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Goreomedy

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Do you see yourself upgrading to HDTV in the next 5 years? If so, at what price point would you make that leap? Just curious.
 
Yeah, I'm going to be looking for a job after Christmas and an HDTV is the first thing I'm going to look into buying. Price wise, I don't think I'd pay more than $1500.
 
brandonh83 said:
Yeah, I'm going to be looking for a job after Christmas and an HDTV is the first thing I'm going to look into buying. Price wise, I don't think I'd pay more than $1500.

For that amount you could probably get a 40+ incher (My father get a 50" Sony HDTV for $1900 and that was about a year ago)
 
Yes I'm a Standard Def. gamer, and no I don't see myself upgrading.

Why? Because I don't give a shit. Certainly there's a big difference between the two, but not a 1500+ difference. Even for $1000, it's not worth it to me. ... 'Cuz I just don't care. The HD hype train has no effect on me.
 
i've looked at various hdtvs and none have impressed me enough for the money they cost. i also can't see the point in buying something so volatile. whatever you buy today is cheaper and better a month later! imo currently the whole move to hdtv is not worth it, it makes dvd look crap and there's no way i'm upgrading my collection for at least 5-10 years, i've already been burned going from vhs to dvd! crt hides the flaws of sd nicely and the overall picture quality is fine.

after seeing the benefits of oled (organic led) and how much better it is than plasma and led, i've decided to wait until a large lcd/plasma hdtv is stable and much (much) cheaper or just stick with crt until oled is freely available, which is the most likely. i can wait, even if it takes several years.
 
Most likely, but it depends on a few factors.

1. The proliferation of digital broadcasts. Not enough content right now, and SD resoultions looks like ass on a lot of HDTVs.

2. Price. I'll spend upwards of 2 grand on a television set, but I want that 2K to get me more than what it'll buy me today.

3. Whether I own a house yet or not. I've jumped around from apartment to apartment over the past few years and I don't feel like lugging around anything more than my already "too big" 27" set.

4. New Technology. If I can buy a 1080P set in 2010, but there's going to be something a lot better looming, I'll probably hold out. I feel bad for people who bought EDTVs and sets that don't do 1080p.

5. This list is full of shit. All it's going to take is spending a few more trips to my friend's house before I make the plunge and buy one. FUCK. Well...I gotta satisfy the 3rd point on my list first...but once that's done, I'll find myself in the "HD ERA" for sure.
 
I was going to get an HDTV this fall, but I decided to wait until next spring/summer. I was looking at a 46' Sony LCD for ~$2000. Hopefully next year I can get somthing similar for ~$1500.
 
I'm planning on getting one around the PAL PS3 launch, so probably in a year from now. I want to spend around 600-700 euros on one, but I'm not looking for something very big, around 26-29 inches or so.
 
Lionheart said:
I'm planning on getting one around the PAL PS3 launch, so probably in a year from now. I want to spend around 600-700 euros on one, but I'm not looking for something very big, around 26-29 inches or so.

I got my 26" Samsung HDTV for $700 (doesn't do 720p though but upconversion is compareable). I'm not sure how HDTVs are priced in PAL regions but if anything like in the US then you should be getting a nice sized HDTV for 700 euros.
 
I was considering it. But my wife is not interested in spending that much money on a TV, and she is getting impatient with me bringing up the subject. Therefore, it is a simple decision for me not to get one rigt now. Why? Getting laid is infinitely more important than high definition gaming. And I find my 27" Wega in 16-9" mode works well.
 
definately not. My eyes are not trained to appreciate the difference yet, I want to keep it this way for as long as possible. (esp since i'm buying a rev :lol)

Also I'm in Europe and PAL land is always wonky on this stuff. I'm in no rush until they sort their shit out. Actually using my laptop for my television viewing is perfectly acceptable to me at the moment. And I only handheld game presently.
 
I'd like to but I have some problems with current HDTV's as of now..

bang for the buck - There isn't enough HD content yet and the biggest problem for me is how complex and quickly changing the HD market is. It's a big purchase and most people including myself want to have an understanding that they are getting something that will be prevelant in the future. Even trying to read about all the different HD tech's is depressing as it seems like they all come with a downside.. well these are nice and display a good picture, BUT you have a chance for burn-in and they don't support 1080p which may be out in the near future. I always here DLP is great, but then some people say it can have issues with playing games.

CRT's seem to be the best at not having a problem of course they are huge and heavy. :(
 
Forgotten Ancient said:
The proliferation of digital broadcasts. Not enough content right now, and SD resoultions looks like ass on a lot of HDTVs.

I don't get these comments. Every single non reality drama and sitcon is now in HD, as well as about half of all major sporting events. What are people waiting for?
 
Docpan said:
Yes I'm a Standard Def. gamer, and no I don't see myself upgrading.

Why? Because I don't give a shit. Certainly there's a big difference between the two, but not a 1500+ difference. Even for $1000, it's not worth it to me. ... 'Cuz I just don't care. The HD hype train has no effect on me.

Yep, me too. I mean, I would like an HDTV, but it's very low on my list of priorities. Also, I have slowly been losing interest in gaming. Even when I find a game I like I just get bored of it quickly or find that I can only play in short bursts...

I don't see myself getting a console at or enar launch this generation. If the Revolution is really cheap I might get that, but otherwise I think I'll wait a few years.
 
catfish said:
definately not. My eyes are not trained to appreciate the difference yet, I want to keep it this way for as long as possible. (esp since i'm buying a rev :lol)

Also I'm in Europe and PAL land is always wonky on this stuff. I'm in no rush until they sort their shit out. Actually using my laptop for my television viewing is perfectly acceptable to me at the moment. And I only handheld game presently.

I thought you were from NZ?
 
shantyman said:
I don't get these comments. Every single non reality drama and sitcon is now in HD, as well as about half of all major sporting events. What are people waiting for?

HD services haven't even gotten started over here in the UK, and the situation is the same for most of the rest of Europe. It'd be kind of odd to have to have one TV for gaming and another TV for actually watching TV on.
 
shantyman said:
I don't get these comments. Every single non reality drama and sitcon is now in HD, as well as about half of all major sporting events. What are people waiting for?


Boy, I must be seeing the wrong half of sports. That's precisely what I'm talking about when I say SDTV looks bad on an HDTV. I watched almost every game in last year's NBA Playoffs...but, I believe outside of TNT (or maybe it was TNT/TBS) everything was still broadcast in standard. It looked like complete ass.

Also, FoxSportsDetroit doesn't do High-Def broadcasts yet - unless I'm missing something. It's almost painful to see the Redwings & Pistons like that. Maybe I'm just in a shitty market, but until it's resolved, I stand behind my original post. I don't get comments like yours trying to debase others reasoning.
 
Docpan said:
Yes I'm a Standard Def. gamer, and no I don't see myself upgrading.

Why? Because I don't give a shit. Certainly there's a big difference between the two, but not a 1500+ difference. Even for $1000, it's not worth it to me. ... 'Cuz I just don't care. The HD hype train has no effect on me.
That's how I'm starting to feel. I may test the waters by picking up one of those VGA cables though.
 
Goreomedy said:
Do you see yourself upgrading to HDTV in the next 5 years? If so, at what price point would you make that leap? Just curious.

No. I don't replace working appliances for the latest. If my set goes kaput, then yes. $800 for a 32 inch Panasonic or Sharp HDTV.
 
I'd like to think I'm not gonna buy an HDTV unless I absolutely have to, since I'm worried about how standard broadcasting and regular DVDs might look. Not to mention my current-gen consoles. Once more people get it, I guess I'll jump on the bandwagon.

Who knows though, I might have more money to blow in the near future, and buy one on impulse. As it stands now, I'm more than satisfied with my 27" Toshiba flat-screen SDTV.
 
Forgotten Ancient said:
Boy, I must be seeing the wrong half of sports. That's precisely what I'm talking about when I say SDTV looks bad on an HDTV. I watched almost every game in last year's NBA Playoffs...but, I believe outside of TNT (or maybe it was TNT/TBS) everything was still broadcast in standard. It looked like complete ass.

Actually SDTV (on competent HDTV sets) actually look pretty good. For example, my HDTV turns any SDTV output to 480p, cleans any interference and digtially enhances the pictures.

It hugely depends on the TV set though.
 
BlueTsunami said:
Actually SDTV (on competent HDTV sets) actually look pretty good. For example, my HDTV turns any SDTV output to 480p, cleans any interference and digtially enhances the pictures.

It hugely depends on the TV set though.

Yup, I've heard that. The plasma my friend has that we watched the playoffs on looks like ass in SDTV. He bought a new set about 2 months ago (either DLP or LCOS) that he says looks much better in SD. I haven't witnessed this yet, but I've heard it from others as well.

I'm basically just waiting until I have a place to put one where I won't worry about moving it again and agan and again. My other reasoning, while valid IMO, is just there to artificially justify me not getting one. ... I sure do want one :(
 
P90 said:
No. I don't replace working appliances for the latest.

yup.

let me know when my current set is going to fry and I'll give you a date when I start *considering* hdtv.

It's certainly not worth it to me to upgrade for games or tv, and I almost never watch dvds...

If I could surf the web with the revolution controller that'd make me consider it, but seeing as N. isn't going the HD route...

I was wowing a pc gamer yesterday with current ps2 stuff (DQVIII, SotC, Psychonauts) on my normal tv (svideo). The art and style of games is more important than pure horsepower now.
 
Wendo said:
I thought you were from NZ?

indeed, live in Holland now though, but it's essentially the same, just that New Zealand takes a marginally harder reaming on price :lol
 
Nope not unless my TV breaks somehow! 13" Composite Video for the win. Also I only watch Cartoon Network and the Weather Channel and neither of those have/need hi-def content or whatever so it isn't as if I'd have the TV excuse to fall back on for "needing" one.
 
My Tivo addiction and the fact that I'm not buying a 360 in the immediate future means that I can be patient. I really want to see how things like LED backlighting and 1080p panels shake down.
 
Speevy said:
If I come upon a large sum of money. Otherwise, no.

Yeah, if I won the lottery or won one of the competitions I've entered, then yeah I'd upgrade to HDTV. Otherwise, it's totally not going to happen.
 
If you are on a budget, the best upgrade path for the next few years is a widescreen PC monitor with component inputs. You get better resolution than the cheap HDTVs, and you get double the functionality.

Hell, I've got some friends who live in a shoebox apartment in NYC that are considering using a 24" widescreen Dell monitor for double-duty as their TV.
 
In five years? Hell if I know.

In the near future? No way in hell.

I totally understand buying one, but I'd probably go the VGA route if I had a next-gen system.
 
yes upgrading before the PS3 launch :)

I am hoping the sony A10 42" is down to $1500 by then. I can't see my self paying more than $2000 for a TV. I am also planning on spending around $1000 for a proper 5.1 (7.1??) audio setup.
 
All the HDTVs available in the UK at the moment seem to be 720p. I won't be buying until we get the full 1080 as I intend to buy a HDV camcorder as well. I'll probably spend GBP1000.
 
I doubt I'd pay much more than $500 for a TV and it'd need to be at least 35" widescreen. So...not for a while.

It's funny how 35" standard def TVs were never under $500 but people expect 35" HDTVs to be that cheap.
 
Absolutely, an upgrade to HD probably within a year. Prices have fallen nicely over the past year.

Price - between $2000-5000.
 
beermonkey@tehbias said:
It's funny how 35" standard def TVs were never under $500 but people expect 35" HDTVs to be that cheap.

My CRT TV is 27" and cost me $200. At 16:9 a comparible sized HDTV would be about 35" or so. I'm not going any smaller than what I have now. If a company can't make a 35" HDTV for $500 someday then I won't be buying one. Simple as that.
 
We bought an extremely good sony crt 72cm, it's really great. But seeing MGS4 makes me want to buy an HDTV when the game comes out or around that time.

Does anyone have numbers/statistics on how fast/slow HDTV prices area going down? That would be much appreciated.

At the local Media Markt they have a X360 booth with the Samusung HDTV and the games (PGR3 for instance) look extremely good. Very clean and sharp. I am ready for HDTV...in a couple of years :)
 
brandonh83 said:
Yeah, I'm going to be looking for a job after Christmas and an HDTV is the first thing I'm going to look into buying.
Same here, though I'll probably get a few other things first. But an HDTV is the first big item that I really want to get. I'm hoping to get one of those nice Samsung sets that the "official" X360 demo model, and hoping to get a 20-25 inch for under $7-800.
 
For me, I'd have a difficult time justifying more than 1500 dollars. Only because I'm not made of money. :lol
 
BlueTsunami said:
Actually SDTV (on competent HDTV sets) actually look pretty good. For example, my HDTV turns any SDTV output to 480p, cleans any interference and digtially enhances the pictures.

It hugely depends on the TV set though.
Well a lot of the time it's the fault of STB. Some of them just have terrible SD tuners, specifically Motorola boxes.
 
Goreomedy said:
Do you see yourself upgrading to HDTV in the next 5 years? If so, at what price point would you make that leap? Just curious.

It's not so much the price that bothers me, it's the existing tech. Despite its bulk, weight, and limited size, there still isn't anything that beats out CRT in terms of overall picture quality, IMO. Seems every piece of tech out there has some sort of significant drawback (ghosting, latency, weak blacks, limited viewing range, etc.), which is why the Carbon Nanotube stuff sounds so appealing. I wouldn't mind shelling out a few grand for an HDTV, but I want it to be something I'm satisfied with for the next 7+ years. At this point in time, there isn't anything on the market feels like a safe, competent long term investment.
 
Docpan said:
Yes I'm a Standard Def. gamer, and no I don't see myself upgrading.

Why? Because I don't give a shit. Certainly there's a big difference between the two, but not a 1500+ difference. Even for $1000, it's not worth it to me. ... 'Cuz I just don't care. The HD hype train has no effect on me.


Same here. The most I will spend on a TV is $150.
 
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