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Eh, that's a philosophical point you can actually go either way on.
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Eh, that's a philosophical point you can actually go either way on.
Stouffers
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Because I wanted to reference Kirk’s shitty death.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Only watched the 1st episode but I've been following everything RLM has been saying about it.
GreyHorace
Member
You know what scifi show handled sex in a fun and non cringey way?
I'm sick and tired of people dismissing Farscape as 'that show with Muppets.' Fuck them. Farscape is the best modern scifi tv show I've seen. Far better than Battlestar Galactica, Doctor Who, Star Trek Discovery and Picard.
Ownage
Member
I haven't seen it, but I'm down for any good sci-fi with a solid script. I'd rather see real / physical than CGI, regardless of circumstance. 1980s Ridley Scott holla.You know what scifi show handled sex in a fun and non cringey way?
I'm sick and tired of people dismissing Farscape as 'that show with Muppets.' Fuck them. Farscape is the best modern scifi tv show I've seen. Far better than Battlestar Galactica, Doctor Who, Star Trek Discovery and Picard.
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GreyHorace
Member
It's fantastic. It's from a time when scifi still had a weird and kooky vibe before it got all serious and topical with the Battlestar Galactica re-imagining in 2003 (that show is way overrated btw). BSG was the beginning of the end and shows like Discovery and Picard have been following in it's wake.
You can catch all four seasons of Farscape on Amazon Prime.
Fuz
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Woah, easy now.
Stiflers Mom
Banned
I just started watching it, and it's really nice. In an oldschool way.You know what scifi show handled sex in a fun and non cringey way?
I'm sick and tired of people dismissing Farscape as 'that show with Muppets.' Fuck them. Farscape is the best modern scifi tv show I've seen. Far better than Battlestar Galactica, Doctor Who, Star Trek Discovery and Picard.
The muppets in it are amazing, but are really not the biggest thing about the show.
Rygel must be the greatest muppet of all times though.
I swear his acting is better than 99% of the cast of the Star Wars sequels.
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
Well, the transport complication is why I mentioned the "2 Rikers" episode above, where he is essentially split during transport.
But that said, the question of identity is slightly less vexing with transporters than with "uploading your consciousness." The official line on transporters is that they convert your matter to pure energy+pattern, send that energy over, and re-convert back into matter. There's more continuity on paper, even if it's still pretty complicated philosophically and raises some identity questions.
But to merely "transfer consciousness" as a pattern, with no continuity of your matter / energy at all? That raises even more complex questions. It would mean that you can create Picard clones at will, and treat them all as the same person. I stand by the notion that to permit this in Star Trek would require major debate amongst the characters, and is a tremendous paradigm shift in the technology permitted on the franchise.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
The original BSG was pretty awesome though. Pretty much the first Star Wars-like TV show.
And the theme was incredible.
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I loved when they brought this back as like the anthem of the colonies or whatever in the remake
Stiflers Mom
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I loved watching this as a kid so much. But I also enjoyed the remake.
on topic:
That consciousness debate is an interesting one. I think it's one of the reasons why other Sci Fi shows usually avoided beaming/teleporting.
On Star Trek, I kind of accepted that it's like fantasy magic teleporting with the consciousness still intact, although it's described as that "destroy original -> create copy" thing. Dunno why. Maybe just because I watched it for such a long time (>30years) before I asked myself that question.
Scanning a dying persons mind to create a copy and plant it into an Android is weird though.
And what's more weird, like written above in a post, is, that there is not even a philosophical debate in the show if this is ethically correct.
How will people react to this android in future? Will Starfleet listen to an android Picard copy? How will Riker and Troy react to him?
It's so weird this is simply accepted within the show.
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I watched the Abrams Trek’s again last weekend and was surprised how many times the scripts had to explain why the transporters couldn’t be used. It’s like the transporters are such a powerful deus ex machina that they have to provide reasons as to why they are so limited.
“I can’t lock onto them as they are moving around too much but I can beam you down onto the same hi speed craft that they are standing on”
Yeah right.
“I can’t lock onto them as they are moving around too much but I can beam you down onto the same hi speed craft that they are standing on”
Yeah right.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
I was thinking of something. When that La Sirena captain told Raffi about his old Captain and the Androids they met, it reminded me of some of the Trek books. Thinking about it, that dark story kinda scared me in the same way some of the dark stories of the Trek books did. Especially the Shatner ones where he was in the TNG timeline.
Just a memory and a thought.
Just a memory and a thought.
GreyHorace
Member
Just posted this at the Red Letter Media OT:
Plinkett review of Star Trek Picard?
Yes please!
Plinkett review of Star Trek Picard?
Yes please!
clipperslipper
Member
I hope we don't have to wait too long for this. I'm planning on sipping a nice single malt and smoking a cigar whilst I watch, just like I'm doing right now.
Shizumapower
Member
Just posted this at the Red Letter Media OT:
Plinkett review of Star Trek Picard?
Yes please!
Yes, indeed.
Remember his Holographic Ready Room? They used for an episode...(because they didnt want to waste a set) What a ship.... A giant light in the back of a warehouse, but they have incredible Holodeck rooms?
Whats my finger smell like? Hubris.
GreyHorace
Member
On another note, RLM actually tweeted this reply to the Star Trek CBS twiiter account on April 2.
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
I've been waiting & checking impatiently for the Re:View of those final episodes every day, but to find out that we're getting a Plinkett treatment makes it all worthwhile.
DiscoJer
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Kenpachii
Member
Watched the remaining episodes.
Old cast is great, seven of nine is great with borg, everything else is trash.
Star trek picard has the following moto before they even started filming and its obvious clear
Race first
gender second
power position based on race and gender thirth.
white males in weak positions or are weak or are shit on 24/7 fourth.
Females bad ass, kicking everybody ass specially men because fuck logic fifth.
Making of the series and everything involved after it.
Fuck i though discovery was bad but this series at the start was simple not watchable.
It seems that the cast they wanna stick with is fine now. And hope they soft reboot the series next season to something more interesting. Because fuck this first season was bad.
Old cast is great, seven of nine is great with borg, everything else is trash.
Star trek picard has the following moto before they even started filming and its obvious clear
Race first
gender second
power position based on race and gender thirth.
white males in weak positions or are weak or are shit on 24/7 fourth.
Females bad ass, kicking everybody ass specially men because fuck logic fifth.
Making of the series and everything involved after it.
Fuck i though discovery was bad but this series at the start was simple not watchable.
It seems that the cast they wanna stick with is fine now. And hope they soft reboot the series next season to something more interesting. Because fuck this first season was bad.
Shizumapower
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F this trek:
JareBear: Remastered
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Mr. Plinkett reviews Picard
Ememee
Member
I already got my first laugh from them showing Shatner riding around on a bike.
full disclosure: only Star Trek I’ve seen in my life was the first movie, Wrath of Khan, Abrams stuff, and bits of TNG flicks but the re:views of Picard have had me the most excited about Star Trek ever in my life. Been waiting for this bad boy.
full disclosure: only Star Trek I’ve seen in my life was the first movie, Wrath of Khan, Abrams stuff, and bits of TNG flicks but the re:views of Picard have had me the most excited about Star Trek ever in my life. Been waiting for this bad boy.
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
I'm glad he finally managed to mock that absolute fraud Chabon in this, instead of just talking about Kurzman.
A pretty solid Plinkett review. I've missed his voice.
nikolino840
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GreyHorace
Member
Seriously? After the shitshow that was season 1? We're going to get more of this crap?
Well... it'd be cool if RLM do a piss take review of it. But I don't think Rich Evans has the fortitude (nor the desire) to torture himself once more.
The_Mighty_X
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I want the sludge monster to cough up the remains of Tasha Yar that the Borg reanimate into a new Queen.
Borg-hunter Janeway then makes a surprise appearance to "blow that bitch into the stars" while Picard goes fishing with Worf.
I've got Kurtzman beat!
Borg-hunter Janeway then makes a surprise appearance to "blow that bitch into the stars" while Picard goes fishing with Worf.
I've got Kurtzman beat!
nikolino840
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ResurrectedContrarian
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Don't worry about Picard's health, he's already dead and replaced by a android facsimile which just happens to be a tired and confused as the real thing was.
Sosokrates
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Ok I just watched the first episode of season 2 and im confused, how come Picard is still alive? i thought he was transferred into a synthetic body?
Edit: ok i just quickly rewatched the end of season1, so the synthetic picard is as old and frail as the human body lol. God these writers are something else.
Edit: ok i just quickly rewatched the end of season1, so the synthetic picard is as old and frail as the human body lol. God these writers are something else.
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Kenpachii
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Yea its like wtf lol.
Sosokrates
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Season 2 has an interesting story direction, but i miss the acting, music, writing and general direction of TNG.
I will watch picard because Q is back, but it feels like a C/B series where TNG was a an A*
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
How did you not read my comment just above your post, lol
Of course, having Q arrive just after that godawful android restoration plotline is so out of place. What should have happened, if Picard was dying last season, was Q showing up, who wouldn't miss that moment for the world. It's Q who should have somehow given him one more shot at life, rather than having his "consciousness" copied into a frail android facsimile of himself built by a long lost Soong brother.
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Sosokrates
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ManaByte
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S2 started today.
First episode is much more of a Star Trek show than all of S1 was.
I like the new Stargazer but don't get why they gave it a new registry number instead of using the original and adding an -A after it.
Guinan is barely in it.
They do explain why Q is old:
First episode is much more of a Star Trek show than all of S1 was.
I like the new Stargazer but don't get why they gave it a new registry number instead of using the original and adding an -A after it.
Guinan is barely in it.
They do explain why Q is old:
He first shows up de-aged looking like he did in TNG, but when he sees how old Picard is he changes his age to match him.
Trogdor1123
Gold Member
Watch episode 1 of season 2 and was thoroughly impressed. I’m going to pretend the first season never happened cause it was awful. This has promise
Cleared_Hot
Member
This and discovery are absolutely dogshit. They could have made a separate shitty scifi and fine. But to call it star trek is absurd.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I haven't watched this yet. Mike and Rich are huge Star Trek fans and they didn't care for the first season at all, to put it mildly.