I'm not sure turning the game into something where the majority of matches are determined in the first 5 minutes due to snowballing being a good solution to stalemates. Also, 26 minute jackbots are the real counter to stalemates.
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I'm not sure turning the game into something where the majority of matches are determined in the first 5 minutes due to snowballing being a good solution to stalemates. Also, 26 minute jackbots are the real counter to stalemates.
Isn't that pretty standard for MOBA style games?
Diablohead
Member
WHat's the worst is that a few hundred people are already level 70+ with good endorsements because the beta was more or less an early release, there was no resets so they know the maps, what to do and who can do what best.
Then we come along and try stuff out, get snuffed and told to go uninstall and play in the street from them.
Really bad management for beta testing there IMO, not having a reset means that there is going to be a huge mix of players from great to poor.
Then we come along and try stuff out, get snuffed and told to go uninstall and play in the street from them.
Really bad management for beta testing there IMO, not having a reset means that there is going to be a huge mix of players from great to poor.
That's what happens when you start accepting cash purchases when your game is far from being done.
BurningNad
Member
Man I would buy some cosmetic stuff if they weren't so expensive. $15 taunts and outfits are a big turnoff.
PedroLumpy
Member
That makes no sense.
I feel like they'd get more business if they lowered the prices a little bit.
Diablohead
Member
lol reading the update notes:
"When a player taunts after killing someone, the dead player now sees the entirety of the taunt with a special taunt camera."
This is welcomed, the game suits this kind of charm.
yep, half that price and you would see it used in games much more often.
Something a lot of companies seem to not realise, even uber
"When a player taunts after killing someone, the dead player now sees the entirety of the taunt with a special taunt camera."
This is welcomed, the game suits this kind of charm.
yep, half that price and you would see it used in games much more often.
Something a lot of companies seem to not realise, even uber
It's a bad mechanic that's been derided in MOBAs for quite some time. Also, other MOBAs like DOTA have in-match item stores that provide these bonuses which requires some planning in order to maximize your character. SMNC provides passive bonuses (in addition to Skill Passives) for normal actions in the game which causes player experimentation to be penalized. There's a reason the game is most enjoyable during the first 5 and last 5 minutes (of long matches). The levels are even.
PedroLumpy
Member
A well designed game ends quickly once one team is being dominated to the point of not being fun anymore. From my impressions SMNC missed on that one.
Tokubetsu
Member
Yeah that's another one of my big gripes. Their pricing is absolutely ridiculous. The bundles don't even feel like a deal, they feel more like they're trying to fuck you HARDER.
What other game did they look to for inspiration with these prices? LoL & even Tribes Ascend are way more reasonable.
I think every F2P game that's gonna monetize conent like this should start with a baseline that says "Okay, if they drop 50-60 (say the price of a full retail game) in our store then they should a full game's worth of content" and then go from there, adding more content etc. $15-20 for a cosmetic item is ridiculous. You're not TF2, you didn't launch with a full game already behind the service and an item economy that was based on drop percentage & achievements.
Diablohead
Member
Just noticed wascot is free, nice wanted to test him out.
Going to be a spank fest week online with his grapples.
Going to be a spank fest week online with his grapples.
Out of 50 games since public release, I'd say I've had 5 that were even. The rest are usually over in the lobby or before the first Anni.
Best thing about Wascot: Hunting down CG, Megabeth and Assassin to spank. Especially Megabeth in her School Girl costume. Yum.
BurningNad
Member
I was hoping I'd have enough coins before they did the next rotation, gotta go balls deep this weekend and unlock my Megabeth. <33333
Diablohead
Member
I hear gunslinger is good, cousin bought her but not tried myself. I have bought Tank but i'm not feeling him in this game, used to beast in MNC but here I get slapped silly no matter what I do.
Megabeth is just good overall, I like her but it feels like cheating lol but it is great fun using her weapon grapple to kick veteran off the map
Tokubetsu
Member
Gunslinger can be pretty good, big thing that sucks is often I don't feel like I'm helping my team when I play her. High burst damage but you have to be accurate and consistent (headshots on both bots and players).
I was going through my inventory the other day and noticed I had this:
I never even saw it drop through the prize system!
Hnnngg so awesome
Oh fuck you =/
As long as you're Knee Capping everyone that comes in range, you're helping your team.
Hahaha, well to be fair I think it's only 1.99 in the store.. but still, it's nice to get something that isn't a useless level 1 endorsement or a product I'll never use. Never found a costume piece, they must be as rare as a cosmetic item dropping in TF2.
Tokubetsu
Member
Yea, when I do get to use her I spam knee cap, don't worry haha.
BlackWaltz
lotta black folks here
Costcosaurus
Banned
How come I can't change classes in the middle of matches like I could in vanilla MNC?
Also, I want to get better at this game, so tips and suggestions on being a better player is welcomed.
Also, I want to get better at this game, so tips and suggestions on being a better player is welcomed.
Diablohead
Member
Tried out wascot this morning, hard as nails to use well but so fun especially grapple into spank on unsuspecting foes lol.
Gunner feels good, I like how when he mounts he still can't be grabbed and gives out an armour aura, nice deep clip and works well with the 80% accuracy perk.
Bought Megabeth with real monies, just had too.
I see snipers dominating like mad right now.
I guess that they just want you to stick with who you pick, I like it as if you set up wrong that is your punishment.
Gunner feels good, I like how when he mounts he still can't be grabbed and gives out an armour aura, nice deep clip and works well with the 80% accuracy perk.
Bought Megabeth with real monies, just had too.
I see snipers dominating like mad right now.
I guess that they just want you to stick with who you pick, I like it as if you set up wrong that is your punishment.
Tokubetsu
Member
There was a useless sniper on my team last night. Total garbage. Fed the enemy team in the lane my friend and I were also in, and by the end of the game was something like 2-11 with 30ish bots killed. Useless.
We still won despite her but it was rough, someone on tour ended up doing this game's equivalent of backdooring while the enemy team was pushing us hard and fucking up our lanes/turrets.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Because it's like DotA/LoL now.
BurningNad
Member
Sweet, thanks for the heads up!
Diablohead
Member
yeah it will vary, I can't do well with wascot but I see people top the boards with him somehow on the spunky city map.
Downloading the 1.4 gig update now...Baffles me as to why these are so damn big.
But, haven't seen the update specifics posted in the thread yet.
From http://store.steampowered.com/news/?appids=104700
Bolded are things I thought were interesting.
Edit: Whoops, last page. Anyways, looking forward to trying new free chars.
But, haven't seen the update specifics posted in the thread yet.
From http://store.steampowered.com/news/?appids=104700
Bolded are things I thought were interesting.
Edit: Whoops, last page. Anyways, looking forward to trying new free chars.
Tokubetsu
Member
Yea, actually made a comment to my friend about Wascot last night. Wascot players are either fucking amazing, or totally useless. There's zero in-between.
rohlfinator
Member
Yeah, I'm not really sure why that is. He seems to be more limited at escaping than the other commandos, so he really has to pick his fights wisely. That and he has a little less utility for taking out bots/turrets; all of his abilities are very player-focused.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
So what's the rewards for killing chicky?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Just played my best game yet Wonder if combat girl is going to get nerfed lol
Edit: nvm this is now xD
Wonder if combat girl is going to get nerfed lolEdit: nvm this is now xD
Just played my best game yet
Edit: nvm this is now xD
How do you upgrade? Kitty turrents first?
Gunner and combat girl are becoming my favorite characters. I would like to buy a couple characters, but hot damn it takes a ridiculous amount of play time to build up enough free credits for a 4500 characters, let alone 9000. Everything is overpriced. I don't mind paying LoL prices, but this is crazy.
Diablohead
Member
Gunner is a BEAST with the 80% accuracy every 30 seconds perk, once you get a crit you are shooting lasers over the map, his armour regen while deployed is also amazing I just turn it on and off for a free 250 armour out of thin air.
full team heal + armour I believe, a few times I have been in a fight to suddenly get full hp while the announcers talk about chicky.
So what's the rewards for killing chicky?
full team heal + armour I believe, a few times I have been in a fight to suddenly get full hp while the announcers talk about chicky.
Sanic
Member
Expired :/
Haven't played Super MNC in a few weeks, might give it a go today. In fact, I haven't played since the game went public. This should be interesting
Also I think you get a bunch of money for it.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Oh guess I should have me and another dude or 2 guys go kill chicky then
Yeah the 80% accuracy perk is so good that was the first present I got :3
My build for combat girl is, Sentry to 3, then max out sentry buff, max out lazer, max out health, max out damage, then sentry 4
Yeah the 80% accuracy perk is so good that was the first present I got :3
My build for combat girl is, Sentry to 3, then max out sentry buff, max out lazer, max out health, max out damage, then sentry 4
Costcosaurus
Banned
Anyone know good ways to gain a lot of in-game money? I would like to play as the other characters that are locked.
Tokubetsu
Member
Winning and playing a shit ton of games. That's how these games work. It's that idea that time is money, so you pick which one you want to use to purchase items. Your time, or your (actual) money?
PedroLumpy
Member
Considering how big the leveling part is to the game, how would switching characters work?
If you lost all your levels, it would be useless as there's no way as character switch could make up for that.
If you kept some of your exp, considering how characters can have good/bad early/late games, that would really fuck with that balance.
I'm at 350 hours played and about 500 CC shy of unlocking my last Pro. Haven't spent a dime yet and doubt I will (have $7.50 from Beta that Uber gave at Christmas though). I haven't really bought any endos or products. Just stuff that I've gotten since the Prize system went live. Quite a few bacons, almost all Prods (all I need anyway), tons of lvl 3 & 4 endos, a taunt, and a skin.
I like spark a lot, but he's so expensive. I won't be able to buy him until I've played like 75 games. It's frustrating.
Diablohead
Member
i'm a little glad as it's bad enough when every game spark or assassin is leaping around like a frog.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
What?