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Star Trek Enterprise 2/25!

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BigJonsson

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Wow

I'm really still liking this season...

So thats why the TOS Klingons were all fucked up looking haha

And the ship-to-ship boaring while at warp speed, wow

Fuck Paramount
 
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Fuzzy

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Just to be a stickler, it doesn't explain why when Kahless was shown in ToS (I can't remember the episode's name) he looked like all the other ToS Klingons even though he was alive more than 1,000 years before this episode.
 
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ShadowRed

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Fuzzy said:
Just to be a stickler, it doesn't explain why when Kahless was shown in ToS (I can't remember the episode's name) he looked like all the other ToS Klingons even though he was alive more than 1,000 years before this episode.
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When was Kahless shown in ToS?
 
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Fuzzy

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It was the episode when they had the crew fighting villains from the past on a planet.
 
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DarthWoo

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It was energy beings responsible for that right? Maybe they were just stupid and based their interpretation of Kahless on what the Klingons they saw looked like.
 
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Marty Chinn said:
Heh is this like the first time that they've actually restored continuity and not destroyed it? =)
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Pretty much. It also nicely explains Koor and crew from ToS and then the restoration of their ridges in DS9.
 
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Marty Chinn said:
Heh is this like the first time that they've actually restored continuity and not destroyed it? =)
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I'm still waiting for the first time they've destroyed continuity.
 
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When has Enterprise messed up with continuity? I think they've been pretty good with it. Heck they've even managed to be faithful to Star Trek V, of all they things they could take from.
 
ManaByte

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THE EYE said:
I'm still waiting for the first time they've destroyed continuity.
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Pudding Tame said:
When has Enterprise messed up with continuity? I think they've been pretty good with it. Heck they've even managed to be faithful to Star Trek V, of all they things they could take from.
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TOS said there was no ship-to-ship communications back when the interstellar Romulan War happened. The presence of viewscreens and audio communications between ships kills that.

But other than that, they've been really careful.
 
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Trip rebooting Enterprise's OS after that Klingon spyware infected them, hahaha that was funny.

:lol
 
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ManaByte said:
TOS said there was no ship-to-ship communications back when the interstellar Romulan War happened. The presence of viewscreens and audio communications between ships kills that.

But other than that, they've been really careful.
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I'm pretty sure they just said that there was no audio communication between them, not that they were incapable of it, but I couldn't quote it exactly.

At any rate, I think the watermark needs to be a little higher than that, or none of them really meet the continuity challenge, so enterprise not managing is hardly the worst thing in the world. I tend to presume that if only one line needs to change in order to make it fit, it's good enough.

For a franchise where continuity is a big weak point like Trek, I think they've done an incredible job preserving it in most of the ways that count. There are so many reasons to bitch about Enterprise that are *true*, why pick on something they've done right?


Um, how'd they link with Trek 5?
 
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Saturnman

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Am I the only one who has no feel for this episode? The main plot is unnecessary and merely fan service, Reed's divided loyalties serve no point, neither does wasting 15 minutes fixing the warp drive. And why pretend Trip is really leaving, the warp engine is falling apart without him, not to mention T'Pol... :)
 
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Saturnman said:
Am I the only one who has no feel for this episode? The main plot is unnecessary and merely fan service, Reed's divided loyalties serve no point, neither does wasting 15 minutes fixing the warp drive. And why pretend Trip is really leaving, the warp engine is falling apart without him, not to mention T'Pol... :)
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The episode was good, but it did contain a lot of fluff and annoying bits. For example, how little they focused on Section 31. It was the worst tease EVER. I mean it's the final season, not many episodes left, and then they just bring in something that could easily be made into a few seasons of plot ... or another Star Trek, and just brush it off. Plus, I think it would have been cool of Flox was killed off somehow in this episode. Not because the character's bad or anything, but it's the final season. Can't they have at least one main character die off.
 
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ManDudeChild said:
The episode was good, but it did contain a lot of fluff and annoying bits. For example, how little they focused on Section 31. It was the worst tease EVER. I mean it's the final season, not many episodes left, and then they just bring in something that could easily be made into a few seasons of plot ... or another Star Trek, and just brush it off. Plus, I think it would have been cool of Flox was killed off somehow in this episode. Not because the character's bad or anything, but it's the final season. Can't they have at least one main character die off.
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They probably didn't know for sure, when they filmed this episode, whether or not it was coming back. This episode was probably filmed sometime in the middle of last year, and the decision was merely a month ago.

It happens a lot. See Earth II for one of the more tragic examples. Or the balancing act that was S4/5 of B5.
 
Tortfeasor

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I am glad they didn't focus on Section 31 too much... It was hokey crap on DS:9 and it continued to be on Enterprise, even for the few minutes of exposure it had. What's next? Reed waking up with a section 31 guy on his bunk? He even looks and sounds like Julian... It was just a dumb subplot imho, but still a great episode.
 
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Wow, that was excellent. I've been watching S1/S2 DS9 episodes for the past week, and it's amazing how much better Enterprise's lighting, sets, and direction are, and how much more exciting the editing is. As for the plot, yes, I was excited from the outset of the ep, and they kept the tension high throughout. Hernandez ROCKS. And sure, this season has been a treat for the fans, but they've put together one high-quality episode after another with plenty of what Trek should be all about, so I don't see a problem.

I'm hoping beyond hope that it gets continued somehow or another. I'd much rather see more of what Coto can come up with than to wait for a continuation past TNG or whatever.
 
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Black Deatha

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To continue with how I have started 1 or more other Ent thread post's:

FUCK PARAMOUNT

God it pisses me off, this season is a thing of beauty. has any one else noticed the cammera direction has really changed this season? It almost reminds me of Firefly in some ways, with the zooms and such.

Tortfeasor said:
I am glad they didn't focus on Section 31 too much... It was hokey crap on DS:9 and it continued to be on Enterprise, even for the few minutes of exposure it had. What's next? Reed waking up with a section 31 guy on his bunk? He even looks and sounds like Julian... It was just a dumb subplot imho, but still a great episode.
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I dont know how you can say that, Section 31 kicks ass, I would almost want to see a series based on them, it's a freeking undercover behind the scenes not even know of by Star Fleet agency.

It sucks watching the remaining episodes knowing it's not going to go on :(

~Black Deatha
 
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I loved the idea of section 31. When they were first introduced Odo made the perfect statement about how he was surprised the Federation coudl have suvived WITHOUT and organization like them. Romulans have the Tal,Shiar. Cardassians had the Obsidian Order. It's one of the many things I liekd abotu DS9. DS9 did a great job of showing the federations dark side. Section 31. Bashir and O'Brian's way of getting information from section 31. Even Sisko's use of Garak to trick the Romulans into helping the Federation in the Dominion War.

It was one of those thing tha tI htink worked really well in small doeses. It was kind of like Q and the Borg in TNG. they work good by not being overused. Section 31 was a nice twist that ended up fitting into the
 
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Saturnman

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DrForester said:
I loved the idea of section 31. When they were first introduced Odo made the perfect statement about how he was surprised the Federation coudl have suvived WITHOUT and organization like them. Romulans have the Tal,Shiar. Cardassians had the Obsidian Order. It's one of the many things I liekd abotu DS9. DS9 did a great job of showing the federations dark side. Section 31. Bashir and O'Brian's way of getting information from section 31. Even Sisko's use of Garak to trick the Romulans into helping the Federation in the Dominion War.

It was one of those thing tha tI htink worked really well in small doeses. It was kind of like Q and the Borg in TNG. they work good by not being overused. Section 31 was a nice twist that ended up fitting into the
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But many Trek purists see it as a betrayal of the original Trek concept. It was supposed to be humanity getting its act together and finally solving most of the world's problems. It's an utopia, where good ultimately triumphs. I think Section 31 was interesting and gave a more realistic explanation as to why the Federation survived for so long, but it does show the goody Trek world we all know is really a façade.

I believe Gene Roddenberry was also against the idea of the Maquis.
 
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Was the Maqui even a thought when Rodenberry was still alive? I know they showed up in season 6 or 7 of TNG and season 1 of DS9.
 
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Saturnman

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I'm not sure if it was the Maqui per se, but the idea of a group of rebel Federation citizens is what Roddenberry rejected.

It seems he was only willing to allow a few corrupt admirals here and there (all of which get court-martialed/killed by the end of each episode).
 
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Saturnman said:
It seems he was only willing to allow a few corrupt admirals here and there (all of which get court-martialed/killed by the end of each episode).
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Heh, my favorite is the TOS one who thought, "Hey, maybe the nazis weren't so bad after all" and modelled a planet after them and fucked it up. Kirk toppled the neoneonazi regime, of course.
 
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Fuzzy

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BigJonsson said:
No new episodes until April 25

The final 4 :/
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Star Trek's website has April 15th as the return date. BTW I'm pretty sure there are 6 episodes left (the site only shows the names for the next 4) since there's been 16 so far this season and 22 are scheduled. When they come back it'll be the last 6 episodes in a row to end the series.
 
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DrForester said:
Was the Maqui even a thought when Rodenberry was still alive? I know they showed up in season 6 or 7 of TNG and season 1 of DS9.
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Roddenberry died before the sixth season started. However, they were planning the first spin-off (DS9) while he was alive and Voyager was barely in the pipeline. The idea was brought up to him, and AFAIK he did reject the idea of Federation renegades.

Fuzzy said:
Star Trek's website has April 15th as the return date. BTW I'm pretty sure there are 6 episodes left (the site only shows the names for the next 4) since there's been 16 so far this season and 22 are scheduled. When they come back it'll be the last 6 episodes in a row to end the series.
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The fourth season will not reach 22 episodes. I believe it is 18 or 19 as they are not ending with the 100 episodes they wanted for syndication.
 
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Fuzzy

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ManaByte said:
The fourth season will not reach 22 episodes. I believe it is 18 or 19 as they are not ending with the 100 episodes they wanted for syndication.
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The last I heard (the week after it was officially cancelled), it was said that they were ending the series with 98 episodes.

Season 1 = 26
Season 2 = 26
Season 3 = 24
Season 4 = 22 (16 already aired)
Total = 98
 
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ShadowRed

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ManaByte said:
Roddenberry died before the sixth season started. However, they were planning the first spin-off (DS9) while he was alive and Voyager was barely in the pipeline. The idea was brought up to him, and AFAIK he did reject the idea of Federation renegades.
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From what I understand he was asked to do a spin off tons of times, but he always said no. The minute he died they started work on DS9.
 
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