Steph Curry Supernova

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Guys, hindsight is 20/20 when analyzing the NBA draft. There are seldom "sure things" and him developing into this was impossible to forecast. Nearly everyone agreed that, at best, he could be a rich man's Korver/Reddick/His Dad-type player.

I think what's most impressive and biggest difference from college is his handle. He's doing things to separate himself that are just unreal.
 

Nelo Ice

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Just saw the highlights and good god Steph Curry is a monster. He really is unguardable. And his presence alone breaks your defense since the rest of his team knows how to score.
 

hbkdx12

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Just saw the highlights and good god Steph Curry is a monster. He really is unguardable. And his presence alone breaks your defense since the rest of his team knows how to score.

This is probably one of the more understated things that i find incredible. I'm obviously not taking anything away from steph's prowess on the court but even if you could find a way to defensively contain him, there's 4 other guys on the court (especially when they go small ball) that can pretty much hurt you from anywhere when given the space.

The team overall is just incredibly solid and pretty much everyone can pull their own weight.
 

excaliburps

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Curry is ridiculous. I hope Golden State somehow goes undefeated going into Christmas. The Christmas day game versus the Cavs would be insane.

Man! That's going to be something if so! If I'm not mistaken, that would put GSW at 33 games won and would establish a new NBA record if they win.

Never seen anything like him before. The thing is, players have to press and bite on his pumpfakes 30 FEET out. So, what do you think happens, when you mix in lethal handles and all around floor game? He's a cheat code.

Yep. In all my life watching basketball, I have never seen anything like this. His shots are ones that coach bench stars for. I mean, some are close to midcourt that it's baffling. His latest barrage against Charlotte was just bonkers.

This is probably one of the more understated things that i find incredible. I'm obviously not taking anything away from steph's prowess on the court but even if you could find a way to defensively contain him, there's 4 other guys on the court (especially when they go small ball) that can pretty much hurt you from anywhere when given the space.

The team overall is just incredibly solid and pretty much everyone can pull their own weight.

I agree here. Klay hasn't even exploded at all and is having, by his own standards, a subpar season so far.

I think the scariest part of Curry's barrage is he hasn't played in a lot of fourth quarters and still managed to score 40+! Imagine him gunning for records. I'd say he'd break the most 3s in a game, etc. easy. Heck, his career high of 54 was breakable this season but Walton chose to rest him...which was a wise decision. He can consistently explode for 20+ in a single quarter.

Yep, Curry is using a Game Genie confirmed.


LOL! I can't blame him. Help should have been there or at least contest his layups more. I mean, his 3s aren't really guardable in the conventional sense, so at least make him work harder on interior points.
 

Fjordson

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Bogut's casual run in that vine is so funny to me for some reason. I mean that's basically his regular run speed, but it just looks like he's running some lackluster drill in the middle of the game. And he leaves soo early lmao. Just knows the shot is going in.
 

excaliburps

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We aren't winning. I have accepted it.

Pls Steph, don't hurt us.

This legit made me LOL.

Curry looks like an IRL version of me playing NBA2K with boosted stats and cheat codes

He's the only player whose 2K version is less capable than the real thing.

He is literally the reason I stopped playing 2K. Like if this shit is real why even play the game

Yep. Curry's performance now is the only time where my video game NBA player is outshone by the real one (Hall of Fame difficulty). I mean, I can't even score or do that in the friggin' game!
 
Then you risk looking like this:

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i said pick him up before halfcourt

not to do a weakass gamble for a steal
 

GaimeGuy

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So many in the Minnesota sports media talk about the foolishness of taking Rubio over Steph. It was Flynn that was the real mistake. I remembered being elated for a few minutes that the Wolves would have Rubio and Curry. Then they took fucking Flynn. Pretty typical for the Kahn era of course. And as much as this current core is fun, I would've loved to see Rubio, Steph, Love, healthy Pek and literally anyone else at the 3. That would've been a fun lineup.

Oh well. TOOOWWWWNNNNNSSSS!!
Same
 

Fjordson

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You're essentially asking for a full court press the whole game. I don't think that will ultimately work out.
Curry doesn't even bring the ball up half the time anyway. Tough to chase him around in some of the sets Kerr/Walton runs.

My favourites are when Klay and Curry are screening for each other in the paint or sometimes they just run a circle around each other and then cut out to the 3 point line at random. It's hilarious because some defenders start freaking out, not knowing who's going to burst out of the paint first.
 
What are the Warriors at now? 20 wins? What were '95 Bulls at through their first 20 games. They had a loss or two by then, no?

I'm probably not going out on a limb when I say this record has a good chance of being broken, barring any kind of injury to Steph.
 

Anth0ny

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What are the Warriors at now? 20 wins? What were '95 Bulls at through their first 20 games. They had a loss or two by then, no?

I'm probably not going out on a limb when I say this record has a good chance of being broken, barring any kind of injury to Steph.

Here's a good breakdown.

96 Bulls lost their first game after 5 wins.

They were 18-2 through their first 20 games.
 

bionic77

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What are the Warriors at now? 20 wins? What were '95 Bulls at through their first 20 games. They had a loss or two by then, no?

I'm probably not going out on a limb when I say this record has a good chance of being broken, barring any kind of injury to Steph.
I can't see then winning 72, the season is just so long and there are too many good teams in the league. It is really hard to play this well throughout. I am sure they will have several stretches where they are unbeatable but I can't see 73 wins.

I will say that if they get to 70 wins and drop 3 or less in the playoffs they have to be in the conversation for one of the greatest teams of all time.

Who saw this shit coming 3 years ago?
 

Saganator

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LOL! I can't blame him. Help should have been there or at least contest his layups more. I mean, his 3s aren't really guardable in the conventional sense, so at least make him work harder on interior points.

My favorite part is the coach (sorry don't follow the NBA) getting pissed as soon as Curry touches the ball. How do you let Curry be that wide open?
 

Fjordson

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I mean this team just won 67 last year and they look even better this year. If they really gunned for it I think they could hit 72.

I don't think they will, though. Harrison Barnes will be sorely missed this road trip so I wouldn't be shocked if GSW gets dinged in the next 5 games. And Kerr will probably rest guys occasionally like he did last year.
 
Johnny Flynn was a dumb pick but Ricky Rubio at the time was an incredibly young prospect who had already proven himself in the highest level of professional play outside the NBA. Rubio isn't really a bust either. He's a really good pass first PG. Coming out of Davidson, there were concerns that Steph couldn't convert to PG. I mean for every Steph Curry, there are many many more college shooters that couldn't hack it in the league. For example.

I don't think Jimmer had really been given a shot. Just like converting Curry to a pass first guard wasn't ever going to happen, turning Fredette into a spot up shooter isn't likely.

He got sent down to the Dleague and dropped 37 in his first game. He's a streaky undersized volume scorer in the style of Nate Robinson or Ben Gordon, and he'll only ever be a scorer.

Bring him off the bench with a green light and he'll put in buckets.
 
You need to check out the bulls best record in x amount of games. I heard they had a 27 and 0 run but not sure. Also would they be like 34 and 2 at some point point? Curious on that run.
 
I don't think Jimmer had really been given a shot. Just like converting Curry to a pass first guard wasn't ever going to happen, turning Fredette into a spot up shooter isn't likely.

He got sent down to the Dleague and dropped 37 in his first game. He's a streaky undersized volume scorer in the style of Nate Robinson or Ben Gordon, and he'll only ever be a scorer.

Bring him off the bench with a green light and he'll put in buckets.

He's been in the league for 6 years...I find it hard to believe that at this point he hasn't been put in as a microwave 6th man given that was one of the roles scouts pegged him for. Fact is he never adapted his game for the pros. Just watching his 37 point highlight, you can see why... His shot is slow for his size (if you're undersized you either need to have a quick release or be able to outjump your defender- he does neither). His finishes are all these low and slow up and unders that would just get ripped and blocked by NBA defenders. And dropping 37 in the D-League doesn't mean you're automatically going to be a productive NBA player. I mean the top scorers in the NBDL right now are averaging like 25-30 ppg and yet most of them won't get a call up. I wouldn't emphatically conclude that the door is closed on Jimmer but from what I've seen, he's a lights out college scorer with skills that haven't translated to the NBA.

But back to my original point, which was that Steph Curry coming out of college wasn't a sure pick and I don't fault a lot of the teams ahead for skipping out on him...except for the T-Wolves with their second 1st round pick (Rubio pick was fine at the time).
 
Guys, hindsight is 20/20 when analyzing the NBA draft. There are seldom "sure things" and him developing into this was impossible to forecast. Nearly everyone agreed that, at best, he could be a rich man's Korver/Reddick/His Dad-type player.

I think what's most impressive and biggest difference from college is his handle. He's doing things to separate himself that are just unreal.

In his second to last year of college, yeah I'd agree with you, but when he came into last year of college, his handles showed significant improvement. That's when I honestly changed my ceiling for him. Never thought he would be THIS, but it was clear by his last year college, he wouldn't be a rich man's Korver or Reddick. He improved his handling and assist rate by a ton in his last college season.
 

charsace

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In his second to last year of college, yeah I'd agree with you, but when he came into last year of college, his handles showed significant improvement. That's when I honestly changed my ceiling for him. Never thought he would be THIS, but it was clear by his last year college, he wouldn't be a rich man's Korver or Reddick. He improved his handling and assist rate by a ton in his last college season.

lol at Korver and JJ. I thought Curry was going to be a better version of Mark Price. He's blown away my expectations.
 
I'm a Warriors fan and I never expected this. Mostly it had to do with how many times he was injured in his first couple seasons. I always liked him as a player, but I never thought he'd be this good, because I didn't think he was going to play enough. His health is what has really impressed me during this run.
 
I'm a Warriors fan and I never expected this. Mostly it had to do with how many times he was injured in his first couple seasons. I always liked him as a player, but I never thought he'd be this good, because I didn't think he was going to play enough. His health is what has really impressed me during this run.

I was a Curry fan back when he was in college, I never expected him to grow this much at all. Dude went from Krillin to SSG Goku real quick, all it took was an injury then a senzu bean.
 
KD use to be the undisputed king of stop and pop 3s in transition but Steph has taken it to a new level. I've never seen a player be able to go from a full sprint to a controlled 3 point pull up the way steph does. It takes an incredible amount of body control to maintain your shooting form and jump stright up in the air when you're coming of a 3/4 or full sprint.
I dunno how he does it. But it might be the most lethal offensive weapon in the game, the pull up 3 in transition.
 

Tarsul

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KD use to be the undisputed king of stop and pop 3s in transition but Steph has taken it to a new level. I've never seen a player be able to go from a full sprint to a controlled 3 point pull up the way steph does. It takes an incredible amount of body control to maintain your shooting form and jump stright up in the air when you're coming of a 3/4 or full sprint.
I dunno how he does it. But it might be the most lethal offensive weapon in the game, the pull up 3 in transition.
It sure is. Teams without adequate 3-point-answers can't win against a warriors/curry offensive. You simply cannot score enough points with 2 pointers. Whenever Curry has a night with 9/15 threes it means 27 points with 15 throws, it's nearly impossible to do that with two pointers. He breaks the game, as is.
Additionally, he had 2 games within a ten days where he scored 9 three pointers each. And if you look at the stats you can see that normally a game where a single player scores 9 threes comes roundabout along three times per season. (it's definititely happening more often these past few years)

I don't watch a lot of basketball but at least I watch the highlights of the warriors games since it's history in the making (and fun to watch since curry is one of a kind with his play style). I'd argue that we are seeing the best offensive effort from a single player ever. No hyperbole.
 
It sure is. Teams without adequate 3-point-answers can't win against a warriors/curry offensive. You simply cannot score enough points with 2 pointers. Whenever Curry has a night with 9/15 threes it means 27 points with 15 throws, it's nearly impossible to do that with two pointers. He breaks the game, as is.
Additionally, he had 2 games within a ten days where he scored 9 three pointers each. And if you look at the stats you can see that normally a game where a single player scores 9 threes comes roundabout along three times per season. (it's definititely happening more often these past few years)

I don't watch a lot of basketball but at least I watch the highlights of the warriors games since it's history in the making (and fun to watch since curry is one of a kind with his play style). I'd argue that we are seeing the best offensive effort from a single player ever. No hyperbole.
Great post.
And I agree, we've never seen anyone with this kind of scoring ability.
I thought Kevin Durant had a shot at being the best offensive player in nba history but what curry is doing is utterly insane.
If this kind of prolific scoring is sustained over the course of the season, Steph is the next Jordan in terms of his brand and marketing power. And people are drawn to the fact that his offensive feats aren't really about freak athleticism. Physically, tye average person can relate to Steph more than Lebron or MJ or KD.

Helps that he's a likable guy too.
 
Best player since Jordan.

That's basically saying he's better than prime Shaq, Duncan, Lebron, Durant and Kobe. Yeah this guy is doing some crazy stuff offensively, but I think it's a bit of an injustice to those aforementioned players. Those guys, well not Durant so much, had much better two-way impact. But yeah, if we're talking strictly scoring process Curry might take it mainly because he can rake up points so quickly due to range shooting. That's the unprecedented part, but saying he's outright better off the first quarter of this season? That's a little soon for such a declaration IMO. Kobe wasn't nearly as prolific a shooter, but we can't forget some of the insane offensive performances he was putting up 10 years ago.
 

Fjordson

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That's basically saying he's better than prime Shaq, Duncan, Lebron, Durant and Kobe. Yeah this guy is doing some crazy stuff offensively, but I think it's a bit of an injustice to those aforementioned players. Those guys, well not Durant so much, had much better two-way impact. But yeah, if we're talking strictly scoring process Curry might take it mainly because he can rake up points so quickly due to range shooting. That's the unprecedented part, but saying he's outright better off the first quarter of this season? That's a little soon for such a declaration IMO. Kobe wasn't nearly as prolific a shooter, but we can't forget some of the insane offensive performances he was putting up 10 years ago.
Offensively he's certainly better than any of those names save for maybe prime Shaq just because of how dominant he was physically.

And Curry continues to get underrated on defense. He stopped being shit on that end like a year and a half ago.
 
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