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Summer Anime 2015 |OT| SharingMana
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MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
The World of Naruto makes zero sense anyway, they have radios and Ninja Mount Rushmore but they still throw knives at each other?
Didn't the author say that guns would be OP as hell in the world of Naruto?
Why do you constantly want people to come at you?
CheapJuice
Member
It seems it's ramping up to something alright. I noticed differences, but I couldn't figure it out until I compared side by side. I feel like they want to tell us something!
a) They changed the animals to something not as cute and added more of it, it's also darker outside.
b)
Megu-nee face is wiped
c) What used to be pleasant pictures are now something else. It's also more.. wore down I guess the word is?
But perhaps the most disturbing thing is in the ED!
Buckle up boys!
AquaWateria
Member
Yeah I can see that but still that power was way too overpowered and the only reason Sasuke won against Danzo was because of plot armor.
Also imagine if Tobi had gotten Izanagi. The whole series would've been over already.
I feel like the show so far has been about how others struggle to various degrees to accept Kirino's love for eroges, so I can understand to a certain degree that the side characters are the ones that get more development as their relationship with Kirino evolves.
Having her stay as a spoiled, abrasive brat that sometimes relapses into dere-dere mode when she thinks about onii-chan stuff is a bit of a pain, but I guess the show has already stated right from the start that that's who she is, and Kyousuke's only helping others explore and understand all of Kirino's facets rather than keeping her academic, modelling and otaku lives separate from each other. It isn't about Kirino growing in some way, but about her and the people she care about to come to terms with all aspects of her personality.
.. Or it's just siscon bait. I dunno.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
How? They would be about as useful as in DBZ. That is, completely worthless.
AquaWateria
Member
Remember when Naruto relied on tactics with Kunai knives and other Ninja weapons, well all that disappeared when timeskip happened and power levels started becoming the main aspect of the series.
Poor Tenten.😌
nintendoman58
Member
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
No I don't remember that. Tenten was always useless anyway. Why would you specialize in something so worthless?
That was, like, the best episode of Champloo. That and the episode where Jin meets his waifu.
So then it doesn't matter if they have or use guns.
Tenten is, was, and will forever be trash.
? Tobi had Izanagi. And used it twice. Against Itachi's Amaterasu and against Konan
Can't really comment as I haven't delved deep enough into OP but the format of multitude of dozens of self contained islands you don't have to elaborate on till Luffy's crew gets there seems to ease up the task.
This is a Samurai Champloo gif right? Like that looks like Mugen but I can't remember this fight. It's been a while since I've watched Champloo though.
The money conterfeit episode.
Edit: Ep 15 to be precise.
Gon exists. Your argument is invalid.
I don't ? I hereby challenge you to provide 5 more instances where I asked people to come at me.
Come at me.
AquaWateria
Member
It wasn't worthless in the beginning though.
Also I blame Kishi in not being able to develop his female characters competently. Look what Sakura turned out to be.
Actually, it's just mostly because the creator built a mythology and background for the series before he actually started it, and at early parts in the anime he alludes to most of the major characters who wind up showing up later instead of just having new people pop up every time to be dealt with. For something as long as it is, his foresight was pretty on point for most of the series.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Well I didn't say that since they have radios they should also use guns. It's just weird because there is no indication they are that technologically advanced and then you go to Orochimaru's lab and he is doing super science experiments? What, where did all this equipment come from
It's not really an issue in Gintama since it's a comedy series.
That's just a problem for Shonen, the cool women characters get sidelined all the time. One Piece is also pretty bad at that.
One Piece is mostly just bad with the fanservice.
The female characters have been pretty strong, and they get treated equally in regard to narrative and development.
The only cool female Naruto has is Tsunade. Anko could have been cool, but she was just an Orochimaru/Kabuto tool every time.
Well, Naruto's mom was cool, but she's dead.
Shit, my bad, there's Konan, too. Three cool female characters. Two are dead now. One was dead to start the series.
The female characters have been pretty strong, and they get treated equally in regard to narrative and development.
The only cool female Naruto has is Tsunade. Anko could have been cool, but she was just an Orochimaru/Kabuto tool every time.
Well, Naruto's mom was cool, but she's dead.
Shit, my bad, there's Konan, too. Three cool female characters. Two are dead now. One was dead to start the series.
Another cute episode filled with incoming despair as our cute little group writes letters for a what their future will be. Hopefully Megu-nee will be written of for good as her story has been told. I'm just waiting to cry once something bad happens but damn I want them to all live.. ;__;
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Well actually everyone in One Piece gets sidelined unless they are Luffy, Zoro or Law. Whoops.
KenjiGlove
Banned
Real talk, Jin was easily the best character in Samurai Champloo, outside from the fact that he's basically a god by the end of the series he's also the coolest motherfucker around town.
Aikatsu 130-131
Ah yeah, we're getting units now. That led to great things in the first season. Sumire/Rin is an odd combo, but Rin is cool, so anything she does is fine in my book. Singing and dancing does make sense. Dancing Diva is an actual good unit name. Much better than any of the garbage names in season 2. I do enjoy hearing about the technical and bureaucratic aspects of idolhood. It keeps the show slightly grounded. I'm not fond of Tutu Ballerina as an ending, but the dance with it was great. Sumire and Rin tended to have some of the better dances, so naturally together they get the good stuff.
Ah yeah, we're getting units now. That led to great things in the first season. Sumire/Rin is an odd combo, but Rin is cool, so anything she does is fine in my book. Singing and dancing does make sense. Dancing Diva is an actual good unit name. Much better than any of the garbage names in season 2. I do enjoy hearing about the technical and bureaucratic aspects of idolhood. It keeps the show slightly grounded. I'm not fond of Tutu Ballerina as an ending, but the dance with it was great. Sumire and Rin tended to have some of the better dances, so naturally together they get the good stuff.
You mean all of those characters whose backstories we already knew?
Of course the last part of the latest arc focused on Law and Doflamingo.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
It's been like that since the start of the timeskip. Half the crew didn't even show up for over a year during Dressrosa. The gap between Luffy/Zoro and Sanji used to be small but now the gap between them is like the gap between Sanji and Nami. Sanji is pretty much just a joke character now.
I'm pretty sure there was a purpose for that...
Also, there were so many people on Dressrosa. We had to get Sabo in. We had to get Fujitora in. We had to get Doflamingo's story. We had to get Law's story. There were all the colosseum fighters. Corazon, Rebecca, Kyros, Dressrosa itself.
There just wasn't room for the entire Straw Hat crew. And besides, their absence was leading to something.
Robin got fair screen time.
AquaWateria
Member
I can't wait when Sanji makes his full come back.
He's going to come back so strong.
I'm confused how he's a joke character. Vergo was strong as shit. Sanji lost. He was hurt for most of his half of Dressrosa. He even got a compliment from Doflamingo while fighting injured.
AquaWateria
Member
Because of the nosebleed gimmick he has when seeing women after the timeskip happened. However I don't see the difference between that and Luffy only thinking about food/being a airhead or Zoro having a shitty sense of direction.
I mean the only really competent calm character there is in the crew is Robin.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
I guess you really liked those first two chapters of the series, and then thought it was all downhill from Chapter 3 on?
I don't think this is fair. Yeah, half the crew disappear in Dressrosa, but that was for plot reasons.
It's certainly not just Luffy/Zoro/Law doing stuff. Usopp played a major role in that arc, too.
That doesn't mean he's a joke character. It's just an overused Japanese quirk.
Sanji can't handle women. Zoro can't handle directions.
Man, I miss when Naruto was just Naruto and Iruka sensei in the woods...
Haha.
There are so many characters in the arc. You can't fit in everyone. They needed room to characterize and develop new people.
Talking about females, Viola has been integral. Rebecca, outfit aside even though that is a big deal, and it's pathetic she was dressed the way she was that whole time, was characterized well. Robin was around and doing stuff.
names2hard4you
Member
School Live 7
This one was much more relaxed, although it did have its own moments of despair here and there. Yuki's world seems to slowly, each episode start collapsing, it's happening one brick at a time, but eventually I think that the whole thing will fall. Episode was great, and that last part with the letters was pretty sweet. That drawing saying "we are OK" kinda gave me the feels lol.
This one was much more relaxed, although it did have its own moments of despair here and there. Yuki's world seems to slowly, each episode start collapsing, it's happening one brick at a time, but eventually I think that the whole thing will fall. Episode was great, and that last part with the letters was pretty sweet. That drawing saying "we are OK" kinda gave me the feels lol.
AquaWateria
Member
Maybe I exaggerated a bit but the series did take a big hit when the Uchihas eye power started becoming more and more prominent. I was fine with Sharigan in the beginning when it could copy ninjutsu and give the user enhanced reflexes. However when it started having the ability to manipulate reality that's when things started becoming a bit too much.
I actually enjoyed part 1 of Naruto and found it good, it's just when the timeskip happened and the series progressed it declined imo. Although there were some good parts in the timeskip.
I assume you've seen Utena (given your fondness for PingDrum)? It's clear Enokido was going for the same formula as he used there; it's the "magical girl" episode trope, introduce a character with an emotional disturbance that only gets solved through beating the crap out of them, rinse, repeat etc.
The difference being, of course, that Utena's episodic characters are memorably tormented, while Star Driver's were flat and uninteresting (as you mention before), so the repeated structure is less obvious and irritating. The conclusions of the fights are no less obvious (Utena only clearly loses once in the whole series) but it doesn't matter because you don't care if she wins or not, you care about how the story resolves for the episode's main character.
Star Driver couldn't even manage a Saionji, let alone a Jury type, in its cast, so of course it seems pointless and repetitive.
Utena is also wrapped up in layers of visual invention that Star Driver didn't have despite its vastly more flashy animation.
Someone who liked the show more than me can probably explain this, but did the Glittering Crux have any motive for themselves in releasing the Maiden's Seals? The Student Council in Utena is a framing device; they each seek the Rose Bride for themselves to unlock their own revolution, which is what defines them as characters; I don't remember that kind of personal motivation for the Crux members, and indeed only really remember a little about them at all.
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Yes, Utena is a particular favorite of mine.
And while Enokido was using the same basic format, it also made it abundantly clear to me that Ikuhara should get most of the credit for how Utena turned out, because Enokido wasn't capable of making even a single character in Star Driver feel sympathetic.
I'd say there are a few other factors that contribute to why Star Driver's issues are a bigger factor than they were with Utena. While Utena pretty much never loses, it was always conceivable that she could lose. The format of Star Driver made it obvious that Takuto could never lose, while even if you didn't think that Utena would lose, either, the show could at least hold that possibility out there. Beyond that, the duels were really a much more minor aspect of the show, compared to the sometimes quite lengthy fight scenes of Star Driver.
And when you combine that with Star Driver's utter failure to make you care about any character, it makes the whole thing feel meaningless. Another big failure is the sheer size of the cast. Utena keeps a largely manageable main cast, with some other characters who come and go for a specific episode or two. Star Driver's cast is bloated to near Code Geass standards, with the characters all being just as replaceable. This is a cast size that could function for a year long show, or a long running series, but not for a two cour series. And the characters all just seem to sort of consistently tread the same ground. Star Driver takes it further than Utena in this regard in that not only is every episode the same, but every story arc is the exact same.
A show like Utena has a set format, but the episodes can still deviate greatly in terms of the emotional content, while Star Driver feels like every episode is actually the exact same, with the characters all going through the exact same motions.
When you bring up the visuals of Utena, the metaphors and symbolism and thematic resonance, then it's no longer even a fair contest. We're comparing a gourmet steak to a cow pie.
Forget Revolutionary Girl Utena. Star Driver fails in character development and variety of story arcs even compared to Bleach
Cornbread78
Member
Yeah, I felt kinda sad at that ending the girls kept talking like they had hope still, as well as those letters, but the show hasn't shown there is any indication of help anywhere.
Hellraider
Member
Kokoro Connect was good. At times it was great. It never managed to become incredible. It had all the potential in the world and everything on its side but it was always afraid to take one more step out of the established tropes and turn into something excellent. It wouldn't suprise me if it many people were disappointed by the end.
Salvage is more than incredible, though.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Eccentric Family 04-05
Yeah, this show is pretty good. I still think the "Oh yeah, I ate your dad in some hot pot and I might eat you too LOL" thing is kind of weird but I think the MC and Ben Ten parts are probably the best stuff in the show, don't really care a whole lot about the other Tanuki guys or the dickhead twin family. I don't know what you are supposed to do when you are talking to the man who saved your mother and the woman who ate your father.
Gintama Courtesan of a Nation Arc
What????????? Is this actual plot development? I don't know how to respond to this! And where was Katsura during all this? On standby?
Shogun-sama is surprisingly a cool dude. The Elite Squad guys are cool, I hope they stick around. Gintoki x Tsu-ki 4ever.
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Now this is a weirdass list -
Japanese Fans Rank Anime's Ladies with the Scariest Tempers
I dunno why Asuna is on there and I really, really don't know why Revy isn't on there. At least Balalalalalalalalaika is.
Yeah, this show is pretty good. I still think the "Oh yeah, I ate your dad in some hot pot and I might eat you too LOL" thing is kind of weird but I think the MC and Ben Ten parts are probably the best stuff in the show, don't really care a whole lot about the other Tanuki guys or the dickhead twin family. I don't know what you are supposed to do when you are talking to the man who saved your mother and the woman who ate your father.
Gintama Courtesan of a Nation Arc
What????????? Is this actual plot development? I don't know how to respond to this! And where was Katsura during all this? On standby?
Shogun-sama is surprisingly a cool dude. The Elite Squad guys are cool, I hope they stick around. Gintoki x Tsu-ki 4ever.
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Now this is a weirdass list -
Japanese Fans Rank Anime's Ladies with the Scariest Tempers
I dunno why Asuna is on there and I really, really don't know why Revy isn't on there. At least Balalalalalalalalaika is.
That man partook in the eating of Yasaburou's father too !
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
It balances out, right???
names2hard4you
Member
Yeah I like how we don't know whether or not this is a nationwide thing, of just that one city. For all we know the whole world is infected. Would be cool if we the viewers got to know this. I wouldn't want the truth to mess around with what we are getting each episode. I could just see things turning for the worse if everyone truly is infected. Pretty sure that even Yuki wouldn't be able to keep their spirits up after that.
A few of them had goals. Head's was to time travel and relive his past eternally. The black haired yandere's goal was to free Samekh so that she could leave the island and travel with Sugata (she wanted to become an idol). A few of them wanted to cause damage in the real world with their cybodies.
This part I don't overtly remember but I think it was implied that tte higher phases also would have given their first phases a boost.
Cornbread78
Member
The Balloon launch itself was a little forshadowing to future events, imo, bit nobody really knows because the manga is still ongoing, with no end in sight from what's been said.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Gakkou Gurashi really feels like it's building to some big event. Trying to contact the outside world always seems to lead to tragedy in these types of stories.
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BassForever
Member
Yamada and the 7 witches ~12
As someone who only read a bit of the manga, the only time the rushed pacing felt like a determent was the finale and even then it wasn't so lighting fast that it ever truly hurt the series. Had this adaptation been given a full 24-26 episode run like it should have it'd be pretty much perfect, as it stands Yamada and the 7 Witches is still a very solid and easy to recommend series. Had a lot of fun with it and I plan to check out the apparently still ongoing manga.
As someone who only read a bit of the manga, the only time the rushed pacing felt like a determent was the finale and even then it wasn't so lighting fast that it ever truly hurt the series. Had this adaptation been given a full 24-26 episode run like it should have it'd be pretty much perfect, as it stands Yamada and the 7 Witches is still a very solid and easy to recommend series. Had a lot of fun with it and I plan to check out the apparently still ongoing manga.
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