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STEAM Announcements & Updates 2014 II - The Definitive Edition
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Rickenslacker
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Arkham Asylum was alright, but the exploration wasn't all that interesting on its own and the combat was never much more than boring. I'm still interested in City because of hearing how it makes Asylum feel so watered down by comparison, but I just got that feel from Asylum without touching City.
Atraveller
Banned
This looks very useful. thank you.Use "Depressurizer" tool to auto-categorize your steam library.
It's been a while (I replayed AA when it got GFWL removed, played AC around release), but while they made the combat feel smoother, crossing the city got really annoying because you always had to go around that stupid wall... and you kept getting sent to the other side, of course. Also, it felt like a lot more mooks were carrying guns... and don't get me started on all the timing based Riddler sidestuff.
SteveWinwood
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I should try depressurizer again. It didn't work at all the first time I tried (probably user error) and I never bothered again.
I want to make my categories better as finally after all my games my tried and true backlog, finished, playing, isn't cutting it anymore.
I want to make my categories better as finally after all my games my tried and true backlog, finished, playing, isn't cutting it anymore.
I played them same as you-- AC around release (with a six month break when GFWL refused to recognize my save file), AA replay when GFWL got removed-- and I agree with you completely, especially about AC's Riddler stuff.
Leon Belmont
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nvm I found it!
Last day for the Flying Bundle
The bosses are indeed one of the weaker parts of the game or lazily designed.
Bane
titan giants
killer croc section
Altough i must disagree with the combat .
The free combat system is well designed to make you feel like the badass that Batman is and gives you a challenge to get your combo meter up as high as you can without getting hit .
Also you should forget trying to finish enemies on the floor durring fights because as you said, you get rushed by the other enemies .
Instead let them get back up so you can hit them again and keep your combo going.
The enemy variety also mixes things up so you are not constantly mashing Square/X your way to Victory.
Regarding AC the combat remains relatively the same sans minor improvements (counter two enemies at once ,smoke pellets to get away for when you get shot at etc.. ) but i can already say that the bosses in that game are a massive improvement compared to AA.
The Freeze fight was amazing.
But fighting a hundred dudes at once, several times over, does get old. At least, until Batman: Arkham Musou comes out.
I still like the comat in Arkham games, viewing it as a rhythm system where I want to make the longest combo or use the most items possible.
I would of course prefer Batman in Godhand, but oh well
Oh thanks, I somehow missed this and I need those robots.
I would of course prefer Batman in Godhand, but oh well
Oh thanks, I somehow missed this and I need those robots.
graywolf323
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Use "Depressurizer" tool to auto-categorize your steam library.
this makes me so happy
Nah, it's big. My first (and only, for now) playthrough took me 39 hours. Amazing game, totally blew my head. As someone who played it in 2013, I can't imagine how the players must have felt back in 2000 when it came out. I wish I had tried it back then :/Wow this game is huge. Or maybe I'm just really slow
I prefer Asylum, but it's tough to compare them. I loved the tone of Asylum, It had a really feeling of urgency what with
. The chaos in city just felt like it was par for the course. City played better, but navigation did become a chore at times, but even with Asylums boss battles it was still immensely fun to play. Both are great games though, I really need to get around to Origins.
The inmates taking over the asylum, even if the stakes were arguably higher in city
corrosivefrost
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Depressurizer is a great tool. I just wouldn't trust the "auto categorize based on steam" setting.
Someone understands the brilliance of the Arkham games freeflow combat system. Hooray! I like you.
I don't know, I rather like Sokaban games.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=99777437
Blue Ninja
Member
Looks like I'll still give Arkham City a try then, thanks guys. As long as I don't break my controller during this last Joker fight. Discovering the fight with Poison Ivy had two stages nearly gave me a brain aneurysm.
Atraveller
Banned
I prefer AC over AA, because the combat is just so much better, flying around the city makes me feel like Batman, also Catwoman. I got AO from my graphics card, will try it out soon.
Someone understands the brilliance of the Arkham games freeflow combat system. Hooray! I like you.
Oh, I think the freeflow combat system is brilliant, it's just very punishing for those of us born with the coordination of a newborn puppy with a concussion.
Yeah right, you've only played .2 hours of English Country Tune you liar!
Alright, about to start this stream and see if anyone is actually playing this game
http://www.twitch.tv/japanesedorito
http://www.twitch.tv/japanesedorito
Looks like Bomberman for some reason, I'm surprised there isnt a steam version on PC, at least there is still http://bombermine.com
Blue Ninja
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That's harsh, man, I don't have a concussion.
I played Deus Ex back when it came out, and it set unrealistic expectations for the future of gaming.
The multiplayer (patched in after launch, seemed like a good idea at the time) was pretty fun, though.
Makes me wonder why, with all the reboots going on, they added multiplayer to Tomb Raider but not to DXHR. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they didn't, but if you had to choose between grinding 20+ achievements from deathmatch would you rather play as an ordinary human with a gun against other ordinary humans with guns, or as a customized cyborg with customized weapons against other cyborgs?
Looking back on Arkham City, I feel like I spent half my time gliding between objectives.
I played more! Steam just erased my hours I swear!
Yeah. Being a PC only gamer in the 90s has not been good for my expectations in how the market would evolve.
Ultima Underworld 1+2, Ultima 7, System Shock 1+2, Deus Ex, adventure games, stuff like wing commander/privateer...
(Are we noticing a trend here?)
At times i have wondered if a fast travel option should have been included in the game but i always thought the game world was or at least felt , just too small to make a such an option worthwhile .
I can see how people would compare the arkham games with assassins creed, although I would say the arkham games have much more depth in the actual mechanics than AC. In AC (sorry if this is off, the last AC game I played was brotherhood), counters are instant kills in 90% of the situations. Except for heavily armored enemies, NOTHING can touch you unless you just suck at video games.
In arkham, there is no OHKO except for stealth takedowns (which open you up for attack if an enemy sees you). Along with the extended fights because of no OHKO, you are given far more tools to play with in each combat scenario. In AC, the weapons you get all essentially work the same except for ranged weapons. In arkham, each weapon can be used differently (For example, explosive gel can be used for three different purposes in origins: quick planting during combat, opening pathways, and eliminating enemies instantly. That is just ONE tool in your arsenal).
You also have more diverse enemy types that you fight in the arkham series that make you change up your tactics. Stun baton wielding enemies that have to be vaulted to attack properly, heavies that take more damage, knife wielding enemies that take more skill to counter and do more damage, etc. There are also the unique enemies for certain boss fights, although they mostly are just reskinned basic types.
Not only that, you have way more combat mechanics you can play around with: cape stun, ground takedowns, instant takedowns (basically the AC counter), throws, batclaw, explosive gel of course, evades, batarang that can be comboed across multiple enemies, etc etc.
Overall I think it's a much better combat system than AC, and a lot better than people give it credit for. It's no platinum character action game or DMC, but it's no slouch either.
In arkham, there is no OHKO except for stealth takedowns (which open you up for attack if an enemy sees you). Along with the extended fights because of no OHKO, you are given far more tools to play with in each combat scenario. In AC, the weapons you get all essentially work the same except for ranged weapons. In arkham, each weapon can be used differently (For example, explosive gel can be used for three different purposes in origins: quick planting during combat, opening pathways, and eliminating enemies instantly. That is just ONE tool in your arsenal).
You also have more diverse enemy types that you fight in the arkham series that make you change up your tactics. Stun baton wielding enemies that have to be vaulted to attack properly, heavies that take more damage, knife wielding enemies that take more skill to counter and do more damage, etc. There are also the unique enemies for certain boss fights, although they mostly are just reskinned basic types.
Not only that, you have way more combat mechanics you can play around with: cape stun, ground takedowns, instant takedowns (basically the AC counter), throws, batclaw, explosive gel of course, evades, batarang that can be comboed across multiple enemies, etc etc.
Overall I think it's a much better combat system than AC, and a lot better than people give it credit for. It's no platinum character action game or DMC, but it's no slouch either.
MMBosstones86
Member
and that's why you don't buy a TT game at launch.
Yup, I never know when to strike to make the combo counter go up. Right before hitting the enemy? After the hit connects? At the exact moment when it happens? The game doesn't tell you that, or I missed it.
Maklershed
Member
Ha cool - checking out gameplay on youtube and just saw you can collect cassette tapes.
I liked Asylum a little bit more than City. The story was much better in Asylum and so were the boss fights.
The killer croc evasion in the sewers was intense as hell. One of my favorite moments in that game
corrosivefrost
Member
The combo counter goes up regardless, as long as you don't get hit, for each "hit" on an enemy.
The part where you can get "bonus" hits for timing it right is hard to explain, but there's almost a rhythm to it... I can't explain that part fully... I just naturally knew what it meant and the timing felt right so I get perfect strikes most of the time. I think, in general, you need to start the next attack immediately as the one you're doing finishes, but I'd have to go look at the ability description to try to interpret it properly.
One of the keys to doing well in the system is to learn about dodging properly and incorporating gadgets where it makes sense. You need to learn how to dodge anyway because there are the unblockable attacks and shielded enemies later in the games that require it... so learning it early helps... and it helps you keep the combo going. You can sit there and use the dodge to flip back and forth over an enemy infinitely pretty much if you want to (it doesn't build combo count though).
stonedwal
Member
I had exactly the same problem. Gaming went the opposite way and I'd been losing interest - at least until the indie revolution of the past few years.
Yeah the cassette tapes are your upgrades and on the skill selection screen they have cheesy songs for them too, it's awesome
I also love how they have their own 80s styled songs for the levels, sooooo damn good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YySGy_4Wag
ussjtrunks
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Well, I also played console games in the 90s/2000s, so, yeah, double-dose of disappointment.
It did sort of have fast travel with the batwing or something, didn't it? Just from node to node?
I don't know, when I heard "open world/city" and "Batman" I really hoped it would be more of a Gotham-by-night thing instead of a "larger Asylum" thing.
Well, with TWD, there was the spoiler thread where we discussed the choices we made, lamented over the things that happened, etc. It was like a community thread. Then again, the episodes had a release schedule.
I'm still not sure of that.
derExperte
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Anyone else not able to buy the Lego Movie game yet I can see and buy the dlc but not the game
yep
MMBosstones86
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Freeze fight might be one of the better boss fights of last generation. Such a welcome change of pace from "here...kill a bunch of dudes, and then we'll throw more dudes at you".
Freeze fight might be one of the better boss fights of last generation. Such a welcome change of pace from "here...kill a bunch of dudes, and then we'll throw more dudes at you".
Such a welcome change, too, from "the enemy's weak point opens up over here, just wait for it then hit it to make them flash red, now repeat three times."
XCOM completed. I was starting to roll over all of the usual missions but then the game threw the last two rooms of the temple ship at me. Initially won losing my favorite soldier but then reloaded to win with the team intact, haha.
Fun game, I might burp out a steam review with extended impressions.
Fun game, I might burp out a steam review with extended impressions.
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