Stop Killing Games has Reached 1,000,000 Signatures.

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To the delight of gamers and video game preservation enthusiasts worldwide, YouTuber Ross Scott's Stop Killing Games petition has finally reached 1,000,000 signatures after gaining enormous momentum over the past few days and breaking several hundred-thousand milestones at breakneck speed.
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Stop Killing Games Initiative Reaches 1,000,000 Signatures

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This is incredible but it needs at least 1.3-1.4M signatures to be on the safe side due to possible fake signatures / bots sabotaging the results.
 
mèx said:
This is incredible but it needs at least 1.3-1.4M signatures to be on the safe side due to possible fake signatures / bots sabotaging the results.
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Yep, got to push higher because no doubt a certain percentage of folks did what they weren't suppose to and signed it.
 
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I'm all for it, but all it does is they make them have to just talk about it. so can't they just be like "yea, no thanks, we don't have the resources. have a nice day." end meeting
 
Are all million-plus of those people going to volunteer their time and skills to patch games that were never profitable and never designed to have an offline mode?

When a developer tells people that they're making an always online live service game that has no dedicated single player mode, buyers don't get to be all [SHOCKED PIKACHU FACE] when that game eventually shuts down and they're left with a coaster. The developer told everyone exactly what to expect and people bought it anyway.

If people want to stop "losing" games, it begins by not buying into this shady shit in the first place.
 
An increasing number of video games are sold effectively as goods - with no stated expiration date - but designed to be completely unplayable as soon as support from the publisher ends.
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Pretty sure the terms we agree to, when purchasing games, completely negates this.

Europeans seem to get a lot of [stupid] stuff done by crying enough about things though, such as allowing alt stores on Apple devices and outlawing loot boxes.
 
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Herr Edgy said:
Don't worry guys. I signed today. Thank me later.
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I hope that you and the rest of the people who sign it didn't make a single mistake during the sign up process otherwise your signature will be invalidated.

Perhaps it would be better ti push for 1.25 million signatures to account for redundancies that will get filter out by mistakes.
 
Reminder that this is basically just a legally binding request from EU citizens to have the EU take a look into this particular grievance of theirs. There's no guarantee that this will lead to actual action from the Union and tbh we should set our expectations very low in case they just completely disregard this as a non-issue like the UK did with the 10000 petition.
But at least we'll finally be able to have some official eyes pointed to the issue and that's something considering how apathic governments have been towards the "you'll own nothing and be happy" movement that tech corps have been slowly imposing on us throughout the years.
 
Brakum said:
Is that a legit conncern when you need an ID to vote?
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Apparently it's not necessary for every country. I've read that Germany and Greece for example only require a valid address, no idea if it is indeed the case, but if it is then it's probably quite easy to bot and farm signatures. So it's quite important that people don't ignore this because it already reached 1M. Every single signature is important.
 
Nydius said:
Are all million-plus of those people going to volunteer their time and skills to patch games that were never profitable and never designed to have an offline mode?
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This is not what the initiative is about though, and it's not even realistic to expect that.

The initiative is about protecting consumer rights and having a law in place for games becoming completely defunct at their end of support.

And as I understand it, it would accept some form of the game continuing to be playable, and not the full experience it once used to be when supported (...).

It's also not expected to work retroactively (it would be nice, but it would also be some small miracle), and it's aimed to games that will be designed in the future with an end of lifespan plan in place and worked into the development/production cycle.

Yes, perhaps people should not buy live-service games that are mainly impacted from this in the first place, but oh no, that's not happening in a million years, but if it did, there still would not be a law clearly protecting consumer rights in place for a game you purchased becoming permanently defunct due to the publisher deciding it's time to pull the plug (...).

The initiative is explained in the website and on too many of Ross Scott's videos on his Accursed Farms youtube channel in more detail and clarity that I could ever put in a forum post(s) (writing in a non-native language).
 
It is cool and I like the idea behind this... but idk I have the feeling that calling politicians to regulate the video games can be monkey paw wish, it can backfire spectacularly.

The best solution is always to just be smart and dont buy those games. Is always online even on single player? Skip. Is the disc/card empty and requires a connection to download? Skip. But ofc, it is better to just put the solution on others.

Idk... Im worried about this.
 
GudOlRub said:
Apparently it's not necessary for every country. I've read that Germany and Greece for example only require a valid address, no idea if it is indeed the case, but if it is then it's probably quite easy to bot and farm signatures. So it's quite important that people don't ignore this because it already reached 1M. Every single signature is important.
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Yea, i didnt need id. But i made an mistake in my adress and it didnt count. So there is some kind of protection.
 
Topher said:
I'm talking about this petition nonsense. This is light years away from actual legislation
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Eh, it's still better than what we have now. Nothing.

Also, the EU Commission are not that late usually to present a bill once the base threshold for all states, are met, which the petition is comfortably past now.

It would be better to get more 500K signatures, yes, just be on the safer side, because of bots and other spoof accounts.
 
VolticArchangel said:
Eh, it's still better than what we have now. Nothing.

Also, the EU Commission are not that late usually to present a bill once the base threshold for all states, are met, which the petition is comfortably past now.

It would be better to get more 500K signatures, yes, just be on the safer side, because of bots and other spoof accounts.
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Good points
 
lol the poor guy ross wanted out. He saw it was a mistake and was tired of it.
Now he will have to somehow go through with this.

Honestly, doesn't matter to me at all. online games dont matter to me at all.
All the games I am interested in, are usually not internet connected.
I think it's a good cause but ultimately very naive and waste of time
 
Weird I guess this is only Europe. And why isn't the UK on it? Guess USA doesn't get a vote either.

Wow some countries like Poland and Hungary you need passports and all sorts of crazy info.
 
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