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[georly]

Hey guys,

could someone tell me what differences there will be between both version? I know about graphics of course and different stages, but I'm asking about gameplay. Can we say both game will be identical gameplay-wise?

They should be. Stages, in theory, though, can affect gameplay. But they should both be 60fps (if 3ds is 60, wii u better be). All characters and moves should be the same, unless some balancing happens between 3ds release and wii U release (which is entirely possibly, given that they'll know which characters are doing the best/worst in for glory). I'd hope they'd patch the 3DS version, too.

Features will likely be different, due to hardware limitations. For example, maybe the Wii U one will let you save replays and upload to youtube, but the 3DS lets you upload screenshots to tumblr (both conjectures based on precedence with mario kart 8 and animal crossing new leaf).

 

[Akiller]

For the riforme mode

Spoiler

I had to to do it guys, ItalyGAf will understand

 

[IntelliHeath]

Hey guys,

could someone tell me what differences there will be between both version? I know about graphics of course and different stages, but I'm asking about gameplay. Can we say both game will be identical gameplay-wise?

From what I remembered;

3DS

• 60fps (with 3D on)
• AT/Pokeballs/etc will be in 30FPS
• The numbers of Assist Trophies and Pokeball Pokemon would be roughly same as amount in Wii U

I think we wouldn't know if they shared identical gameplay until Wii U got released because they could change anything during Wii U development.

 

[Platy]

Ornes sure were annoying in KIU.

Are you (or anyone) keeping an archive of these ?

 

[Tom_Cody]

From what I remembered;

3DS

• 60fps (with 3D on)
• AT/Pokeballs/etc will be in 30FPS
• The numbers of Assist Trophies and Pokeball Pokemon would be roughly same as amount in Wii U

I think we wouldn't know if they shared identical gameplay until Wii U got released because they could change anything during Wii U development.

This.

I'm kind of expecting that there will be a balance patch for the 3DS version once the Wii U version releases.

 

[Boss Doggie]

IMO Ike, Lucas, and Wolf are entirely expendable.

Roy → Ike → Luncina (or maybe Chrom). I will be crushed if we don't get a FE:A character, though it's possible that Lucina will only be in as a costume/skin for Marth.

Mother 3 came out 8 years ago and only in Japan. Ness is by far the more iconic character from that franchise, though I agree that he could likely remain secret.

Wolf I mention only because I hate that line of characters.

I will cut you!

 

[georly]

This.

I'm kind of expecting that there will be a balance patch for the 3DS version once the Wii U version releases.

I'm *REALLY* hoping that one of the reasons 3DS is out first is that it's a balance testing ground for the Wii U one. How sublime would that be? Obviously, it's not the only reason (HD assets, engine, features), but I hope it's one of them.

 

[Kyzon]

I have BW1 and 2

Bring them to me!

 

[Linkhero1]

I will cut you!

I'll sharpen the master sword.

If Lucas gets cut, I'll somewhat riot!

 

[Red Arremer]

For the riforme mode

Spoiler

I had to to do it guys, ItalyGAf will understand

I'm not ItalyGAF but I understand it regardless.

 

[DisconnectD]

Though I haven't encountered an Orne yet, the whole concept behind it being a touch of death enemy that you mostly flee from definitely makes me think it's a Smash Run enemy and I hope so because it will be Fae less annoying getting one shotted on that mode then losing a stock during a versus match on a stage because you couldn't dodge a ghost thing.

Also, it makes more sense for the 8-bit music change for when it approaches on a massive area like that of Smash Run. Seems it would be far more dynamic that way.

 

[SmithnCo]

I have no idea where this is from but the more I look at it the funnier it is to me.

I'd main Chef Ramsay. Imagine his "IT'S RAW" final smash.

 

[georly]

Though I haven't encountered an Orne yet, the whole concept behind it being a touch of death enemy that you mostly flee from definitely makes me think it's a Smash Run enemy and I hope so because it will be Fae less annoying getting one shotted on that mode then losing a stock during a versus match on a stage because you couldn't dodge a ghost thing.

Also, it makes more sense for the 8-bit music change for when it approaches on a massive area like that of Smash Run. Seems it would be far more dynamic that way.

Comparing it to the chimera + the background tell me it's just a stage hazard on the reset bomb stage. We already know that stage has enemies after the bomb drops.

 

[BGBW]

Do Americans actually know him as Chef Ramsey rather than Gordon?

 

[fredrancour]

Do Americans actually know him as Chef Ramsey rather than Gordon?

Nope. almost always hear Gordon Ramsey.

 

[SmithnCo]

Do Americans actually know him as Chef Ramsey rather than Gordon?

Hell's Kitchen usually calls him Chef Ramsay over here.

 

[DisconnectD]

Comparing it to the chimera + the background tell me it's just a stage hazard on the reset bomb stage. We already know that stage has enemies after the bomb drops.

According to others, the Orne appearing in the reset bomb forest is inconsistent though. I guess since it is a side scrolling stage it would make sense because you'd have room to run from it and like DaBoss said; the lower left corner of the potd is pink like the R.B.F

Was definitely hoping it would be a special smash run enemy. Man; would be such a wasted opportunity if that mode doesn't have bosses/mini bosses and other special mobs

In other news; I fucking need 40 days to pass before my eyes right NAO!!!!!

seriously ready to record/play/watch/breathe/eat Smash Bros. at Best Buy. I don't give a shit how long I have to wait. I am going to record hours of footage for you guys.

 

[georly]

According to others, the Orne appearing in the reset bomb forest is inconsistent though. I guess since it is a side scrolling stage it would make sense because you'd have room to run from it and like DaBoss said; the lower left corner of the potd is pink like the R.B.F

Was definitely hoping it would be a special smash run enemy. Man; would be such a wasted opportunity if that mode doesn't have bosses/mini bosses and other special mobs

It could be both, I suppose. No reason not to.

 

[DisconnectD]

Guys: what would be the best way to cull community requests on what youmguysnwant me to record footage of at best buy?

I want to compile a list so I can show you as much as possible so we can start the analysis machine to distract us from the long wait on both games. I have a busy summer ahead and will need an easy reference point so any suggestions would be helpful.

 

[georly]

Hey look, those things from the new smash brothers are in a game on 3ds. Neat

 

[DaBoss]

According to others, the Orne appearing in the reset bomb forest is inconsistent though. I guess since it is a side scrolling stage it would make sense because you'd have room to run from it and like DaBoss said; the lower left corner of the potd is pink like the R.B.F

Was definitely hoping it would be a special smash run enemy. Man; would be such a wasted opportunity if that mode doesn't have bosses/mini bosses and other special mobs

It isn't a scrolling stage.

It could be a Smash Run enemy looking at the bottom of this:

But I'm more inclined to think that it is a part of the stage.

An enemy not appearing in a certain area of a game most likely won't stop Sakurai. Yellow Devil is an example of this.

 

[georly]

It isn't a scrolling stage.

It isn't? It sure looks like it's scrolling in the direct.

An enemy not appearing in a certain area of a game most likely won't stop Sakurai. Yellow Devil is an example of this.

What do you mean? The yellow devil appears somewhere else besides megaman's stage?

 

[DisconnectD]

It isn't a scrolling stage.

It could be a Smash Run enemy looking at the bottom of this:

But I'm more inclined to think that it is a part of the stage.

An enemy not appearing in a certain area of a game most likely won't stop Sakurai. Yellow Devil is an example of this.

No, look at the direct or better yet , the gameXplain 3ds stage analysis. It is a very slow sidescrolling stage that scrolls to the left.

I hope you are right and it appears in Smash Run! Just seems more suited, since it is OHKO

 

[Boss Doggie]

So uh, have you guys send your condolences to Mario's English actor?

 

[SmithnCo]

So uh, have you guys send your condolences to Mario's English actor?

What?

 

[Linkhero1]

What?

I think he's talking about Bob Hoskins.

 

[georly]

So uh, have you guys send your condolences to Mario's English actor?

What?

Yeah. I hope you mean bob hoskins and not charles martinet. We can't lose 2 marios at once.

I made a miiverse post

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAABnUYnvlhLrqA

 

[SmithnCo]

I think he's talking about Bob Hoskins.

Makes it sound like something happened to Charles Martinet. God forbid.

 

[Boss Doggie]

That's why I specified English actor

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Hoskins had a handful of roles that make him more well known than just simply Mario.

 

[georly]

That's why I specified English actor

Charles Martinet is an English (voice) actor.

 

[Sciz]

He never even wanted to be remembered for Mario.

 

[Boss Doggie]

Charles Martinet is an English (voice) actor.

Technically he's American and his Mario voice is used in all languages but yeah

He never even wanted to be remembered for Mario.

I remember him more as Smee.

 

[georly]

Technically he's American and his Mario voice is used in all languages but yeah


I remember him more as Smee.

Ah, you meant country of origin, not language spoken

 

[DaBoss]

What do you mean? The yellow devil appears somewhere else besides megaman's stage?

Yellow Devil does not appear in Mega Man 2. Wily's Castle is from Mega Man 2.

It isn't? It sure looks like it's scrolling in the direct.

No, look at the direct or better yet , the gameXplain 3ds stage analysis. It is a very slow sidescrolling stage that scrolls to the left.

I'm saying the camera is only panning there to show the whole stage and giving the perception that it is a scrolling stage. There are platforms missing on the left and right side which should be there if it is a scrolling stage.

But then I look at these pictures and just become confused:

Why is a platform missing? The one below which is further left than that shows up so I don't think the platforms will disappear/appear when needed.

Maybe that platform can be destroyed.

I hope you are right and it appears in Smash Run! Just seems more suited, since it is OHKO

The Ultimate Chimera was also a OHKO stage hazard and only appeared as a stage hazard.

 

[georly]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=110236696&posted=1#post110236696

Oh man. All the more reason to add this to smash bros. Ad revenue off every single video uploaded.

 

[Caladrius]

The day Charles Martinet dies his soul will be infused into Mario himself.

 

[Qurupeke]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=110236696&posted=1#post110236696



Oh man. All the more reason to add this to smash bros. Ad revenue off every single video uploaded.

Yup, I'm pretty sure that they'll implement the video feature in Smash.

 

[theprodigy]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=110236696&posted=1#post110236696



Oh man. All the more reason to add this to smash bros. Ad revenue off every single video uploaded.

not really, any channel that gets a substantial number of viewers obviously has their own capture card and wouldn't fall under this
that being said, hopefully video sharing is in SSB4

 

[Berordn]

The day Charles Martinet dies his soul will be infused into Mario himself.

I wonder if they've just got a stock of unused Mario voice clips to unearth for that day.

 

[georly]

not really, any channel that gets a substantial number of viewers obviously has their own capture card and wouldn't fall under this
that being said, hopefully video sharing is in SSB4

For the most part, you are correct. Every now and then, some nobody is going to post a really sweet video of a glitch or of something really cool, and it'll get hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of hits. Nintendo will make ad revenue off all of those.

Edit: I mean, look at this - My friend posted videos of smash brawl before release in the US of all movesets (we had access to a japanese Wii) https://www.youtube.com/user/bwaggleburgers/videos and got hundreds of thousands of views. He doesn't make tons of videos, he was just one of the first (if not THE first) to post comprehensive movesets for all characters.

 

[R0ckman]

I wonder if they've just got a lot of stock of unused Mario voice clips to unearth for that day.

Mario and co's voices seems easy to pull off honestly. The role will be passable by others for sure.

 

[Deckard Cain]

So was it confirmed there is no wave dashing this time?

 

[Brainfreeze]

Your username actually fit you. Brainfreeze on the fact that it's 3DS screenshot.

Oof.

 

[theprodigy]

For the most part, you are correct. Every now and then, some nobody is going to post a really sweet video of a glitch or of something really cool, and it'll get hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of hits. Nintendo will make ad revenue off all of those.

there's no way a full video will be a hit like that, it has to be rather heavily edited which means it slips off the tag

 

[KHlover]

For the most part, you are correct. Every now and then, some nobody is going to post a really sweet video of a glitch or of something really cool, and it'll get hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of hits. Nintendo will make ad revenue off all of those.

Yeah, I've already seen quite a few channels with only a single video uploaded, which has a few hundred k - ~1,5Mil views

 

[Kriken]

For the most part, you are correct. Every now and then, some nobody is going to post a really sweet video of a glitch or of something really cool, and it'll get hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of hits. Nintendo will make ad revenue off all of those.

Those sweet, sweet pennies! Come to papa

 

[georly]

there's no way a full video will be a hit like that, it has to be rather heavily edited which means it slips off the tag

99% of the time, sure. There will still always be exceptions to the rule.

We also don't know if it'll let you upload everything. What if it lets you upload a practice session. You could easily pull off a glitch in a practice session and upload it.

You could upload some 2 minute 'For glory' match that is amazing.

Who knows what could happen. For the most part, yes, this won't make them that much money, but it does mean they'll make money if someone has some mystery viral hit on youtube.


Also: Isn't this building a database of content ID stuff so that it can try to match other videos too? Does it work like that? (Genuinely curious)

 

[Regulus Tera]

According to others, the Orne appearing in the reset bomb forest is inconsistent though.

That's a weak reasoning, if you ask me.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Do Americans actually know him as Chef Ramsey rather than Gordon?

I know him as Gordon Ramsey for long time.