Er, I'm no expert, but that sounds like something you would need to hack the Steam servers to accomplish. I mean, you can craft and send a message to Steam saying "unlock this achievement" I assume, I don't know that there is any such way of telling the servers to undo an unlock.
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STEAM Announcements & Updates 2014 IV - For me it was Tuesday
- Thread starter MRORANGE
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derExperte
Member
They're only as boring as you want them to be. I had fun all the way through, often changing my playstyle.
SAM can do it, no problem.
C00kie M0nster
Member
corrosivefrost
Member
A little premature, but here we are again. ^_^
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So what's the deal with the Explodemon keys?
I own the April Fool's bundle... but I don't see any key appearing there -- and I have it on desura, apparently, but I don't see any option for getting a steam key.
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So what's the deal with the Explodemon keys?
I own the April Fool's bundle... but I don't see any key appearing there -- and I have it on desura, apparently, but I don't see any option for getting a steam key.
ashecitism
Member
Same here.
SAM lets you relock achievements.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Given that we're now at about 30 days per thread and shrinking, it might be useful to start looking at a monthly thread instead of ad-hoc new threads.
The benefit of putting the thread on a monthly schedule is that it helps reduce the extent to which clutter plays a role in the first 10-20 or so and last 10-20 or so pages; when the discussion is just anticipation of the next thread, or steam-venting that the new thread has arrived, it's the kind of thing that's more appropriate for a chat room than the thread. It also confuses people who are not regulars to the thread or who are new to the subject and want to feel like they can jump it at any time or can ask the questions they have. I don't blame people for doing it, it's just a kind of social hysteria.
In addition, this would also move closer to the way that all other platforms operate; iOS uses a monthly thread; Nintendo platforms use a monthly thread; Sony platforms use a weekly thread to emphasize new releases in the OP; Xbox is moving towards a monthly thread. So this would bring Steam in line a little bit.
This would require working out a few things, namely:
- What to do when 20k posts is hit a few days before the end of the month. As I'm sure everyone knows, 20k posts is not a magic number where vBulletin goes haywire, but rather a general guideline we use to achieve the objectives we have and increase readability. My personal standpoint is that hitting 20k posts on the 27th and ending up at 23k posts is not a terrible thing, but I'd check with other moderators first. Obviously if 20k posts were hit in 10 days, then I'd suggest a weekly thread here instead of monthly.
- What to do for sales and events, which themselves rack up multiple threads. The value of having an updated OP in sales threads is very high so I don't think we'd want to change that, and I also believe that Steam sales are so all-encompassing that the idea of still running a non-sale Steam thread during that period of time is totally redundant.
- Whether the kind of things put in the OP might vary by moving to a monthly thread versus just moving at the 20k mark. Maybe we'd look at incorporating monthly content about major releases or likely upcoming releases? Maybe the FAQ would drop some older questions and gain newer questions. The person responsible for the OP--and I really see no reason why MRORANGE couldn't continue because he does a great job--would also have to decide whether they'd do individual graphics for each thread, and if that was too much of a burden for them.
If there's any EXTREME opposition to monthly threads I'd love to hear it, but given that the last thread was 30 days give or take, it feels to me like now is pretty much the exact time we'd want to talk about transitioning.
Again, this is just me spitballing, it's not an external mandate, I don't expect a new thread to be created April 1st, it's and I haven't even talked to other moderators about it. But if other mods agree and the kind of people most involved in making threads here agree, I think it's something we'd do in the months to come. I just wanted to mention it in hopes that people could swish it around a bit. I think you guys know I'm also a member of this community and I don't typically approach moderation in a come-in-and-lay-down-the-law kind of way so I hope this communicates my desire to bring a little increased order to the process without forcing anything on people.
The benefit of putting the thread on a monthly schedule is that it helps reduce the extent to which clutter plays a role in the first 10-20 or so and last 10-20 or so pages; when the discussion is just anticipation of the next thread, or steam-venting that the new thread has arrived, it's the kind of thing that's more appropriate for a chat room than the thread. It also confuses people who are not regulars to the thread or who are new to the subject and want to feel like they can jump it at any time or can ask the questions they have. I don't blame people for doing it, it's just a kind of social hysteria.
In addition, this would also move closer to the way that all other platforms operate; iOS uses a monthly thread; Nintendo platforms use a monthly thread; Sony platforms use a weekly thread to emphasize new releases in the OP; Xbox is moving towards a monthly thread. So this would bring Steam in line a little bit.
This would require working out a few things, namely:
- What to do when 20k posts is hit a few days before the end of the month. As I'm sure everyone knows, 20k posts is not a magic number where vBulletin goes haywire, but rather a general guideline we use to achieve the objectives we have and increase readability. My personal standpoint is that hitting 20k posts on the 27th and ending up at 23k posts is not a terrible thing, but I'd check with other moderators first. Obviously if 20k posts were hit in 10 days, then I'd suggest a weekly thread here instead of monthly.
- What to do for sales and events, which themselves rack up multiple threads. The value of having an updated OP in sales threads is very high so I don't think we'd want to change that, and I also believe that Steam sales are so all-encompassing that the idea of still running a non-sale Steam thread during that period of time is totally redundant.
- Whether the kind of things put in the OP might vary by moving to a monthly thread versus just moving at the 20k mark. Maybe we'd look at incorporating monthly content about major releases or likely upcoming releases? Maybe the FAQ would drop some older questions and gain newer questions. The person responsible for the OP--and I really see no reason why MRORANGE couldn't continue because he does a great job--would also have to decide whether they'd do individual graphics for each thread, and if that was too much of a burden for them.
If there's any EXTREME opposition to monthly threads I'd love to hear it, but given that the last thread was 30 days give or take, it feels to me like now is pretty much the exact time we'd want to talk about transitioning.
Again, this is just me spitballing, it's not an external mandate, I don't expect a new thread to be created April 1st, it's and I haven't even talked to other moderators about it. But if other mods agree and the kind of people most involved in making threads here agree, I think it's something we'd do in the months to come. I just wanted to mention it in hopes that people could swish it around a bit. I think you guys know I'm also a member of this community and I don't typically approach moderation in a come-in-and-lay-down-the-law kind of way so I hope this communicates my desire to bring a little increased order to the process without forcing anything on people.
I tried tons of different playstyles with many different weapon and vigors. I was still bored.
Ah ok. Surprised there would be a such a function server-side. Thinking about it some more, I guess it's there for developers to test achievements in their games.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
I just put in a support ticket with Playfire. I think one of their reps checks in on this thread too every so often.
I joined Playfire when they first announced the rewards program. I've played (and earned a lot of achievements) since then, and it never tracks anything. I even have their app installed, running, and logged in.
Playfire insists that I own 0 games on Steam (they're a little off on that number) and that my account history is all from 1970 (Unix epoch). I guess something just got screwed up with my account. It sucks because I would have actually earned close to $20 in rewards since I signed up.
That is how I've been describing my experience with Bioshock Infinite. Great atmosphere in the beginning and a climactic ending, but those two pieces are sandwiched by ~8 hours of pure mediocrity.
I am starting to think that Bioshock Infinite gets GOTY votes based purely on that first impression the game gives. There is no other explanation in my mind why it should even be in the top ten games of last year.
One Way Heroes is phenomenal. If you think you'd enjoy a "lighter" roguelike experience (that is to say, not as brutally punishing as "classic" roguelikes - each playthrough's relatively quick and you can carry over some items from one run to the next), you should definitely pick it up. It wasn't made in RPG Maker, as far as I know - I believe the author coded the engine himself, but don't quote me on that.
Various Artists
Banned
I always thought it would be useful to have the new thread dump any keys that were unclaimed from the last thread onto the first page of the new one. Any reason why tha couldn't be considered?
Shalashaska
Member
He did, you're right.
corrosivefrost
Member
Finished Yaiba.
The only real difficulty spike is kind of where it should have been... but that doesn't make it any easier. I did clear Hard mode.
I have a ton of screens I want to upload, but they all have spoilers and I don't really feel like tagging them as such... so I guess I'll have to wait a bit just to be fair.
I need to go try Arcade mode out.
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Seems my 1300th game will be Mirror of Fate HD. I'm holding off on redeeming the 4 remaining keys of this latest bundle to do that, but hey, whynot, it's out in a day or so.
The only real difficulty spike is kind of where it should have been... but that doesn't make it any easier. I did clear Hard mode.
I have a ton of screens I want to upload, but they all have spoilers and I don't really feel like tagging them as such... so I guess I'll have to wait a bit just to be fair.
I need to go try Arcade mode out.
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Seems my 1300th game will be Mirror of Fate HD. I'm holding off on redeeming the 4 remaining keys of this latest bundle to do that, but hey, whynot, it's out in a day or so.
DaBargainHunta
Member
I'd be totally good with a monthly thread. As you mentioned, that seems to more or less coincide with the average lifespan of a Steam thread these days anyway, and it'd also be nice for searchability. ("That was released back in May, wasn't it? Let's see what people were saying about it on launch day.")
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Preliminary feedback from other mods: "It wasn't already?" "If it hit 20k with a few days left, let them go, but if there were a lot of days left, make a new thread" "If it continues to grow, move to biweekly or weekly". So looks like the people most interested in responding are on the same page as me moderation-wise.
Mostly technical laziness, although I have in the post done mass-raffles of older unclaimed stuff every few months. The vast majority of what got mass-raffled in the past didn't work because people had already regifted their keys externally or whatever. Good point, though.
Mostly technical laziness, although I have in the post done mass-raffles of older unclaimed stuff every few months. The vast majority of what got mass-raffled in the past didn't work because people had already regifted their keys externally or whatever. Good point, though.
thesaucetastic
Unconfirmed Member
new thread, wooooo!
If you like Chunsoft roguelikes (the Mystery Dungeon series) you'll probably like it quite a bit - it's very much like one of those with the addition of forced scrolling to keep you moving forward. It's really neat.
Various Artists
Banned
Cool, Seems like it could be a fun way to kick off the new thread each month.
I like this
Monthly threads sound good.
Also, jesus JaseC, what the hell happened?
Last time I checked, I was about 100 posts behind you... not at around a third =p
(Of course, I've been slacking and doing more actual work lately)
Also, jesus JaseC, what the hell happened?
Last time I checked, I was about 100 posts behind you... not at around a third =p
(Of course, I've been slacking and doing more actual work lately)
Nope. There were some DDoS attacks claimed by different groups, but lately, nothing.
STEAM THREAD Volume 14 issue 4: Sushi-X is dead, long live MRORANGE
Easy to learn, hard to master, will be in the SteamGAF top 10 this year.
The only opposition I would offer is stuff you've already thought about. Some months are slower or faster than others and we might end up with April Part 2 but then only having 100 pages in May.
Monthly threads would work and should be fine with keeping it up to date.
If we do reach the end of the thread before the month we could always create a new thread and keep going, until the month ends.
Not sure about keeping track of all games coming out on Steam, as SteamDB can't track everything beforehand and the list would need daily changes in some cases... I'll give it a shot.
BTW, here is a list of all the Steam announcement threads with how long they lasted:
Thread 1 (2008) : STEAM - announcements, updates and WIN (815 days)
Thread 2 (2010) : STEAM - Announcements & Updates 2010 (138 days)
Thread 3 (2011) : STEAM- Announcements & Updates 2011 Edition (176 days)
Thread 4 (2011) : STEAM- Announcements & Updates 2011 Edition |OT2| (105 days)
Thread 5 (2011) : STEAM announcements & updates 2011 Thread 3 | Buy now, play later. (73 days)
Thread 6 (2012) : STEAM announcements & updates 2012 Thread - Summer sales usually last week of June (160 days)
Thread 7 (2012) : STEAM announcements & updates 2012 Thread 2 - Bad Rats Daily Deal for next 6 months (66 days)
Thread 8 (2012) : STEAM announcements & updates 2012 Thread 3 - (100 days)
Thread 9 (2012) : STEAM announcements & updates 2012 Thread 4 - winter seal is coming (24 days)
Thread 10 (2013) : STEAM announcements & updates 2013 - Year of the SteamBox (89 days)
Thread 11 (2013) : STEAM announcements & updates 2013 II - ITT we buy $1 games and complain about them (74 days)
Thread 12 (2013) : STEAM Announcements/Updates 2013 - Summer sale start date? No one knows, don't ask (24 days)
Thread 13 (2013) : STEAM Announcements & Updates 2013 IV - Christmas in July is over, back to real life (24 days)
Thread 14 (2013) : STEAM Announcements & Updates 2013 V - Message Modbot for Good Time 1-800-555-READOP (34 days)
Thread 15 (2013) : STEAM 2013 Announcements & Updates: 6, GFWL: 0 | Number of hours played bugged (37 days)
Thread 16 (2013) : STEAM 2013 Announcements & Updates VII:Friends with benefits (30 days)
Thread 17 (2013) : STEAM 2013 Announcements & Updates VIII - Don't ask when the sales are starting. (30 days)
Thread 18 (2014) : STEAM Announcements & Updates 2014 - To Next-Gen and Beyond! (22 days)
Thread 19 (2014) : STEAM Announcements & Updates 2014 II - The Definitive Edition (30 days)
Thread 20 (2014) : STEAM Announcements & Updates 2014 III - Don't Believe The Tags (32 days)
Thread 21 (2014) : STEAM Announcements & Updates 2014 IV - For me it was Tuesday (?)
Seems like monthly threads would be perfect in the long run.
Post more than 2 times a day, and you'll get there!
Jesus, almost 3 years for the first thread? We've come far.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Since Crusader Kings II is on sale, and a lot of people have asked, here is a PSA on a great Enhanced Steam feature you can use to scoop up all of the DLC you're missing with just a few clicks.
I know most of you guys know this stuff already, but hopefully someone finds this tip useful.
Why in the world Valve hasn't implemented something similar is beyond me.
If you have Enhanced Steam installed, you can click the button above the DLC section that says "Options ".
Next, you can click "Select unowned DLC".
Now all you have to do is press the "Add selected DLC to cart" at the bottom.
I know most of you guys know this stuff already, but hopefully someone finds this tip useful.
Why in the world Valve hasn't implemented something similar is beyond me.
Darth Kupi
Banned
Any Wrassle-GAF here tell me the context of Vince making those goofy o-faces?
Krusenstern
Banned
#TeamMonthly
Falexandre
Member
For those in the fence about CKII, the base game and a few extra DLC I had laying around. I THINK every code works.
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The next time someone asks me about Infinite I'll just quote this post.
Darth Kupi
Banned
Woooooooooow.
That irritated me to no end. I have enhanced steam and I didn't even know it did that.
crazyrabbits
Banned
Dat new thread smell
Reminds me that I need to set up a giveaway for tomorrow.
Reminds me that I need to set up a giveaway for tomorrow.
More_Badass
Member
Wow, these threads have come a long way since then
And I like the idea of monthly threads as well
crimsonheadGCN
Banned
It's a mixture of two videos. The part with Vince was when Stacy Kiebler danced for him: http://youtu.be/rI1DcUuBy5k and the part with the bodybuilder is from the early 90s when Vince created the World Bodybuilding Federation and offered commentary. He went insane over the guy's body and complimented him a lot.
Those were the dark days for Steam and PC on NeoGAF.
Still waiting for that SaoirseVision Steam skin, myself.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
the consensus from mods is that if the thread got to 20k at the 27th-29th or later, keep going, but if it was more like the 21st-23rd, new thread... and then if we were frequently getting 2 threads in a month, look at moving to biweekly or whatever.
Not so much an exhaustive list, there's way way way too much stuff, but rather if there's a few games that came out it'd be cool to have their art and maybe if there are notable GAF impressions, quotes from GAF members or something. And for upcoming stuff, I guess anything with a fixed date that seems like a big deal. Don't feel like you need to put in significant work or anything, this isn't your job, so only do this if you want to. Just a reflection that it might be nice.
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