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Why would anyone want to see a film in 3D that was not designed for it? This is just as retarded as colorizing a black and white film. Fuck that shit. This is the kind of lame crap that made early film critics hate technological developments, because filmmakers can't be trusted to actually explore the potentials of those developments and rather just throw them into projects because they're new and available.

My fear with this 3D stuff that James Cameron has been pushing is that it is largely useless and ineffective when it comes to home theater. You know, like if the 3D features are actually used well and creatively, it's not going to work on a smaller screen. That's my fear with Battle Angel Alita; I don't want a great awesome movie that loses something at home.

Then again, I've never tried watching a 3D film on my TV, but I can't imagine it'd be a remotely effective experience.

edit: missed a "not" in there...
 
Isn't there a new technology that allows you to see 3D imges on a 2-dimensional screen--I seem to recall to this being linked to either here or on newstoday.
 
As a guy who enjoys modifying 2D pictures to make a version for the right and left eye to add depth, I must admit I am very interested in this.
 
Article on AICN about the press conference at ShoWest about this:
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=19681

hortly after the big Fox bash, there was an amazing 3-D digital presentation featuring a panel that I still can't believe I was witness to. I'm still shaking from it. GEORGE LUCAS, JAMES CAMERON, ROBERT ZEMECKIS, AND ROBERT RODRIGUEZ all on the same stage and only a few feet away from me (Randal Kleiser of DisneylandÂ’s "Honey I Blew Up the Audience" fame was also on hand).
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As everyone is already well aware, George Lucas has always been about pushing forward when it comes to technology. In addition to creating the beloved Star Wars series, Lucas has always been heavily involved in making sure that his movies are presented in the best possible way. So along with James Cameron and the previously mentioned film making heavy weights, Lucas is on a crusade to bring 3-D to theaters everywhere, and not just in a "Comin' At Ya" novelty sort of way. We're talking quality movies presented in 3-D through digital projection. Now this could be a tricky proposition as the theater industry is perfectly content with the way things are, and there are plenty out there who aren't too fond of the whole 3-D gimmick. Hell, even Roger Ebert has said in the past that he isn't really into the 3-D thing (although he did give a very favorable review to James Cameron's recent Ghosts of the Abyss). If Ebert were able to see what we saw at this presentation, I guarantee his opinion would be greatly altered.

Not only is Lucas interested in the future of this technology, but he's also hoping to tinker with pre-existing films such as Star Wars. And this is where the highlight of ShoWest 2005 came into play. Lucas and Cameron presented a couple of promo reels demonstrating digital 3-D. Included--the first eight minutes of A New Hope transferred into the 3-D format. What can I tell you? No words can describe it. The quality of what we saw was staggering. In many ways, it looked better than the standard 2-D print. In addition, we were treated to numerous 3-D transferred scenes including Attack of the Clones, Lilo and Stitch, and a couple of quick scenes from Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings. It was absolute breathtaking, and I'm still sort of reeling from it.
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Funny, I was thinking a couple weeks ago that it's a shame the use of 3D in movies hasn't been more fully developed. Any technology that can enhance the viewing experience or draw the audience more into the movie isn't a bad thing in my mind.
 
Problem with Hollywood at the moment is it's struggling to find decent plots and stories for 2D movies, the last thing writers need is another excuse to skimp on the characterisation and plot for the sake of spectacle.
 
COCKLES said:
Problem with Hollywood at the moment is it's struggling to find decent plots and stories for 2D movies, the last thing writers need is another excuse to skimp on the characterisation and plot for the sake of spectacle.
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They're gonna skimp on those details anyway, so they might as well make the movie look hot while doing so. Look at how many people are planning to watch Episode 3 due to idiotic reasoning like "I feel obligated", when they hated the first two and feel 3 won't be any better. If nothing else they'll be able to see their obligated pile in hot 3D.
 
I don't see why people are hating this idea, I think it would be kinda cool to see it in 3D.

Look how cool Spy Kids 3D turned out (I actually didn't see the movie, but i'd rent it if I'm guaranteed 3D goggles with it).



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The Internet said:
I don't see why people are hating this idea, I think it would be kinda cool to see it in 3D.
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Plus it's been (sort of) done already (sup IMAX theatres.)

Or is this "backlash" only happening because it's cool to dump on Star Wars and bitch about any changes to the series right now?
 
belgurdo said:
Plus it's been (sort of) done already (sup IMAX theatres.)
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Not that I've seen this fancy new 3D method or whatever, but I feel confident in saying that putting a movie in 3D, and putting it on a domed screen to encompass most of your field of vision, would be very different things.
 
Or is this "backlash" only happening because it's cool to dump on Star Wars and bitch about any changes to the series right now?
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I agree, it's getting tiresome hearing all the complaining about changes and stuff done to the ol' Star Wars flicks.

Like that one scene people were mentioning about when Han Solo shoots that lil' green guy, I forgot what they changed, but it was so small and minor that when I watched that one clip over the net, I didn't even notice anything. But the fact that they nitpicked little stuff like that made me almost cry and pee my pants.



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Worst idea ever. Why cant he just leave it? Special Editions and DVD changes i like, but this just sucks balls.

I'll probably turn in to a salivating fan boy when i see it, but at the moment i think this bites.
 
Smiles and Cries said:
Sucks to be me I'm nearly blind in one eye... fuck you Lucas
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And what about guys that already wear glasses...that's going to be real uncomfortable.

3D films are just gimmicky bullshit.
 
Teh Hamburglar said:
Ummm, don't like it? Don't see it. OMG that was so hard. I almost had a breakdown over this.
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:lol It's amazing isn't it...you don't have to see or buy every Star Wars product ever made.
 
Nobody thinks that he'll screw it up somehow??

Well, to counter that negative sentiment before it arises, let it be known that Lucas was the mastermind behind the greatest 3D adventure of all time.

Behold, CAPTAIN EO:

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Iceman said:
Nobody thinks that he'll screw it up somehow??

Well, to counter that negative sentiment before it arises, let it be known that Lucas was the mastermind behind the greatest 3D adventure of all time.

Behold, CAPTAIN EO:

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:lol I remember watching this at Disneyland(I think).
 
i hope they are doing 3d as in the oiled clear glasses instead of the blue/red shit.

That would be SICK
 
I believe the glasses would be polarized (grey), not the old school blue/red.

The same thing if you go to the Terminator 2 3D attraction at Universal Studios.
 
Biglesworth23 said:
I don't know who DDF is, but NPH doesn't approve either. NPH wouldn't do that..
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"Yeah, dude, you fascinate me. Forget White Castle, let's go get some pussy!"
 
jett said:
:lol I remember watching this at Disneyland(I think).
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:lol: I also watched it at disneyland, but I only remember the part when they kill the alien woman (?) that had gigantic nails
 
ElfoMan said:
:lol: I also watched it at disneyland, but I only remember the part when they kill the alien woman (?) that had gigantic nails
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I just remember the furball thingy and everyone trying to catch it. :P Man I can't believe Coppola was behind this crap.
 
jett said:
Are they that different from the old 3d movies? Give some examples~
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one i saw was a comic book character fight or something. Things were flying in front of you like you'd see in real life. One dude threw a spinning blade on a chain which would sit in front of your face... and i swear to god i damn well sneezed because i was looking at my nose going :o my nossssee!
 
Does this method of 3D still require the viewer to wear special glasses? If so, it will never take off because they are uncomfortable with people who wear eyeglasses. There also isn't a narrative function to 3D imagery that justifies its inclusion in films.

Dan is absolutey correct in pointing out the problem this would pose for home viewing.

3D in films is nothing more than a gimmick.
 
Not really. It was used more extensively in the 50s when the film industry was battling television and suburbanization (also with gimmick devices such as 3D and smell-o-vision), but color technology had always offered narrative functions. Technicolor even had trained employees work with filmmakers to ensure that their color technology was used to its maximum narrative potential.

Smell-o-vision offers more narrative potential than 3D. It probably could be achieved today with proper ventilation (the lack of it in the 50s lead to its demise :lol).
 
I wear glasses and I never had a problem with those 3D movies at Disneyworld,and Im batshit blind without my specs :lol
 
soundwave05 said:
How does color impact the narrative function anymore or less than high quality 3D would?
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In narrative films color is used to establish character and emotion. I'm not sure how 3D could serve such functions.

Belgurdo said:
Me neither. You people are really reaching for excuses. Just don't watch the fuckin' film, 'kay?
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But that IS the reason why 3D hasn't taken off yet. I'm not criticizing star wars at all.

I would like to see the 3D version, actually. If these filmmakers are so enthusiastic about 3D, then I want to see how they use it.
 
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