Deputy Moonman
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I liked the cat costume and mechanics in 3D World. I know it's blasphemy but I wasn't as fond of the Galaxy games. Why I would enjoy 3D World more than Galaxy games probably makes no sense, but I did.
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Super Mario Wonder the best Mario Game ever?
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GametimeUK
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To me it feels like a modern day Super Mario World. It is certainly up there with the best in the series in my opinion, but it wouldn't be my number 1.
tylrdiablos
Member
It's a good game but I vastly prefer Super Mario World, Mario 64 and SMB3.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
If you ignore what 3 and world did for the series and allow a copycat then yes. The design is great and more importantly the co-op is top tier. As much as I love world, the co-op in that is dogshit compared to wonder.
cireza
Member
Game looks so randomish that it is the first 2D Mario game I didn't buy. Too many things seem annoying, starting with these shitty flowers that constantly spoil the game, all the stupid gimmicks put everywhere and the skill tree or whatever. Game looks piss easy on top of this.
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FinalBossWithTheMostPower
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Gameplay is peak Mario, but it's held back by lackluster bosses.
Koopa kids should be a staple.
Koopa kids should be a staple.
Rockondevil
Member
I had a great time completing it with my son.
However best game goes to Sunshine.
However best game goes to Sunshine.
tommib
Gold Member
Finally someone was brave enough to speak the truth.
Polygonal_Sprite
Member
I love me some Nintendo first party but I was honestly let down by it after all the hype and reviews. There were of course some memorable seeds but it really didn't feel all that different to the general level design and difficulty of the NSMB series. A solid 8 but far from even the best 2D Mario nevermind in the same Universe as 64, Galaxy, Galaxy 2 or Odyssey imo.
Slightly off topic but I've been thinking about playing through Sunshine on Switch. Anyone think it's better than what seems to be the general consensus that it's meh? I did play it at launch but didn't get past the second level as even then at 19 it seemed average in comparison to 64. Thx.
Slightly off topic but I've been thinking about playing through Sunshine on Switch. Anyone think it's better than what seems to be the general consensus that it's meh? I did play it at launch but didn't get past the second level as even then at 19 it seemed average in comparison to 64. Thx.
Jack Package
Member
I have finished every mainline Mario. If it wasn't for SMB, I'd never have got into gaming.
Wonder introduces some genuinely amazing ideas, like the ghosts. The Wonder Flower gimmick is fun, but it's just a gimmick. Nothing will beat the pure level design of World, Yoshi's Island or even NSMBU.
Wonder is also way, way to easy for 95% of it.
As an introduction for a new style, it's great, but I expect Nintendo to refine it for the next one and make something a bit more balanced.
Wonder introduces some genuinely amazing ideas, like the ghosts. The Wonder Flower gimmick is fun, but it's just a gimmick. Nothing will beat the pure level design of World, Yoshi's Island or even NSMBU.
Wonder is also way, way to easy for 95% of it.
As an introduction for a new style, it's great, but I expect Nintendo to refine it for the next one and make something a bit more balanced.
ComputerBlue
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It’s not the best, but I think I would put it in my top three, that includes 3D and 2D games. SM64, World, Wonder.
The more I played it, the more I fell in love with it, I got to a point where I’m 99.9% complete other than the final secret level, it’s so hard. My only issue with the game is that it’s overall a little too easy.
It’s always surprising to me when people put Galaxy in their top 3, the games are amazing but they control like dick out of nowhere sometimes and that frustration that comes with it ruins those games from being contenders.
The more I played it, the more I fell in love with it, I got to a point where I’m 99.9% complete other than the final secret level, it’s so hard. My only issue with the game is that it’s overall a little too easy.
It’s always surprising to me when people put Galaxy in their top 3, the games are amazing but they control like dick out of nowhere sometimes and that frustration that comes with it ruins those games from being contenders.
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DeceptiveAlarm
Gold Member
I just finished it the other day. It was definitely my favorite 2d Mario I have played in a long time. I would have to go back and replay for a true ranking. World is definitely my favorite. Wonder is really fun game though.
swaffles23
Member
When it comes to 2D Mario games, I would put it 3rd, just behind SMW and SMB3.
Maybe like 6th best game in the overall mainline Mario games.
Maybe like 6th best game in the overall mainline Mario games.
Ibara
Member
It looks nice but I found it quite boring.
There wasn’t much challenge until right at the end, the flower was annoying.
It could just be me but I feel like Nintendo always creeps further towards the model of “we want to design games so every 8 year old can finish them”
Maybe that was always the case, but the older games required you to use your brain a little more
I’m not at all against this either it just means these might not really be for me anymore
There wasn’t much challenge until right at the end, the flower was annoying.
It could just be me but I feel like Nintendo always creeps further towards the model of “we want to design games so every 8 year old can finish them”
Maybe that was always the case, but the older games required you to use your brain a little more
I’m not at all against this either it just means these might not really be for me anymore
saintjules
Gold Member
Mario 3 is hard to b3at.
I haven't finished Wonder, but I've played a decent amount of it. It's hard for me to say that it is better than SMB3, Super Mario World, Yoshi's Island, and Mario Galaxy.
It's by no means a bad game. But those four games I just listed are just absolute S Tier games. I don't think Mario Wonder is at that level.
It's by no means a bad game. But those four games I just listed are just absolute S Tier games. I don't think Mario Wonder is at that level.
EverydayBeast
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What the best Mario game is like a super secret i think their each own nice game.
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digoutyoursoul
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Really enjoyed it but Mario 3 and World are my favourites
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Shake Your Rump
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What life experience does one have to have to believe this statement? For me, Wonder is one of, if not the, least fun Mario games. I mean, how can this even compare to World or Galaxy? It's not even in the same league. I just replayed a Mario 64 for the first time since my release day N64, and even with its klunkiness, it is more interesting and fun than Wonder. I couldn't even bring myself to finish Wonder after a few hours.
Bingo. Even Odyssey and the NSMB DS games are more memorable.
I am still yet to decide if Galaxy 1 or 2 is the best.
Word.
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Regginator
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Including the 3D games? Hell no. Best 2D Mario if you play solo, but not if you do co-op.
One of the most fun experiences of the (recent) 2D games was trolling each other by picking up your teammate and throwing them off a cliff, or doing a ground-pound so they lose their bearing. I didn't particularly care for those earlier New-series when playing solo, but playing together was an entirely different - and a much more elevated - experience. Wonder does the complete opposite for me: absolutely stellar solo experience, but because they've completely removed any form of collision with your fellow players it makes for a pretty dry experience.
One of the most fun experiences of the (recent) 2D games was trolling each other by picking up your teammate and throwing them off a cliff, or doing a ground-pound so they lose their bearing. I didn't particularly care for those earlier New-series when playing solo, but playing together was an entirely different - and a much more elevated - experience. Wonder does the complete opposite for me: absolutely stellar solo experience, but because they've completely removed any form of collision with your fellow players it makes for a pretty dry experience.
Hero_Select
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Galaxy 2 is the best Mario game ever
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Wonder is the best one since SM64, certainly.
Borowski_1
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Best 2D, yes
Odyssey is the best Mario
Odyssey is the best Mario
Schmendrick
Member
It's nowhere near the galaxy games for me, those were definitely my favourites
SeasonedInTheAbyss
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I too grew up on Mario Bros. And I think Wonder is a really awesome addition to the family. I also have been playing them since the coin op SMB and SMB 3 is one of the greatest games ever made. And I don't really need to rank them in order anymore. Super Mario All Stars was the funniest time I had with my SNES. I was a lil late to the party but I got mine as a mail in offer with the SNES when me and my brother could afford to split it with our Xmas money. It was a perfect remake. Wired controllers and CRT monitor made for such perfect timing. After that I would also throw a salute to Galaxy being amazing for its time and concept. M64 always felt kinda wonky but it showed off what the future would become. And this thread needs some more Mario Maker. I spent a insane amount of time with my nephew making up our own ideas of levels.
kondorBonk
Member
Not even close. Its above the NSMB games but that's not saying much. The Donkey Kong and Rayman platforms (which Nintendo did get some inspiration from) are leaps and bounds better.
Once you see Tropical Freeze tell a small story as you progress through the stage using its background assets. (Like following a giant fruit from getting picked and processed through a factory while running the stage) the constant reused static background on Mario is jarring. Like watching an episode of the Flintstones with the background constantly being reused.
Once you see Tropical Freeze tell a small story as you progress through the stage using its background assets. (Like following a giant fruit from getting picked and processed through a factory while running the stage) the constant reused static background on Mario is jarring. Like watching an episode of the Flintstones with the background constantly being reused.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
I wish there was more of the harder levels at the end, I felt getting all the final challanges done where easier than Super Mario 3D world's equivalents.
SeasonedInTheAbyss
Member
Wait a minute this aboot SMB not Tropical Freeze. Which is maybe the best 2d side scroller Nintendo cranked out. Well Retro did all the work but it is a masterful game too.
Interfectum
Member
It was way too short but it was one of the most fun gaming experiences I've had in a while. Definitely up there with the greats but maybe a little too short-lived to reach those heights.
SeasonedInTheAbyss
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