Nemesis Prime
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Looks amazing wtf
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Starfield - Official Gameplay Trailer Reveal (2023)
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Negotiator101
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It's one of those genre defining games that come along once every 10 years. Can't imagine how much time I'm gonna put into this while having a family and full time job 
Mephisto40
Member
Should be translated to "Do you see that planet? You can select a pre designated spot to land on it""Do you see that Planet? You can fly there
Fake
Member
Guilty_AI
Member
We don't know that yet though
Codiox
Member
Oh you innocent child...
My only issue, aside from being made by Bethesda, is that I don't like the pale color scheme. I am really not sure how things got like this for everything? I just watched some Pantheon stuff and it was also very pale. Over this weekend I watched the new Batman and The Northman, and both films had tons of shitty effects (especially The Batman). What is wrong with normal these days. Just like if I go to the store I can buy literally 6-7 kinds of hot Doritos but 3ish non hot ones.
Hmm, guess I should leave it at this, still lots of cool elements and I think this will be my first Bethesda game in over a decade.
Hmm, guess I should leave it at this, still lots of cool elements and I think this will be my first Bethesda game in over a decade.
anthony2690
Member
Man, I had no interest in this game intially.
And didn't understand the hype when we saw nothing at all prior.
But sign me the hell up, this looks incredible and very ambitious.
And didn't understand the hype when we saw nothing at all prior.
But sign me the hell up, this looks incredible and very ambitious.
Kev Kev
Member
Tell me more
Kuranghi
Member
What a let down... I wish I had some heroin I could intramuscularly inject to forget about how excited I was for this showcase...
The environments look amazing, everything else was average or pish. The faces are mildly better than Fallout 4, the gunplay was crap... I'm so disappointed I can't even be bothered to explain the reasons. I'm off for a few days to do something else.
*blows raspberry*
The environments look amazing, everything else was average or pish. The faces are mildly better than Fallout 4, the gunplay was crap... I'm so disappointed I can't even be bothered to explain the reasons. I'm off for a few days to do something else.
*blows raspberry*
RoadHazard
Gold Member
They are not handcrafting 1000 planets. Unless you can only explore a tiny part of each one, but even then it would be a monumental task. And I think the expectation is that you can explore the entire planets. So yeah, they will be generated (which doesn't mean "random" btw - everyone will see the same stuff in the same location on any given planet).
Ovech-King
Member
16 times filler planets . Seriously , hope I'm wrong , but...
LaughingStock
Member
As I always say Bethesda makes fun sandboxes but mediocre RPGs with great potential.
Mods will improve it overtime for sure. I'm not impressed, but I am excited.
Mods will improve it overtime for sure. I'm not impressed, but I am excited.
chilichote
Member
I'm sure of that, but somehow it's not the same as making something like this yourself!^^
TheGodfather07
Member
it kind of made me look more forward to avowed. bethesda are hell bent on moving towards more action than RPG. i know obsidian will deliver more on that front. more choices and more consequences.
saying that, i'll still sink 100s of hours into this just like i did with oblivion, skyrim, fallout 3 and 4.
saying that, i'll still sink 100s of hours into this just like i did with oblivion, skyrim, fallout 3 and 4.
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Wandering Leopard
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It's pretty much what I expected and I'm interested.
I'm curious about all the explorable worlds, it's impossible for them to implement well designed levels/areas for everything.
No doubt there will be more details revealed but there will need to be really compelling reasons for a player to want to explore all the different worlds.
I'm curious about all the explorable worlds, it's impossible for them to implement well designed levels/areas for everything.
No doubt there will be more details revealed but there will need to be really compelling reasons for a player to want to explore all the different worlds.
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lastmessiah
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But we have no idea how many of them are “handcrafted” either. Even if it was only 10 it would be impressive, and the addition of procedurally generated planets wouldn’t detract from that.
Snake29
Banned
I don't think that's true, since you can land everywhere on the planets or moons (just like Star Citizen), so it wouldn't make any sense to have that part scripted.
All planets and moons in Star Citizen are procedural generated, but have a lot of handcrafted assets.
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SenjutsuSage
Banned
Check out all them character backgrounds with different starting skills. And I love that there are so many more on the side.
About in line with what I expected which is Fallout in space. Seems to retain the same strengths and weaknesses from their previous games while trying a few new things. That is to say that graphics and combat look just okay while exploration and questing look to be strong. Like all the Bethesda games before this game will live or die by story/dialogue/quests/choices.
I expect the base and ship building to be a nice distraction for a few hours like Fallout 4 settlements were for me. Exploring planets and flying sounds nice but the high number of planets is actually a negative in my book. Never cared for empty spaces and resource farming. I would have preferred a few well crafted systems instead, maybe even one. With that being said, I'll land on a few planets to see what it's about.
Excited to play but this is just a natural evolution of what they've done before. It didn't blow me away or anything.
I expect the base and ship building to be a nice distraction for a few hours like Fallout 4 settlements were for me. Exploring planets and flying sounds nice but the high number of planets is actually a negative in my book. Never cared for empty spaces and resource farming. I would have preferred a few well crafted systems instead, maybe even one. With that being said, I'll land on a few planets to see what it's about.
Excited to play but this is just a natural evolution of what they've done before. It didn't blow me away or anything.
winjer
Gold Member
You are really angry that I don't like this game?
If you like it that much, you can ignore those who don't.
This is just a forum, and people constantly disagree.
AltogetherAndrews
Banned
I don't get it. It looks like shit, what am I missing? Games are allowed to look like shit now?
nani17
are in a big trouble
I hear you Captain
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
I see your knowledge of procedural generation techniques is weak?
You think people hand place everything in games these days?
Houdini and one man is enough to populate a shit ton content.
Guilty_AI
Member
good taste
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
I generally dislike disengious criticisms, and just like to point them out to the people making them so they can hopefully see their own asses.
Elysion
Banned
Yeah, that would be a huge bummer. That menu screen they showed with the planet in the background really made it look like there’s gonna be a landing cutscene everytime we land on a planet. Which is kinda weird, considering Todd also said we could land ‘anywhere’ on a planet. Do we move the cursor across the planet’s surface in the menu and then press ‘A’ on a random spot to land? And once we’ve landed, can we then fly around the whole surface of the planet? Because if so, you’d think flying seamlessly into space shouldn’t be much of a problem. It’s all a bit weird, and the way they presented the whole thing, without really showing any kind of traversal at all, makes me wonder if we might not be able to explore as freely as we might hope.
Also, the whole ‘1000 planets’ thing makes more nervous than excited, because this pretty much confirms that 99.9% of the environments will be procedurally generated. I would’ve much preferred just a handful of star systems with 40 or 50 planets or so, but with each planet having lots of curated and handcrafted environments (and with seamless ground-to-space travel).
And the performance was terrible. I can see why they decided to delay this to next year; this would’ve probably been another Cyberpunk if it had launched this year. Other than that the graphics are ok, though it doesn’t look like something that would’ve been impossible on last gen hardware. Still, it’s a Bethesda rpg in space, which means the core gameplay loop is gonna be lots of fun, and I doubt we’re gonna get something like this from any other developer in the near future (unless Star Citizen comes out lol), so I’m still very much looking forward to this.
Vlodril
Member
It looks like crap. Gameplay seems weak as hell. Crappy gun sounds and that shooting was laughable. It might still be good and just have bad gameplay which to be fair is most bethesda's games. They really need to switch engines but i guess they are afraid that no one is going to fix their games if they do that.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
This is close to my dream game.
Absolutely shits all over Elite: Dangerous and Scam Citizen (in terms of depth and narrative for the former, and because it's an actual game for the latter).
Absolutely shits all over Elite: Dangerous and Scam Citizen (in terms of depth and narrative for the former, and because it's an actual game for the latter).
Guilty_AI
Member
Depends what you're calling meaningful content. Not to mention its still entirely possible to fill a few selected planets, or regions of planets, with fully handcrafted skyrim levels of content.
Tiamat2san
Member
Watched the gameplay in 4K.
It looks very cool, different atmosphere than mass effect, more « realistic »
I am glad the firefights are more punchy than fallout.
Can’t wait to play next year.
It looks very cool, different atmosphere than mass effect, more « realistic »
I am glad the firefights are more punchy than fallout.
Can’t wait to play next year.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
Exactly. Only the landing to the main points of interest are scripted for cinematic or style reasons. Otherwise it appears we can do something ourselves.
Hezekiah
Banned
It's clear it was never going to be properly ready for this year.
Although they've wall-gated a multiplatform game, MS owning them means Bethesda can't get away with putting out a half-finished game.
Balducci30
Member
Honestly, once the mods get to this game. I can’t imagine how awesome it’ll be - I bet some people would put an elder scrolls planet in there - also surprised people think this looks bad graphically?
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Arachnid
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Lol
You think they hand crafted 1000 planets with their own unique flora/fauna and quests/sidequests? This game is definitely promising too much.
rickybooby87
Member
It looks promising. But, there is some performance issues for sure, smoke/effects/animations need work, somethings looked like they were running at maybe 15fps? (Effects). Noticeable pop-in, and it seemed like they had a very, very short distance for LOD for ground objects/details. Some of it looked to be within 20' or less of your character.
The vegetation is sorely lacking/complexity in their arrangement on "green" worlds. 1000 planets using procedural generation for sure with additional artist passes for polishing, personality, etc needed.
It's fallout in space, so big open world RPGs aren't really about CGI-like backdrops, so nothing ground breaking there.
But, it did look interesting for sure. Especially ship building and base building, it's like no mans sky, but with an actual story and RPG mechanics.
My prediction, is a further slip to the later half of 2023, 11-12-23 is the date I am going with. There was a rumor that was circulating around about various issues with the engine, flight mechanics, etc, and, there is noticeable performance issues. The last thing anyone wants is a half baked game to get out the door (another fallout 76 - Yes, I know lord Todd didn't make it, but Zenimax/Bethesda regardless).
It's going to take a while to optimize, make cuts/improvements which affects assets and artist intentions/vision, etc.
I will play on PC for sure.
The vegetation is sorely lacking/complexity in their arrangement on "green" worlds. 1000 planets using procedural generation for sure with additional artist passes for polishing, personality, etc needed.
It's fallout in space, so big open world RPGs aren't really about CGI-like backdrops, so nothing ground breaking there.
But, it did look interesting for sure. Especially ship building and base building, it's like no mans sky, but with an actual story and RPG mechanics.
My prediction, is a further slip to the later half of 2023, 11-12-23 is the date I am going with. There was a rumor that was circulating around about various issues with the engine, flight mechanics, etc, and, there is noticeable performance issues. The last thing anyone wants is a half baked game to get out the door (another fallout 76 - Yes, I know lord Todd didn't make it, but Zenimax/Bethesda regardless).
It's going to take a while to optimize, make cuts/improvements which affects assets and artist intentions/vision, etc.
I will play on PC for sure.
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GnomeChimpsky
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Skyrim in space. Screw the haters, it looks great.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
It's not gonna be 10 fully handcrafted planets either, unless they are absolutely tiny or you can only explore a small part of each one. It's just not realistic for any development team, even with a thousand people. My bet is that they will ALL be procedurally generated, but the most important ones will have more handcrafted stuff placed in those generated environments.
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Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Ozrimandias
Member
The conference didn't surprise me at all, except for Diablo 4 and Starfield, which to be honest didn't really surprise me either. I still really want to play it and maybe I'll buy a Series S just for this game and some classics. What bothers me is that Fallout today seems like a mix of Fortine and another generic game, when the style and art of the game should have been like Starfield.
Point aside, uf those frame drops.
Point aside, uf those frame drops.
Gudji
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Tokio Blues
Gold Member
Need way way way more polish.
Its cyberpunk all over again.
Its cyberpunk all over again.
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