Funny. I remember Raynor saying near the end of Brood War, after Kerrigan betrayed her "allies", and i quote : "I'm the man who's gonna kill you someday."
Or something like that.
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//: StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm |OT| Like Riding a Bike
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Funny. I remember Raynor saying near the end of Brood War, after Kerrigan betrayed her "allies", and i quote : "I'm the man who's gonna kill you someday."
Or something like that.
It probably already did. That's what I mentioned earlier about how confusing this could be for people used to regular game expansions. SC2 seems to be coded like a MMO, so it's just constantly updated to support all the latest content, and the only thing which defines that you are allowed to play the extra content is the license on your account.
PLAY seems to be clickable, I tried clicking it and it looked like the game was loading (though as I'm logged in via LogMeIn I can't see the game screen, all that happens is the cursor changes and the window goes black). So I guess that means I'm OK then? I guess I'll see when I get home.
I don't know, I thought the moral ambuiguity of the character actions and political backstabbing in SC1/BW made it that much more interesting than the Drunkard looking for Damsel-in-Distress MacGuffin we got in SC2. Maybe the smaller budget and less amount of cutscenes in SC1 veiled the cheesy writing, but I would definitely say that SC1's character and plot were much better thanks to their complexity than SC2's Saturday morning cartoon simplicity.
There's also the issue of changing up the theme and entire tone of the series from SC1->SC2.
:lol
It's somewhere in the Add Friends window IIRC.
AppleSmack
Banned
K I'm going Terran.
Also, I'm excited we got a GAF clan. I'll toss my info for invite when I get home.
I play a lot of these types of games. I can't name another major character in any of them outside of the obvious command and conquer characters. Who are also poorly written
I don't think the cheese is the main issue here, it's the way the cheese is handled, and what it says about the target audience. Machete is a fucking cheesy movie. So is Twilight. But there are clear reasons why they're not enjoyed by the same audience. If the sequel to Machete turned into something like Twilight, it would be panned for it by the people who enjoyed the original, even if technically if we're talking about "cheesiness" in general, both are pretty cheesy shows.
Captain Bannon from World in Conflict.
Felix Lighter
Member
I'm going to be destroyed. Maybe I should wait a little while to do placement matches.
The next few days are going to be the best possible time to do your placements. There will never be more beginners playing SC2.
I think Warhammer 40K Dawn of War II and Chaos Rising especially had likeable archetypes, if not necessarily interesting characters. It was the good kind of over-the-top.
The worst part about that is that they were never a couple. They flirted a bit in Starcraft 1, that's all. Now apparently they're long lost lovers.
Raynor is such a sap.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-20-the-hero-factory-interview
dat self-insertion
dem white-knight fantasies
Felix Lighter
Member
Yeah, you're probably right. I was thinking the stronger players will jump into MP and the weaker players will spend sometime in SP but with the sudden surge in population, that probably won't impact the skill level as much as just having a lot more new players playing.
Flashpoint elaborates their relationship a bit. They had a date and some sexytimes. Admittedly the book was authored after WoL though.
Who said anyone did?
I'm right there with you, bro. I did the same thing for Wings of Liberty and Diablo III as I did for Heart of the Swarm.
CE day 1 free shipping from Amazon. The wait is unbearable, but Blizz makes such nice CE's that the 1/2 day wait over buying digitally is worth it.
I'll be playing in a few hours, I just woke up and I'm still having a cup of coffee, I'm in no hurry.
:lol
Cpt.Underpants
Member
BELIEVE!
I recently replayed WoL before HoTS and while I enjoyed the missions, there is a lot of hand holding and guiding going on. It's near impossible to lose a mission unless you stop paying attention to certain mission ending objectives.
Sounds like WoL.
Sorry, Yoshi, it's just so hard when he's so bad at writing and is somehow the vice-president of one of the biggest game developers *and* has the luxury of writing for the only AAA PC RTS game left. Much more competent and talented people could do a much better job if given the same chance.
That quote basically tells me that he uses the same idea and premise in Blizzard's 3 major IPs.
Here's an example of a problem I have with the mission design so far in HotS. I will be using the final Kaldin mission (the third one I think) as an example here, so if you haven't played it, don't highlight the spoilers. This is the mission set on the Protoss ship.
On paper, this should be an extremely fun and unique mission since you are controlling a unit which can infest other units and in the beginning your objectives are presented as "evade the Protoss" and "gain biomass". Near the start of the mission, there appears to be a sort of "tutorial" about what you can do as a tiny brood unit. You can hide by infesting a lifeform sample, and you can hide in air vents.
But... after this, instead of letting the player go through a number of similar challenges on their own armed with this information, the mechanic is dropped completely. Instead you evolve into a Brood Mother, and then the rest of the game is basically moving around with an invincible brood of units you can respawn endlessly. It feels really disappointing because the only unique thing about the mission was in the heavily scripted tutorial-stuff at the start, and beyond that it turns into a click-to-win scenario.
Why not design the mission around sneaking around as a tiny unit and avoiding more Protoss units until you can get further into the ship and then evolve? Why not present the player with more scenarios where we can figure out solutions ourselves? Any point in the mission where something different needs to be done, the game just tells you exactly what it is and highlights the location for you. Where's the fun in that?
But... after this, instead of letting the player go through a number of similar challenges on their own armed with this information, the mechanic is dropped completely. Instead you evolve into a Brood Mother, and then the rest of the game is basically moving around with an invincible brood of units you can respawn endlessly. It feels really disappointing because the only unique thing about the mission was in the heavily scripted tutorial-stuff at the start, and beyond that it turns into a click-to-win scenario.
Why not design the mission around sneaking around as a tiny unit and avoiding more Protoss units until you can get further into the ship and then evolve? Why not present the player with more scenarios where we can figure out solutions ourselves? Any point in the mission where something different needs to be done, the game just tells you exactly what it is and highlights the location for you. Where's the fun in that?
Company of Heroes 2 still exists.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
I think they realized somewhere into development that the fans were right and Raynor did a complete 180 degree turn somewhere
Dawn of War II Retribution had great writing in my opinion. Imperial Guard one especially
WoL was absolute shit writing. And the audacity to use the name "General 'Horace' Warfield", F me up three ways from Sunday, does this guy have no shame.
Regardless, the game play was a ton of fun and right now playing more WoL just to get better and a few more achievements. Single player story is really poor. And yet I play Blizzard games for the story. I feel dumb.
WoL was absolute shit writing. And the audacity to use the name "General 'Horace' Warfield", F me up three ways from Sunday, does this guy have no shame.
Regardless, the game play was a ton of fun and right now playing more WoL just to get better and a few more achievements. Single player story is really poor. And yet I play Blizzard games for the story. I feel dumb.
AppleSmack
Banned
Dawn of War II Retribution had great writing in my opinion. Imperial Guard one especially
WoL was absolute shit writing. And the audacity to use the name "General 'Horace' Warfield", F me up three ways from Sunday, does this guy have no shame.
Regardless, the game play was a ton of fun and right now playing more WoL just to get better and a few more achievements. Single player story is really poor. And yet I play Blizzard games for the story. I feel dumb.
Warcraft 3 was the last good story a blizzard game had (it is my favorite game story ever). Though some WoW plot lines were alright as well.
Sounds like WoL.
I wish that was a good thing.
Really enjoying it thus far, just finished my first planet (the ice one) and the missions are varied enough to make it interesting. I actually like the viewpoint of Kerrigan and the Zerg mission designs a whole lot more than WOL, She's out for vengeance and we are all there to experience it. Kerrigan reminds me of Daenerys Targaryan, she is taking back what is hers with fire and blood !
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