Super "NeoGAF Arcade Stick Thread" II TURBO
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notworksafe
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Depends what you want, really. There's no right answer.
Sanwa JLF the the default for most people. It's the loosest option but is what is used in many JP arcades. If you ever used a MadCatz stick, this is the default for that.
Seimitsu LS-32 is the default for VS City arcades and feels stiffer than the JLF
Seimitsu LS-40 has a very short throw and engage distance and is pretty stiff feeling
Crown 303A is the tightest stick and has a fast return to neutral but is a bit of a pain to install in most sticks as it requires special wiring
Hori Hayabusa is a nice stick with reduced throw/engage distance but remains a bit looser like a JLF
There are other options but those are the most common. If you have people you play with, it may be best to check out their sticks and see they feel to you.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Says it on the page.
Gotcha. Hmmm. Still tempting. Wonder how low it will get.
notworksafe
Member
Looks like some other sticks will be on sale too:
Before people laugh at the Razer, that may end up being a pretty good deal. Just replace the PCB with a Brook and you've got a solid stick. If those go for really cheap, it may be worth looking at.
Before people laugh at the Razer, that may end up being a pretty good deal. Just replace the PCB with a Brook and you've got a solid stick. If those go for really cheap, it may be worth looking at.
NoctisVsStar
Member
How low can it go?
i have a hori rap 4 with an octagonal restrictor gate
https://www.focusattack.com/kowal-hayabusa-octopus-octagonal-restrictor-plate/
the octopus,
then i bought another fightstick which came with a JLF joystick and i bought an octagonal restrictor gate, but is not like the octopus
and i can't insert the octopus in the JLF joystick, and i cannot find a similar gate that fits with the JLF joystick
am i not looking well? or does not exist a similar gate for the JLF joystick?
https://www.focusattack.com/kowal-hayabusa-octopus-octagonal-restrictor-plate/
the octopus,
then i bought another fightstick which came with a JLF joystick and i bought an octagonal restrictor gate, but is not like the octopus
and i can't insert the octopus in the JLF joystick, and i cannot find a similar gate that fits with the JLF joystick
am i not looking well? or does not exist a similar gate for the JLF joystick?
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Damn. Guess I will hold off. Should get my Drone delivered tomorrow...
notworksafe
Member
That would work perfectly!
I may be misunderstanding the question, but if you want an octagon gate for the JLF, you'll want this bad boy: https://www.focusattack.com/sanwa-gt-y-octagonal-restrictor-gate/
Z..
Member
Thanks man!
Wtf is it with arcade parts stores and stupid shipping costs? Why am I being charged 3x the price of the item for shipping?
I'm EU and constantly (and I do mean constantly) order stuff from the UK, Germany, Canada/US, Hing Kong and Japan and have never seen anything like this... 12£ shipping on a super small £3 part? Just... Why? Oo
Shadaloo seems to have the most forgiving prices for shipping so I guess I'll take it... Not like I have any other choice... *sigh*
i want an octagonal gate for the JLF, but one similar to the octagonal gate for the hayabusa joystick, it's called octopus
notworksafe
Member
Oh, nothing exists like that for JLF that I know of
Oh God, I didn't bother scrolling left.
katsubento
Member
Looks like some other sticks will be on sale too:
The Amazon description for the red Viewlix says Hayabusa buttons.
I really really really don't need another stick. Sets alarm.
sixteen-bit
Member
Yikes. How many did they have available?
20% off (a savings of $60) apparently
Rabid Dwarf 76
Member
They had three. They were gone in 45 seconds.
sixteen-bit
Member
lmao gg amazon
Does anyone know of any other American online retailer that sells Sanwa 30mm plungers on their own other than Focus Attack? They sent me the wrong color when I ordered some recently, and now the color that I had selected in the first place is sold out.
I'm looking for six light blue sanwa 30mm plungers.
I'm looking for six light blue sanwa 30mm plungers.
notworksafe
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DHF3NS6/?tag=neogaf0e-20
$80 for this stick isn't bad at all, swap out for a Brook PCB and you're set for under $200
$80 for this stick isn't bad at all, swap out for a Brook PCB and you're set for under $200
ShadowSoldier89
Member
and for those looking for just PS4/3/PC support the cheaper Brook board means you are looking at less than $150
sixteen-bit
Member
I wonder how fast the VLX Kuro will sell out
Arcadeshock is saying they'll have a deal on the Hayabusa at evo.
Hope it's not too tempting, because carrying a VLX back from vegas would suck...lol
Hellshingu
Member
Do it.
I was expecting more from the Amazon Prime deal on the VLX Kuro though. $240 is a pretty decent price for it but was expecting something a little more since they are probably trying to get rid of stock for the VLX Hayabusa.
Multi-console LED custom
Jesus, man! Beautiful work. How long does it take to get the wood to look like that?
NoctisVsStar
Member
Multi-console LED custom
Would you accept money for a custom job?
sixteen-bit
Member
That can't be the case as the VLX Hayabusa went on sale earlier today for the same price before selling out in 45 seconds.
Hellshingu
Member
Didn't know that I thought that they were up at the same time.
sixteen-bit
Member
Sanwa posted a making of video for the maple ball top.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuaFmNbRsew
Seems kinda labor intensive. I guess that's why they cost so much, lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuaFmNbRsew
Seems kinda labor intensive. I guess that's why they cost so much, lol.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Okay, so just got my Eightarc/Quanba Drone. Some quick impressions:
It's ridiculously light. Wow.
It's actually a *good* small size, not tiny like the Hori Mini or the Madcatz Alpha. Reminds me of the OG Madcatz Fighstick SE in that regard.
Slick looking. The slanted arm rest doubles as the USB storage as there is a small hollowed nook where the rest overhangs and where it meets the base. Overall, a good use of the real estate with a minimalist design. Oh, and slip grips on the bottom.
On to the important stuff: the stick feels awful. Flimsy, loose and mushy. Yuck. It's not even a better stick than the stock Hori's on the old DoA sticks for the 360, or the Dreamcast Green Goblin.
The buttons are at least serviceable. Nothing too terrible, but yeah, you'll want to replace them.
Now, I have yet to open it up, but to my disappointment, I just saw an Iplaywinner review that showed the stick is not 5-pin but wired in. So extra work for modding is needed. YMMV with that depending on experience. For me, I have never done that so it's a pain.
The buttons are normal QD's at least.
So that's it for now. Probably will put it through its paces with Balrog in SFV Training Mode.
It's ridiculously light. Wow.
It's actually a *good* small size, not tiny like the Hori Mini or the Madcatz Alpha. Reminds me of the OG Madcatz Fighstick SE in that regard.
Slick looking. The slanted arm rest doubles as the USB storage as there is a small hollowed nook where the rest overhangs and where it meets the base. Overall, a good use of the real estate with a minimalist design. Oh, and slip grips on the bottom.
On to the important stuff: the stick feels awful. Flimsy, loose and mushy. Yuck. It's not even a better stick than the stock Hori's on the old DoA sticks for the 360, or the Dreamcast Green Goblin.
The buttons are at least serviceable. Nothing too terrible, but yeah, you'll want to replace them.
Now, I have yet to open it up, but to my disappointment, I just saw an Iplaywinner review that showed the stick is not 5-pin but wired in. So extra work for modding is needed. YMMV with that depending on experience. For me, I have never done that so it's a pain.
The buttons are normal QD's at least.
So that's it for now. Probably will put it through its paces with Balrog in SFV Training Mode.
sixteen-bit
Member
Thanks for the impressions, bob_arctor
I wonder if the Carbon had the pin pin connector now. Considering it's based off the Q1, I would assume so, but after hearing about the Drone, I'm not so sure.
I wonder if the Carbon had the pin pin connector now. Considering it's based off the Q1, I would assume so, but after hearing about the Drone, I'm not so sure.
yea you can I have it mounted in my TE-S using that screw hole
Alright, thanks. I guess I'll just need to find some screws small enough.
How about with the Brook 360 to PS4 converter? Anyone have experience with those?
CountBlack
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notworksafe
Member
It will work with that, but the disconnecting issue is a problem with the PCB. If you want to 100% remove that problem you'll need to replace the PCB.
Are there disconnecting issues when using an old 360 TE1 Rd 2 with the Brook converter?
hikarutilmitt
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They work perfectly, I use one for my Elite controller when I'm playing Destiny and Overwatch.
That being said, what notworksafe said is true, the PCB inside the stick is the culprit for disconnecting, so replacing it would be best.
Aside from some sanding, I'm done all the main wood working parts of my Project Diva controller.
Soon I'll do the staining, and then after that clear coat, then button installation + soldering and I'm done! If everything goes well I should have it up and running by the weekend.
Soon I'll do the staining, and then after that clear coat, then button installation + soldering and I'm done! If everything goes well I should have it up and running by the weekend.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Okay so I went ahead and opened up the Drone. There are just six screws in the back so easy to do.
The shell is two halves and is attached inside by two connections which you can unattach to work on the shell half with buttons, which is what I did. The connections are like the 5-pin ones, so they come off easy.
The wiring is super cramped and so are the buttons! In fact, the triangle button rests super close to the PCB, so to get it out takes some finessing to get to the tab to push it in. Other than that, quick disconnects, standard stuff. I threw Sanwas in, fit no problem. I changed up the color scheme a bit, putting 2 yellow buttons on the inside for Square and X, and kept the rest black.
The stick is indeed harnessed in. And here is my question to Stick-GAF:
If it is a JLF clone, which it probably is, should I be able to put in a Sanwa 2-pound spring without issue? If I can do that to get much needed stiffness/tension, I can be satisfied and not have to swap out the whole stick altogether seeing as I never did the harness variety.
Edit: okay, so I can dash>Gigas pretty consistently on this stick but charge characters will be a problem without mote tension.
The shell is two halves and is attached inside by two connections which you can unattach to work on the shell half with buttons, which is what I did. The connections are like the 5-pin ones, so they come off easy.
The wiring is super cramped and so are the buttons! In fact, the triangle button rests super close to the PCB, so to get it out takes some finessing to get to the tab to push it in. Other than that, quick disconnects, standard stuff. I threw Sanwas in, fit no problem. I changed up the color scheme a bit, putting 2 yellow buttons on the inside for Square and X, and kept the rest black.
The stick is indeed harnessed in. And here is my question to Stick-GAF:
If it is a JLF clone, which it probably is, should I be able to put in a Sanwa 2-pound spring without issue? If I can do that to get much needed stiffness/tension, I can be satisfied and not have to swap out the whole stick altogether seeing as I never did the harness variety.
Edit: okay, so I can dash>Gigas pretty consistently on this stick but charge characters will be a problem without mote tension.
notworksafe
Member
No clue, tbh. If I had to guess, I'd say yes but I can't confirm either way.
@bob_arctor if it looks like JLF clone, the spring should be fine.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
Dope!! Should get the spring by Saturday. The Drone has potential to be a downlow gem of a stick, to be honest, especially for those willing to swap out the stick altogether.
sixteen-bit
Member
Here's a link to the IPW review that I think bob mentioned earlier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAhIqWl4aYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAhIqWl4aYg
Yeah, that should be no problem.