Super "NeoGAF Arcade Stick Thread" II TURBO

Shun said:
Metallic sanwa button and ball being show at JAEPO this weekend.

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so garish lol

gonna cop anyway
 
I'm thinking about jumping in and buying my first stick.

Looking at either the Venom or Mad Catz TES/TE2 fight sticks. Mainly gonna play on PC, so it has to work smoothly on that.

Suggestions?
 
Crimefighter said:
Gotcha. Would love to find a great stick that is PS4/PC compatible
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It's a while since I've hooked it to the PC, but from what I remember, the Venom registers as DirectInput under both PS3 and PS4 modes. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong here, but I'd have to imagine that is going to be the case for pretty much anything that doesn't explicitly state 360 or xBone support.
 
TheNamelessOne said:
I'm thinking about jumping in and buying my first stick.

Looking at either the Venom or Mad Catz TES/TE2 fight sticks. Mainly gonna play on PC, so it has to work smoothly on that.

Suggestions?
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If you are mainly looking for SFV, the smoothest experience on PC at the moment is probably to look for an old 360 or xBone stick, at least until such a time that the game supports DirectInput. Probably too many theoretical options to run through.

If you need something which also has PS4 native support, though, you'll need to deal with the stuff being discussed above in terms of xInput wrappers and the like for SFV until such a time that it supports DirectInput.

There's pretty much three tiers of options for PS4 support at the moment, really.

1) The Venom stick. It uses a generic chassis shared by a bunch of other sticks in the market, but it's well made enough, certainly compared to other sticks in its price bracket. It uses unbranded parts - this is the kind of thing where your personal mileage will vary depending on how much experience you have with sticks with particular arcade parts, but, personally (as someone terrible at fighters), I thought the stick was OK, but the buttons were terrible, but that might not be a problem if you aren't used to something else. You'd need to source a female-female 5pin JLF cable, but otherwise it'll fit Sanwa or Seimitsu sticks without issue (not tried Hori, and I've heard of mixed results with Seimitsu buttons - Sanwas are fine), which makes it a good option if you have fairly specific preferences when it comes to parts. I gather this old PS3/360 Mayflash stick used the same chassis, though I've no idea how it registers under Windows.

2) Hori HRAP4Kai. This feels like it has been threads main recommendation when people say "I want a stick" this last month, mainly because the price on Amazon was fluctuating pretty rapidly recently. Unfortunately, now that SFV is actually out, you've probably missed the best prices on it now that everyone is scrambling to buy sticks. It's more fully-featured than the Venom (it has a PS4 touch pad!). It uses Horis own parts - the stick is well regarded, the buttons slightly less so in a fashion that mostly comes down to personal preference. If you've not been using Sanwa buttons for years, you'll probably be good with this out of the box.

3) MadCatz TES+/TE2. Someone who actually owns one could probably be more insightful. A smidgen more expensive than the HRAP is looking at this point (and a fair bit more than the HRAP was as recently as last week). Again, more fully featured than the Venom. Uses the ever-popular Sanwa parts that most folks seem to have a preference for. Not been keeping up with the supply discussion, but I guess actually sourcing one may be the main issue at the moment.
 
DiGiKerot said:
If you are mainly looking for SFV, the smoothest experience on PC at the moment is probably to look for an old 360 or xBone stick, at least until such a time that the game supports DirectInput. Probably too many theoretical options to run through.

If you need something which also has PS4 native support, though, you'll need to deal with the stuff being discussed above in terms of xInput wrappers and the like for SFV until such a time that it supports DirectInput.

There's pretty much three tiers of options for PS4 support at the moment, really.

1) The Venom stick. It uses a generic chassis shared by a bunch of other sticks in the market, but it's well made enough, certainly compared to other sticks in its price bracket. It uses unbranded parts - this is the kind of thing where your personal mileage will vary depending on how much experience you have with sticks with particular arcade parts, but, personally (as someone terrible at fighters), I thought the stick was OK, but the buttons were terrible, but that might not be a problem if you aren't used to something else. You'd need to source a female-female 5pin JLF cable, but otherwise it'll fit Sanwa or Seimitsu sticks without issue (not tried Hori, and I've heard of mixed results with Seimitsu buttons - Sanwas are fine), which makes it a good option if you have fairly specific preferences when it comes to parts. I gather this old PS3/360 Mayflash stick used the same chassis, though I've no idea how it registers under Windows.

2) Hori HRAP4Kai. This feels like it has been threads main recommendation when people say "I want a stick" this last month, mainly because the price on Amazon was fluctuating pretty rapidly recently. Unfortunately, now that SFV is actually out, you've probably missed the best prices on it now that everyone is scrambling to buy sticks. It's more fully-featured than the Venom (it has a PS4 touch pad!). It uses Horis own parts - the stick is well regarded, the buttons slightly less so in a fashion that mostly comes down to personal preference. If you've not been using Sanwa buttons for years, you'll probably be good with this out of the box.

3) MadCatz TES+/TE2. Someone who actually owns one could probably be more insightful. A smidgen more expensive than the HRAP is looking at this point (and a fair bit more than the HRAP was as recently as last week). Again, more fully featured than the Venom. Uses the ever-popular Sanwa parts that most folks seem to have a preference for. Not been keeping up with the supply discussion, but I guess actually sourcing one may be the main issue at the moment.
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Alright! Thanks for that awesome write-up!
 
Skilletor said:
PS1, yes. PS2, no.
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Bleh, so the old stick not working issue pretty much never went away.

Anything on the market that will work PS2? Mainly just want to play CVS2 & Capcom Classics 1 & 2 with a good stick if given the chance. Kinda silly PS2 classics don't work with peripherals.
 
MC Cthulhu works great with SF5, although both times I played I had to reauthenticate the controller. Not sure if that's something you have to do every time.

Hopefully I can get my brook ufb stick wired up this weekend and test it out.
 
brooklyniteOne said:
Wanted to try out the Brook universal PCB and ended up changing out the art to this:

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The art is from the SF4 brooklyn nyc launch event. FGC. Launch day. yeah. lol
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That is a fantastic looking stick.


Cindi Mayweather said:
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Will have to stick to black joystick because I can't find any white Hayabusa's.
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I look forward to seeing the final. Hope you pull it off.
Kind of contemplating painting my TE2+ case when I get it to better fit with the artwork, lol
 
I have an older TE2 that's for the ps4 but lacks the touchpad. SF5 has revitalized my interest in fighting games so now I'm wondering which games I can safely play because they don't require the touchpad for basic gameplay? Is there a list somewhere that's maintained? Right now I'm thinking about Naruto Shippuden and MKX specifically.
 
Tanston said:
I have an older TE2 that's for the ps4 but lacks the touchpad. SF5 has revitalized my interest in fighting games so now I'm wondering which games I can safely play because they don't require the touchpad for basic gameplay? Is there a list somewhere that's maintained? Right now I'm thinking about Naruto Shippuden and MKX specifically.
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most games that use the touchpad use it for position reset in training. Blazblue lets you remap reset to another button. I think in MKX its stuck on the touchpad
 
I have a TES+ and TES2 coming that I ordered because of the amazon.ca price error, and I'm probably going to keep them both so I can play with my friends when they're over (even though I'm not the biggest fighting game fan, because I suck of course)

but my question is, that I have always wanted to build some kind of arcade cabinet. Would it be feasible to get a cheap cpu, use these sticks, cut the wood, get a screen etc and use these? Or do people kind of just buy the individual buttons, sticks etc and build it 'from scratch'.

I imagine something with a kind of dock where I could put the sticks in and out but have a stand up arcade setup when I want.

Is this feasible? feedback? I really want to keep the sticks cause of the price I got - although I totally don't need em haha.
 
Ryde3 said:
I have a TES+ and TES2 coming that I ordered because of the amazon.ca price error, and I'm probably going to keep them both so i can play with my friends when they're over (even though I'm not the biggest fighting game fan, because I suck of course)

but my question is, that I have always wanted to build some kind of arcade cabinet. Would it be feasible to get a cheap cpu, use these sticks, cut the wood, get a screen etc and use these? Or do people kind of just buy the individual buttons, sticks etc and build it 'from scratch'.

I imagine something with a kind of dock where I could take the sticks in and out but have a stand up arcade setup when I want.

Is this feasible? feedback? I really want to keep the sticks cause of the price I got - although I totally don't need em haha.
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Look into Raspberry Pi if you are thinking of building like a counter-top MAME cabinet or something.
 
Luigi87 said:
Look into Raspberry Pi if you are thinking of building like a counter-top MAME cabinet or something.
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I actually have a spare one, so that's awesome!

I guess what I'm wondering is how feasible it us to use the TES or TES2 as opposed to buying parts individually, and doing some hardcore wiring.
 
Ryde3 said:
I actually have a spare one, so that's awesome!

I guess what I'm wondering is how feasible it us to use the TES or TES2 as opposed to buying parts individually, and doing some hardcore wiring.
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Guess that depends on your carpentry skill and how integrated/seemless you want them to look. I'm sure it could be done and made to look like a "normal" cabinet. I don't think I could pull that off personally, but I'm sure it could be done.
 
Ryde3 said:
I actually have a spare one, so that's awesome!

I guess what I'm wondering is how feasible it us to use the TES or TES2 as opposed to buying parts individually, and doing some hardcore wiring.
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A "dock" probably wouldn't work - you'd probably just have to have a small shelf with a couple of USB extension cables left loose. Having two mismatched sticks (of those shapes) probably wouldn't give you a particularly great surface to play on, either. The older MC Versus series were probably the time to do that, honestly. Those probably would have worked pretty great for what you are trying to do.

Plus, the wiring on a custom panel really wouldn't be that hard.
 
I've seen something like that, either here or SRK probably, hell more than one I think. They used identical sticks and built a cab with a shelf/dock that they could kinda sit/slide into flush. Doing a quick search now, here's a really nice one for example:
http://www.destructoid.com/arcade-crazy-build-your-own-vewlix-style-cabinet-129032.phtml

If you're willing to forego the removable sticks part of it and just make a standalone cab, building your own panel would be better than trying to make a good shelf/dock for removable sticks. Pretty much just drill holes in the panel vs trying to build around the removable sticks while trying to keep them secure.

And yeah wiring isn't really hardcore if you DIY the whole thing, particularly if you just use whatever easy screw terminal controller boards.
 
japtor said:
I've seen something like that, either here or SRK probably, hell more than one I think. They used identical sticks and built a cab with a shelf/dock that they could kinda sit/slide into flush. Doing a quick search now, here's a really nice one for example:
http://www.destructoid.com/arcade-crazy-build-your-own-vewlix-style-cabinet-129032.phtml

If you're willing to forego the removable sticks part of it and just make a standalone cab, building your own panel would be better than trying to make a good shelf/dock for removable sticks. Pretty much just drill holes in the panel vs trying to build around the removable sticks while trying to keep them secure.

And yeah wiring isn't really hardcore if you DIY the whole thing, particularly if you just use whatever easy screw terminal controller boards.
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this is exactly what I was looking for, thank you! If you find any other examples please let me know - I think for now I'll settle for playing on my tv on PS4/PC but sometime this year I really want to attempt something like this. fantastic, thank you.
 
DiGiKerot said:
If you are mainly looking for SFV, the smoothest experience on PC at the moment is probably to look for an old 360 or xBone stick, at least until such a time that the game supports DirectInput. Probably too many theoretical options to run through.
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I took this same advice and worked out great. Got a used (but looks and feels new) SFXT Fightstick Pro for the 360 for $40.

Def worth going used route at first. Especially for a first stick. $200+ is a lot to drop for something that may not be fully supported yet in SFV if that is your current flavor of fighting game.
 
DiGiKerot said:
1) The Venom stick. It uses a generic chassis shared by a bunch of other sticks in the market, but it's well made enough, certainly compared to other sticks in its price bracket. It uses unbranded parts - this is the kind of thing where your personal mileage will vary depending on how much experience you have with sticks with particular arcade parts, but, personally (as someone terrible at fighters), I thought the stick was OK, but the buttons were terrible, but that might not be a problem if you aren't used to something else. You'd need to source a female-female 5pin JLF cable, but otherwise it'll fit Sanwa or Seimitsu sticks without issue (not tried Hori, and I've heard of mixed results with Seimitsu buttons - Sanwas are fine), which makes it a good option if you have fairly specific preferences when it comes to parts. I gather this old PS3/360 Mayflash stick used the same chassis, though I've no idea how it registers under Windows.
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FYI, I hooked my Venom to my Windows 8 tablet last night and it installed as a "PS3/PS4 controller" (or joystick), but it registered as "PS3/PS4". Not sure if the PS3/PS4 toggle makes a difference, but when setting up FBA with it, it registered the joystick as the hat switch.

Not sure if SFV allows for full custom configuration, but if it does it should register everything no problem.
 
Maybe not the best pics, but I recently put the finishing touches on my TE2. Felt the need to try some stick customization for the first time after the stock plexi was moving around and scratched itself and the art up.

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Big shoutouts to Art's Hobbies for the Photoshop templates and for cutting the plexi/art/washer. Probably going to have to get some kind of shoulder pad for my makeshift chain shoulder strap though.
 
ngff02 said:
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Is there any sticks for PS4 that are similar to this lovely lil stick by Hori?
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I ordered the HORI Fighting Stick Mini 4.

The other options right now are out of my price range given the Canadian conversion. It's $49 in Canada and I think $39 in the US.

I've read some good reviews on this entry level stick and am looking forward to getting it and graduating to a big boy stick if I stick with SFV.
 
Ginger Hail said:
Maybe not the best pics, but I recently put the finishing touches on my TE2. Felt the need to try some stick customization for the first time after the stock plexi was moving around and scratched itself and the art up.




Big shoutouts to Art's Hobbies for the Photoshop templates and for cutting the plexi/art/washer. Probably going to have to get some kind of shoulder pad for my makeshift chain shoulder strap though.
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Clever dust cover
 
I bought a Madcatz TE2 (Chun-li) Fightstick 2 months ago and i'm not too happy with it:

The top side slightly bends outside, so it doesn't align properly when the top side is closed. (meaning that there is some space between the top side and the side panel) Everytime when i put some pressure on it, it moves down slightly and does a creaking sound. Its caused when it touches the side panel and its quite annoying. The only thing i can do is to demount the side panel.

Does anyone have the same problem with the TE2?

Considering the facts that this input device costs 250€, which was quite expensive for me, it makes me a bit unhappy! :'(
 
so you can't even open the alpha without breaking warranty because the 7th screw is behind the label.

guess this is going back to frys. unless anyone has advice on how to "unstick" a button without opening. basically if i hit the button in the top right hand corner it snags and won't go down unless you push hard. :(
 
Ilmyr said:
I bought a Madcatz TE2 (Chun-li) Fightstick 2 months ago and i'm not too happy with it:

The top side slightly bends outside, so it doesn't align properly when the top side is closed. (meaning that there is some space between the top side and the side panel) Everytime when i put some pressure on it, it moves down slightly and does a creaking sound. Its caused when it touches the side panel and its quite annoying. The only thing i can do is to demount the side panel.

Does anyone have the same problem with the TE2?

Considering the facts that this input device costs 250€, which was quite expensive for me, it makes me a bit unhappy! :'(
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Can you loosen the hinges on the inside to fix the issue or the creaking at least? Someone posted here that helped.
 
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