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STEAM | April 2017 - Fly me to the Moon

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MUnited83

For you.

Let's be clear here, your point goes basically as follows


People: Trump is a dumb piece of shit


Fantomena : You have no proof of that, that's a theory not a fact. Also he thinks you guys are dumb pieces of shit too, what now?


Checkmate atheists, quality point and discussion, 10/10
 

fantomena

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Let's be clear here, your point goes basically as follows


People: Trump is a dumb piece of shit


Fantomena : You have no proof of that, that's a theory not a fact. Also he thinks you guys are dumb pieces of shit too, what now?


Checkmate atheists, quality point and discussion, 10/10

Oh I can prove that Trump is a racist piece of shit. :p

I simply do not think that the reason for why sometimes some companies are not releasing their games on PC is because they are dumb or backwards. There can f.ex. be money involded, moneyhatting?

Well, your original point was "Atlus knows better" or "there's more to it than they're clueless".

Then I received some arguments and changed my mind on Atlus.
 

MUnited83

For you.
Oh I can prove that Trump is a racist piece of shit. :p

I simply do not think that the reason for why sometimes some companies are not releasing their games on PC is because they are dumb or backwards.

It's a fact that Atlus are dumb and backwards, you can just observe their dumb and backwards actions they have done over and over, so you need a better example.
 
Oh I can prove that Trump is a racist piece of shit. :p

I simply do not think that the reason for why sometimes some companies are not releasing their games on PC is because they are dumb or backwards.



For smaller companies ? Right.
For big companies ? Dumb af.

There's litterally no reason to think a game like Persona 5 wouldnt sell at least 300k.
As for Atlus being dumb, it's factual: Their streaming guideline (which shows they are clueless about this generation), the fact they never had a European branch (when Europe is fairly sensitive to Japanese games, moreso than USA).
 
I'm sure many companies have their reasons, usually business related I'm sure, for not releasing a game on PC but Atlus is fucking backwards. Their threat to people who want to stream their game is proof of that.
 

fantomena

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So why did Sony release Helldivers on PC? Test how the PC market would react? Why not also publish Nex Machina? Isn't that self-published by Housemarque?
 
So why did Sony release Helldivers on PC? Test how the PC market woudl react? Why not also publish Ex Machina? Isn't that self-published by Housemarque?


Helldivers is special. It's an indie game published by Sony, but they likely had in their deal the requirement to release on PC afterward.
 

fantomena

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Helldivers is special. It's an indie game published by Sony, but they likely had in their deal the requirement to release on PC afterward.

See, we don't know, as far as I know. They might have not payed fully for exclusive, it might have been part of an agreement. It's not always as easy as "because Sony/Housemarque is dumb/backwards".
 
See, we don't know, as far as I know. They might have not payed fully for exclusive, it might have been part of an agreement. It's not always as easy as "because Sony/Housemarque is dumb/Backwards".

Well, you are moving the goalposts now. No one asked why Sony doesn't release stuff on PC, they are a platform holder with no interest in the platform...
 

MUnited83

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So why did Sony release Helldivers on PC? Test how the PC market would react? Why not also publish Nex Machina? Isn't that self-published by Housemarque?

It's a small indie game, they don't give a crap about keeping it exclusive. It's likely they just let the developers make a PC version if they want.

See, we don't know, as far as I know. They might have not payed fully for exclusive, it might have been part of an agreement. It's not always as easy as "because Sony/Housemarque is dumb/backwards".
LMAO
Move those goalposts further why won't ya.
 
See, we don't know, as far as I know. They might have not payed fully for exclusive, it might have been part of an agreement. It's not always as easy as "because Sony/Housemarque is dumb/backwards".



Right... but what is your point here ? We're talking about a Sony published/owned game.
 

MUnited83

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No Im not? Im talking in general why some companies are sometimes not or never releasing games on PC.

First party console owner company not releasing their IPs on PC? What a shocker holy shit like literally everyone in the world was discussing those companies when talking about companies that don't release games on PC oh wait no
 

fantomena

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Yeah, but you chose a specific company that doesn't need to release their stuff on PC. What's the point of discussing that?

To discuss why Sony aren't allowing more (older) games to release on PC, games that perhaps might have been forgotten.

There were rumors about Journey being released on Steam through that SteamDB link, if it was the Sony game.

But yeah I see.
 
To discuss why Sony aren't allowing more (older) games to release on PC, games that perhaps might have been forgotten.

There were rumors about Journey being released on Steam through that SteamDB link, if it was the Sony game.

But yeah I see.

Yeah, because we were all talking about the SteamDB leak... Come on, this isn't going anywhere and piling up even more unrelated arguments won't make it go somewhere.
 

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Tizoc

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Atlus would lose nothing by putting their games on Steam.
It would bring good additional income for them for one thing.
 

fantomena

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This game is good.

In its core it's a Limbo clone, but due to the production value and better presentation, better than both, Limbo and Inside imho, people who've played them know what to expect tho

It's got some really nice ideas and a very creepy atmosphere. I very much recommend this game.

It's also only 2.5 hours long, so it never overstays its welcome

Also:

No spiders
No gore
No jumpscares


For people contemplating a purchase that are bothered by these elements

Im interested, but it costs a lot of money.
 

Uzzy

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Atlus are just saving the PC from the ravages of the waifu wars, which has blighted so many platforms to this day.
 

fantomena

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Tbh, I couldn't care less about Persona. Although, SMT is another matter.. :")

It would be so much easier to buy P4G on Steam, than to find my Vita somwhere in the house, then find the charger, then find the correct memory card and then start playing.

That reminds me, I still have a big Vita backlog. Ive barely touched Soul Sacrifice.
 

Ludens

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Are you ready for MG: Survive release date and new trailers at E3?
Will Big Boss locked behind a pre-order bonus? Maybe it will be the first dlc available at launch for 5.99€?
 

Ludens

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Those posts remind me I still need to play Persona 3 FES from several years, got to floor 10 on Tartarus and got bored because after three fights all my characters are already fatigued.
 

Anteater

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Those posts remind me I still need to play Persona 3 FES from several years, got to floor 10 on Tartarus and got bored because after three fights all my characters are already fatigued.

p3 is the better game than p4, don't listen to everyone that tells you otherwise

you can always skip fights in tartarus straight to the boss, you will also be underleveled but it's also super fun when you are
 

Ludens

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p3 is the better game than p4, don't listen to everyone that tells you otherwise

you can always skip fights in tartarus straight to the boss, you will also be underleveled but it's also super fun when you are

Dunno, it's the only Persona game I have. I didn't like the fact I need to dick around doing activities around the school in order to build up my stats, and the fact there are 200+ floors killed my will to play it.
 

Anteater

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Chie's from Persona 4 though.

checkmate roboleon

Dunno, it's the only Persona game I have. I didn't like the fact I need to dick around doing activities around the school in order to build up my stats, and the fact there are 200+ floors killed my will to play it.

I mean each floor is super short and most of the story is from the activities in school... it's basically what the game is
 

Tizoc

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Oooooooh 'Exfiltrate' means 'GTFO'. I did wonder why I felt like I needed to kill the soldiers in the first mission but didn't need to in Sniper GW3 :V

Ah well I'll do the main mission stuff but I am very disappointed at how lame the Bow aiming is :(
 

Nzyme32

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Based mitx machine.

Managed to transport my machine across the country in my luggage and all set up again, with a better monitor than before. Neat!
 
So Prophecy of Pendor (a Mount&Blade mod) has achievements...
(Yes, that is my character--Artylla--in a weird running pose.)
They actually give in-game bonuses, which is something I wish caught on instead of the whole "score" thing. (Also, there's negative achievements!) It gives a lot more room to personalise a game than just an arbitrary, out-of-game score/checklist.

Now that I think about it, Alpha Protocol basically had a similar system, though it didn't classify them as "achievements." And it was cool there, too.
Those posts remind me I still need to play Persona 3 FES from several years, got to floor 10 on Tartarus and got bored because after three fights all my characters are already fatigued.

Huh. I guess the fatigue system ins FES is different than Portable. The only thing that fatigued characters in the latter was being KOed and rezzed out of battle; it kind of made the system superfluous.
 
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