Super Smash Bros. for 3DS and Wii U Thread 5: Yarning for Yoshi

Wow...that Lucario vs. Jigglypuff discussion blew up, lol. I just want to say that I'm very aware of Jigglypuff's popularity. However, regardless of who is more popular between the two, Lucario has pretty much reached mascot status over the last few generations. He's a huge face of the Pokémon series now. Jigglypuff's still popular, yes, and she was pretty much a mascot of the series back in Generation I, too, but her relevancy has fallen a lot. She's only really somewhat back in the spotlight right now due to her new Fairy typing, but she's sharing that spotlight with a number of other Fairy-type Pokémon, too.

Jigglypuff may be more recognizable to the masses, but currently I really doubt she's more popular than Lucario among Pokémon fans. Of course, they're both deserving to be in Smash Bros. It's just that one is much more relevant than the other right now.
 
Actually, doesn't Zelda does Shiek's pose now (the Jojo pose)? I wonder if Shiek is now a separate character altogether and Phantom is her down B
 
Pic of the day. Zelda's Din's Fire is now stronger in its core. The farther it's projected, the bigger and more powerful it will be, but you need to hit foes with the core if you want to make them fall.

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Make them fall? As spike or knock back?
 
So no Jiggs today. Guess we're getting a character Friday. I'm still adamant that it's not Yoshi, though.

Lucario would probobly a more of a mascot for a lot of peeps considering he represents a person shift in pokemon in age and in interest. There are people playing Pokemon, epically young people, who don't know or care about the OG 150 so charizard has no reverence ( or as my younger cousin says a dumb chicken dragon ) they just like lucario , so him being a mascot is more than possible.

Next onto the bolded, what is an engineered fan favorite? If you mean giving a pokemans a movie that has happened plenty of times.

Sorry for the late reply, there is kind of a big difference between how Pikachu and Charizard are viewed as mascots and how Lucario is a mascot. Pokemon fans know who Lucario is. A much wider chunk of the population knows who Pikachu and Charizard are.

As for engineered fan-favorite, lots of Pokemon got their own movies. Lucario is special because he's a non-legendary who was the main featured Pokemon of his movie, one that he debuted in, no less. Lucario made its first public appearance in the spotlight, and a particularly large spotlight at that. It's a spotlight usually reserved for legendaries, previously established or not. In that sense, the same way that a show introduces new characters to garner interest in a spin-off, Lucario's fan-favorite status was engineered.

Not to say that it's a bad thing, but come on. His video game debut came out after Brawl's first trailer, even in Japan.
 
I think Din's fire will always have a rather limited use as long as Zelda's completely immobile while casting it and she falls into helpless state when using it in air, even if damage is buffed.
 
God damn, Pokemon ignorance shown again along with anti-Gen 1 hate some pages back. I really don't get why people who clearly don't follow the series talk about relevancy or a Pokemon being known.

Now I'm seeing "engineered" and Brawl coming out in 2006 apparently it matters that Brawl's trailer came out before Diamond Pearl.

Even if it debuted in a movie first, it really doesn't matter given the fact that people could have hated the Pokemon easily. See Zoroark's popularity as an example of it.
 
Do people get disappointed over the missed imaginary deadlines people in this thread have set? Really?

Anyway, if Jiggs doesn't return, I'm boycotting. Well, not really, but i'd be mad yo. He needs his green headband back though;
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So bad-ass.
 
Do people get disappointed over the missed imaginary deadlines people in this thread have set? Really?

Anyway, if Jiggs doesn't return, I'm boycotting. Well, not really, but i'd be mad yo. He needs his green headband back though;
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So bad-ass.

Yeah, same here. I always pick her green headband every time when I can.
 
I was curious about that.

Anyone know what it said in Japanese?

ゼルダが使うディンの炎は、中心部が強い攻撃になりました。長く飛ばすほど、威力も攻撃範囲も広くなるけど、撃墜を狙うならコアに当てること。
The word used in the beginning of the underlined sentence is げきつい(gekitsui) which to my knowledge is used to describe an aircraft being shot down. I'd probably translate the passage into something like 'Hit enemies with the core to take them down'.
 
ゼルダが使うディンの炎は、中心部が強い攻撃になりました。長く飛ばすほど、威力も攻撃範囲も広くなるけど、撃墜を狙うならコアに当てること。
The word used in the beginning of the underlined sentence is げきつい(gekitsui) which to my knowledge is used to describe an aircraft being shot down. I'd probably translate the passage into something like 'Hit enemies with the core to take them down'.

I would take that as small possibility that Din Fire's core could spike the characters if we did it right. However we don't know for now.
 
It seems to have gotten a bit bigger:
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The length of FD is the limit for Din's Fire in Brawl, so that is the biggest it can get in Brawl.
 
«Link's downward strike was designed to change to a Meteor Smash when the tip of the sword is aligned just right at the start. However, it will be removed if it's deemed too powerful overall after some multiplayer play tests. » 10.Dec.2013
I can't ever see it being too powerful. Link's been bottom-tier in two games and low-mid in another for a reason.

«The speed and power of Samus's Charge Shot has been drastically improved. However, that could potentially put her in danger on occasion. » 06.Nov.2013
Very good. Only other change I would like to the attack is being able to charge in midair, since that's how it's been in the games.

EDIT: LOL wrong thread.
 
You guys just need to stop getting hyped when a post is late time and again its not late due to a major update but due to Sakurai being late. It just makes it harder for me to find the actual image because I have 5ish pages of "its happening" and "can't wait for nothing" post to sift through
 
You guys just need to stop getting hyped when a post is late time and again its not late due to a major update but due to Sakurai being late. It just makes it harder for me to find the actual image because I have 5ish pages of "its happening" and "can't wait for nothing" post to sift through

There is a image in my OP that would automatically changed when Sakurai updated it but I should start to including the quotes in OP as well to make it easier for people to find it.

I still think people have right to hyping it up if they want to do that since it's a part of being fans. It may be annoying but part of SMASHHHH CYCLE.
 
There is a image in my OP that would automatically changed when Sakurai updated it but I should start to including the quotes in OP as well to make it easier for people to find it.

I still think people have right to hyping it up if they want to do that since it's a part of being fans. It may be annoying but part of SMASHHHH CYCLE.

It doesn't load correctly on my iphone 5 :(
 
You guys just need to stop getting hyped when a post is late time and again its not late due to a major update but due to Sakurai being late. It just makes it harder for me to find the actual image because I have 5ish pages of "its happening" and "can't wait for nothing" post to sift through
You're better off going directly to the Smash Bros site. That's what I do if I want to look at the daily image on my phone. Or even Miiverse if the new image won't load on the site.
I still think people have right to hyping it up if they want to do that since it's a part of being fans. It may be annoying but part of SMASHHHH CYCLE.
There's no justification for baseless hype and then whining about how it didn't meet up to the hype. And then doing this for months is just ridiculous.
 
You're better off going directly to the Smash Bros site. That's what I do if I want to look at the daily image on my phone. Or even Miiverse if the new image won't load on the site.

There's no justification for baseless hype and then whining about how it didn't meet up to the hype. And then doing this for months is just ridiculous.

I honestly remember the dojo more than I remember Brawl. I love smash, and I love these hype threads. The Miiverse is not better than this. Sorry to hear it's not for you.

Lawd, I lurked that dojo thread hard.
 
I honestly remember the dojo more than I remember Brawl. I love smash, and I love these hype threads. The Miiverse is not better than this. Sorry to hear it's not for you.

Lawd, I lurked that dojo thread hard.
Wait what? There is NO WAY I would say Miiverse is better than this thread or any thread in general. I only stated that to view the images.

I'm only talking about hyping up every pic (and then using it being late as another reason) and then whining about it later when it doesn't live up to hype that they set upon themselves.
 
Back in the Dojo day it was more fun to wake up, see the update, and see the reactions plastered all over GameFAQs. Probably because there is way less info on these miiverse posts but their isn't anywhere near the discussion that dojo updates had
 
He means "fall" literally. If you don't hit an enemy with the core of the flame, it's a flinch hit. They don't fall down. Hitting with the core causes the enemy to fall, much like what happens when you hit an enemy with a strong attack.
 
Do people get disappointed over the missed imaginary deadlines people in this thread have set? Really?

Anyway, if Jiggs doesn't return, I'm boycotting. Well, not really, but i'd be mad yo. He needs his green headband back though;
Alt-jigglypuff2.jpg

So bad-ass.

Green head band was always the best choice.

I'm conflicted on Jigglypuff's return. On one hand, she's been there since the start and it'd suck to not have her. On the other hand, she's certainly not as popular as people make her out to be and was one of the last characters added in Brawl.

I think this would look perfect as the Pokemon representatives, but I'm probably the only one who thinks this.

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+ Some sort of Pokemon Trainer.
 
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