of the city.
Stay safe by only eating pizzas and soups.
Live stream http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/...rate-after-police-shoot-and-kill-18-year-old/
This is just down the ways from me, might go down
This is just down the ways from me, might go down
Allez Phill
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I was thinking of going, but I have classes. Be safe, dude.
That's another issue altogether. There are a lot of instances of Black cops killing Black teens, and that's still institutional racism being perpetuated.
Black Mamba
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xDUMPWEEDx
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It's extremely difficult to hit a moving target, and will oftentimes result in grazing wounds or hits to limbs. A suspect full of adrenaline won't drop from these.
Also a magazine capacity of 15+ rounds is most likely a 9mm, which doesn't have the sheer stopping power of lower capacity pistols (.40, .45 ACP, etc )
TheRedSnifit
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If the cops say he had a gun, then this isn't going to go anywhere without video evidence. Even if it's planted.
Yes? Fix that too. They all play into the same outcomes.
benjipwns
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See, first it's shaping foods into guns, then it's escalating behavior and violence. Better to just shoot them in the back from the start.
Nappuccino
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Might as well shoot them when they kick in the womb. That violent behavior is proof they start that way.
benjipwns
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But then you have to deal with the estate of the fetus and all that stuff.
I don't understand what the hell is wrong with these uneducated trigger happy cops. You only need 1 well placed shot to disarm a suspect. The point of shooting is to disarm not to kill especially in a situation like these. Honestly I'm not surprised though, it's the USA. One of if not the most screwed up country in the world.
I just saw this on the news. what's going on with these bullet-happy cops? crazy stuff. What happened to the tasers and batons and pepper sprays?
This. if the cop is off-duty and working for a private firm, he is acting out of the scope of his sworn duties. Something is off here. I doubt we'll ever find the truth, I'm sure there will be a coverup, They don't want another ferguson.
This. if the cop is off-duty and working for a private firm, he is acting out of the scope of his sworn duties. Something is off here. I doubt we'll ever find the truth, I'm sure there will be a coverup, They don't want another ferguson.
Nappuccino
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There's no way to shoot a gun without it being lethal force. Sure, not everyone shot by a bullet dies, but your odds skyrocket when you are.
Things like tazers, pepper spray, and bean-bags are non-lethal and cops have to judge what is the most appropriate to use based on the level of threat coming at them. Most of those are rather short-range and it's not a fool-proof system, unfortunately.
The United States and its police force have tons of problems, but aren't you Brazilian?
cartoon_soldier
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If you are a young black man, make sure you don't hold anything in your hands at anytime.
Keep the hands open so all 5 fingers can be seen.
Pull hands up
And always walk with your hands up in the air, with all five fingers visibile
That will give you the best chances at not getting shot by a cop.
Keep the hands open so all 5 fingers can be seen.
Pull hands up
And always walk with your hands up in the air, with all five fingers visibile
That will give you the best chances at not getting shot by a cop.
Nappuccino
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But then they'll have 10 guns.
At least until they notice your suspicious behaviour and they ask for your ID.
Black Republican
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bring a white friend too, preferably male
Earthpainting
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At this point African Americans are going to evolve into having mitten-hands that are incapable of using firearms as a natural defence mechanism, before society does something against this shit.
BumblebeeCody
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Who's counting while someone is being shot?
You clearly know nothing about shooting. Do you realize how hard it is to accurately hit a man sized target that is running away from you and firing back?
And what do you mean the point of shooting is to disarm? If a cop has to start shooting it means the situation has already escalated past disarming the suspect. Real life is nothing like cops shows on TV.
Nikodemos
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The fuck is it with cops and their shitty-ass eyesight lately? Is there some sort of peer pressure from other cops not to wear glasses? "Don't wear em, you'll look like a nurrd and they wun respeck yer authoratae" sort of shit? I swear, a lot of recent shootings seem to have occured as a result of policemen being mole-sighted.
thecouncil
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What if the cop ate the sandwich to get rid of the evidence?
"Hey, hey, he's just around the corner! What happened cop!"
"OH SHIT, NOMNOMNOMNOM!"
...it'd be good for a newspaper comic, at least.
xDUMPWEEDx
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Just out of curiosity, why is it the Cop's bad eyesight? Why not the witness?
A gun was recovered at the scene. Forensics should be able to determine whether the gun was shot and whether the victim fired it.
DonasaurusRex said:
Buzzfeed said:
Still, not conclusive that the teen fired the shots or its his gun. GSR tests should show whether he fired a weapon. Its unclear whether 'ballistic evidence' includes bullets fired from the gun, but I would assume it doesn't.
DonasaurusRex
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well he died so wheres the gun and bullets the man fired at the officer. A pedestrian check sounds like a terrible idea , especially considering the city this happened in.
I'm not liking how things are still very sketchy in terms of the actual information we have to go on, and how if it was actually self-defense in this case, it could reflect poorly on the protests and even affect the coverage of the Darren Wilson grand jury. If this were an Occupy thing, I would've voted against last night's march until we had more information to go on. But I'm just saying that on what little information I have to go on over the internet - maybe they had better sources.
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