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Steamworld Dig: A Fistful of Dirt |OT| Can you dig it?
- Thread starter peanutbutterlatte
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blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Perhaps. It's absolutely relevant to this game, though.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Well, you're certainly entitled of your opinion. *shrug*
B-But it is listed on Jeremy Parish's Metroidvania.com page!!
Personally, I agree with you. It don't see the Metroid connection at all. It's a very fun game, though
Lord British
Member
It doesn't matter, and I don't mean that in a dismissive "let's not discuss this" way; so, so many threads on so many forums devolve into "does this belong to genre x", though. I, personally, find that it ticks the boxes of what I consider Metroidvania, but if anyone disagrees that's cool, it doesn't affect my experience.
Metroidvania is a disgusting term because it reminds me of how awful the Castlevania series became, and it also reminds me that the people using it are probably too young to have grown up playing Metroid, which is really the main thing defining how people use the term. The only things Igarashi's awful Castlevania games adding to the formula are exp, bad level design, and collect em all grinding. None of those are really suitable for the 2D exploration genre, and are often not present in the games people call "Metroidvania".
Extra Sauce
Member
I find that part in particular to be completely wrong. People who grew up playing Metroid are the only people I know who use the term "Metroidvania".
Also, Steamworld Dig shares elements from both series so I don't see the problem.
Admittedly I imagine even most long term fans played far more Metriod-style Castlevania games than Metroid simply due to sheer bulk. If it weren't for the Metroid resurgence via MP it'd likely almost literally be 10-to-1 of seriously played titles if your Metroid experience was mainly with Super Metroid.Metroidvania is a disgusting term because it reminds me of how awful the Castlevania series became, and it also reminds me that the people using it are probably too young to have grown up playing Metroid, which is really the main thing defining how people use the term. The only things Igarashi's awful Castlevania games adding to the formula are exp, bad level design, and collect em all grinding. None of those are really suitable for the 2D exploration genre, and are often not present in the games people call "Metroidvania".
Buuut as Castlevania's no longer there temporarily or permanently I've fallen back on Metroid-style games. And while this resembles it I don't think I'd actually call it that, it's like a cousin to Metroid or something at most.
Metroidvania is a disgusting term because it reminds me of how awful the Castlevania series became, and it also reminds me that the people using it are probably too young to have grown up playing Metroid, which is really the main thing defining how people use the term. The only things Igarashi's awful Castlevania games adding to the formula are exp, bad level design, and collect em all grinding. None of those are really suitable for the 2D exploration genre, and are often not present in the games people call "Metroidvania".
In that context, I have to agree, lol. I always thought it was bizarre how the term came about since I'm pretty sure "Metroidvania" was originally used to describe the Castlevania games which riffed on the Metroid formula (aka Igavania), but then somehow it ended up becoming a way to describe an entire genre of games. The "-vania" half of "Metroidvania" always seemed redundant to me.
In any case, defining a genre by the game(s) which popularized it is always dumb.
chris121580
Member
Congrats imageform! Glad to see they gave it some attention
My only criticism is that it's wayyyyyyyyyyy too short. Only three levels to dig though is just not enough.
trickyhero
Member
Just finished this yesterday, took me about 9 and a half hours, but I was searching for every treasure I could find and died alot by lasers right before the end of the game. I thought it was ok, it's a very unique game, and I'v never really played a "metroidvania" game, other than Super Metroid, so I can't really comment on that, but I enjoyed it.
thechristoph
Sir!
I started playing this last night and it seems like you just hold down and A most of the time, and left/right and A the rest of the time. I haven't yet found any brilliant gameplay or anything reminiscent of fun yet. Does the game take a while to warm up?
Looks like it hit #1 in NA! Congrats. It's a game worthy of the success.
https://twitter.com/ImageForm/status/375316119516897280
https://twitter.com/ImageForm/status/375316119516897280
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
It get's only down from there.
jufonuk
not tag worthy
The hell, this wasn't even on my radar? I came across it on Nintendos site,consider me buying it tonight ,
Just a few things
How pick up and play it ?
Levels good for bite sized gaming ?
How long does it last?
Bit either way looks great consider my copy purchased after work tonight
Just a few things
How pick up and play it ?
Levels good for bite sized gaming ?
How long does it last?
Bit either way looks great consider my copy purchased after work tonight
It's not particularly good for pick up and play as you need to save back in town, but I found sleep mode fine while plying through it.
Most people seem to finish it in 5-8 hours, it varies depending on if you want all the upgrades and how meticulously you are searching the areas for loot. People are already speed running it in under an hour though.
It's awesome, one of my faves this year!
Most people seem to finish it in 5-8 hours, it varies depending on if you want all the upgrades and how meticulously you are searching the areas for loot. People are already speed running it in under an hour though.
It's awesome, one of my faves this year!
jufonuk
not tag worthy
thanks, ok this is gonna be my next purchase
God I just picked up this game last night and was completely blown away. After so many people on GAF have been talking up this game I wanted to add more to the already positive reviews on this thread.
The graphics are what most surprised me since every single picture I've seen of reviews blow those pictures up to make it seem that this a pixelated piece of crap and that this game was a GBA game ported to DSiWare. The game moves so fluidly (feels like 60fps, but not sure if it is) and the jumping and controls are very tight and accurate which is necessary for this kind of game. Got to play for an hour and was about to open up a thread on how this should already be on like a "Top 5 eshop games" list. The price might seem like a bit too much, but I'm only hoping the game is long since that would be the only complaint that I would have from this game if that end up being true.
The graphics are what most surprised me since every single picture I've seen of reviews blow those pictures up to make it seem that this a pixelated piece of crap and that this game was a GBA game ported to DSiWare. The game moves so fluidly (feels like 60fps, but not sure if it is) and the jumping and controls are very tight and accurate which is necessary for this kind of game. Got to play for an hour and was about to open up a thread on how this should already be on like a "Top 5 eshop games" list. The price might seem like a bit too much, but I'm only hoping the game is long since that would be the only complaint that I would have from this game if that end up being true.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
It's also at the top of the PL recent bestsellers chart, btw.
jufonuk
not tag worthy
Just home from work and downloading it from the eshop , will give it a go then play some more tomorrow , awesome
What I played if it so far, I kind of find it zen digging away, only problem is I can see my self just randomly digging with no plan, this could cause my issues later on lol
What I played if it so far, I kind of find it zen digging away, only problem is I can see my self just randomly digging with no plan, this could cause my issues later on lol
Welcome to how I've been playing.
jufonuk
not tag worthy
crap, so did it cause issues later on? : now I am more awake I am thinking about leaving areas I can wall jump against, plus a possible clear path upwards.
I like how you have rocks you cannot break so you have something to jump against to leave the mine.
also how the steam jump can help at time
The Lamp Ideas make sense now, love how the water drains..... game has so many nice touches
a possible spoiler about upgrades,
can you increase the length that your torch burns?
jufonuk
not tag worthy
Ok as much as I love these type of games I always get stuck on them , I am
I can do the first two , but I run out of light. Is the final one near by? Also do I need to mine first upgrade pick axe and then set off or can I play as I. Quest and mine as a side quest upgrade when I get cash, cheers for the help
stuck in the mine with the three switches
I upgrade my lamp and pick whenever I can. You may have to hunt for gems first, then buy the upgrades, then do that mine.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Steamworld Dig More (or some other sequelly title) for 2014 please ImageForm!
Just beat the game (4:33). My thoughts:
The game definitely seemed to play very safe. Like it seemed like the was a conscious effort to streamline things and keep the player from getting bored especially for this type of game. You never go more than a few minutes without something new and it's very careful not to drag. I think that was the right call as it makes it very tight and engaging from start to finish however, on the other hand, I think there were a number of missed opportunities to increase the depth (pun intended?). I could have done with some more of the optional puzzle caves at the very least.
But "what ifs" aside the overall game is very well put-together and really nailed what it was trying to do. The game keeps a consistent pace, constantly give you more to see, has some good bouts of deliberate platforming between ad-hoc mining platforming and the player physics feel damn good. I highly recommend it.
The game definitely seemed to play very safe. Like it seemed like the was a conscious effort to streamline things and keep the player from getting bored especially for this type of game. You never go more than a few minutes without something new and it's very careful not to drag. I think that was the right call as it makes it very tight and engaging from start to finish however, on the other hand, I think there were a number of missed opportunities to increase the depth (pun intended?). I could have done with some more of the optional puzzle caves at the very least.
But "what ifs" aside the overall game is very well put-together and really nailed what it was trying to do. The game keeps a consistent pace, constantly give you more to see, has some good bouts of deliberate platforming between ad-hoc mining platforming and the player physics feel damn good. I highly recommend it.
I interviewed Brjann (CEO & Co-Founder) of Image&Form yesterday for the GamersInBeta.com podcast.
Podcast can heard here: http://gamersinbeta.com/gamers-in-beta-podcast-017-wiki-ping-envy/
Brjann's interview starts around the 1hr 3min mark.
Podcast can heard here: http://gamersinbeta.com/gamers-in-beta-podcast-017-wiki-ping-envy/
Brjann's interview starts around the 1hr 3min mark.
LonelyGreyWolf
Banned
How are you getting stuck? It's a pretty easy and straightforward game. There are pretty much no puzzles.
Not even with
Steam Jump?
gunstarhero
Member
Love this game so much - but I can't manage to beat
Still - loving it. A little easy though... unless what I think is the end of the game is not actually the end...
the boss - specifically the 3rd form
Still - loving it. A little easy though... unless what I think is the end of the game is not actually the end...
jufonuk
not tag worthy
Either I ran out of water and couldn't activate it and wall jump or use that and the
static dash
Or I was so tired from playing too long the idea slipped my mind , yeah I am old
This is why I always
buy a teleporter before going down; this way, even if I get stuck, I'm guaranteed a way out.
jufonuk
not tag worthy
I did that but, didn't have the hindsight to wait, I set it at the entrance area thinking I will get in, find the upgrade come out the cave and get back to the surface.
But got stuck, got a nice train journey to work will play some of it then.
I brought this blind, didn't see any hype for it or anything related to it, I stumbled across the trailer on Nintendo UK's site, found out if GAF had an OT (we'rein it ), saw the recommendations and pulled the trigger..game is wonderful and a joy to play , once you get into the groove, about 30-45 mins of random(as in you learn the game rules by mining etc)digging then it starts to open up, then it grabs you, if you like exploring/zen mining and acquiring upgrades this is for you..buy it
edit: update/bump (get this game some first page love)
I think I am at the end of the game,
computer boss
I think I have found all the discoverable upgrades, still have a few to buy, any list knocking around?
My contender for hidden gem of 2013
darkjedi187
Member
After seeing it on the ign top 25 list then reading this entire thread. I will be picking this up tomorrow it really looks like a fun game.
AcademicSaucer
Member
ign posted a review
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/18/steamworld-dig-a-fistful-of-dirt-review
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/09/18/steamworld-dig-a-fistful-of-dirt-review
SaintMadeOfPlaster
Member
Finally got the game! Played it for about an hour in my first setting and was very impressed. The next day I sat down to play it for a bit and all of a sudden it was four and a half hours later and I was watching the credits. So amazingly addictive.
Totally worth the money. Get it.
Totally worth the money. Get it.