ShockingAlberto
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He's under Chrom's knee
Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XI: Where 90% correct equals 100% wrong
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He's under Chrom's knee
Because I wrote that when I was ~13 or 14 years old. That's my old smash boards account that I never use anymore that I made that list on.
I was referring specifically to Fire Emblem, where Marth, Roy and Lucina are quite similar. Note that I did not mention Little Mac or Pac Man, who I feel are really great characters to include.
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This place needs more Wario gifs since the low quality one in the first post won't do him that much justice.
MrSaturn99
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We're arguing about Kellam now?
WeekendGAF has come early.
WeekendGAF has come early.
This raises an interesting point: What kinds of fighting styles have yet to be represented in Smash? I know Azure mentioned Takamaru could be the sheath/unsheathe style. I wonder what else they could still do.
ShockingAlberto
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Frederick represents the pair up mechanic by blocking for another character consistently, but then slowly becomes more and more of a burden.
Wait this would be a good AT.
Look, I ain't sayin the guy is right.
But I would have taken Nephenee over anyone.
Just sayin.
The idea of a Jeigan joke character is hilarious and you're making me want it.
But I would have taken Nephenee over anyone.
Just sayin.
The idea of a Jeigan joke character is hilarious and you're making me want it.
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I think you over estimate Falcon's popularity or importance with regards to the F-Zero series pre Smash Brothers. He was just a dude in a car, and if he were a fresh character now, he'd be much more likely to be considered non sensical.
ShockingAlberto
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They could do a lot to fix the fact that Marth, Roy, and Lucina are too similar.
Maybe by getting rid of one of them. I bet it's Marth.
Check under Chrom's knee.
BassForever
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Except Frederick isn't bad at all, and since Seth no Jeigan has been bad except, well, Jeigan in the FE1 remake. Having inf exp makes both Seth and Fredrick's early level lead a non issue in their games, and Titania has good stats and growths and is in games where cavaliers dominate and you can give them free exp between battles
peanutbutterlatte
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Kellam and Frederick aren't in though.
theprodigy
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Xpike
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no i'm pretty sure captain falcon is the main protagonist, he was even in those club nintendo comics.
There's nothing there...
ShockingAlberto
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I remember being super worried that teenage Sothe would be in Brawl.
Smash's first spear user is gonna waddle. It's time to accept that.
Dimitri LH
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so....what characters can we expect in the new demo? I can see Lucina since she is a...well...you know.....
C.Falcon seems like another safe bet. I want too see Peach though. I wonder why they dint have her at E3.
C.Falcon seems like another safe bet. I want too see Peach though. I wonder why they dint have her at E3.
kuroneko0509
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Nope, I don't overestimate anything. But if you were to make a crossover game, would you like to choose a main protag or just a side character that most of the time goes unnoticeable (Kellam) or the reincarnation of Jeigan-type character (Frederick)?
Staves, red-hair and gold bullion >
Nocturnowl
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Sothe being one of the few FE trophies in Brawl always seemed a bit odd to me, Micaiah even gets thrown in the backseat when it comes to trophies.
Fighting with deadly hair acrobatics, now if only there was some Nintendo character to fill this rather specific role.
Towards the end of the AT time limit being aerial has the effect of fast falling metal without the benefits of actually being metal as Fred drags you to your doom.
Dimitri LH
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Well theres the standard grappler....but that would be broken for obvious reasons. (or under powered?)
in before chain grabbing marth, King dedede and Ice climber fans <.<
July 14th; a trailer dropped 3 characters on us, blowing away the iron-clad certainty of the Gematsu leak, reintroducing a well-known and liked veteran and adding two new awesome additions from the cast that saw few coming.
For us, the day Sakurai's trailer graced our interwebs, was the hypest day of our smashgaf lives. But for Sakurai... it was a Monday
Quoting this again because I wanted to post this.
"Something wrong, SmashGAF? You come here prepared to see Shulk, and instead you found a clone?"
Finale Fireworker
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Geez. I mean, I'm glad I know, but lots of people read that. Sure this is an exercise in how you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet. But why haven't you withdrawn that after all these years? Your thirteen year old self is still lying to hundreds of readers who consume your false information in an attempt to learn more about something.
People go out of their way to learn information like this, you know? It's not like leaks where people believe things for fun or discussion or hype. Reading about game beta and development is pursuit of knowledge.
Long story short, you lied to me and I believed you and am bummed about it.
I always thought that if Ridley were a character, a cool feature would be the ability to grab and carry opponents, DK-style, by using his talons to air-lift them. Yes, he could then drop them over pits. It'd be balanced in some way, though, I.E. more escapable at higher damages, can only drop limited distance from stage, etc.
That, and a reversal of Little Mac's gimmick -- powerful in the air, but a huge target, and more vulnerable on the ground.
That, and a reversal of Little Mac's gimmick -- powerful in the air, but a huge target, and more vulnerable on the ground.
Considering Fire Emblem is of relatively low popularity and is already represented by prominent characters, I would move on to including reasonably popular characters which are different.
DK = Zangief
You know, looking back at all the newcomers, theres a surprising amount of creativity and new ideas represented.
Villager - non-fighter who attacks indirectly using household objects; unique pocketing and tree planting mechanics
Mega Man - projectiles as standard attacks; each attack is based on a Robot Master ability
Wii Fit Trainer - health and fitness attacks
Rosalina & Luma - cosmic witch who controls a puppet with her magic wand
Little Mac - boxer with unique K.O. meter mechanic
Greninja - deceptive water ninja
Mii Fighters - customizable characters with three fighting styles
Palutena - staff user
Pac-Man - retro 80s arcade throwback who changes shape during certain attacks
Robin - tactician with breakable tomes/swords; represents several Fire Emblem mechanics
Lucina - Marth clone
Im really happy with the roster so far.
Villager - non-fighter who attacks indirectly using household objects; unique pocketing and tree planting mechanics
Mega Man - projectiles as standard attacks; each attack is based on a Robot Master ability
Wii Fit Trainer - health and fitness attacks
Rosalina & Luma - cosmic witch who controls a puppet with her magic wand
Little Mac - boxer with unique K.O. meter mechanic
Greninja - deceptive water ninja
Mii Fighters - customizable characters with three fighting styles
Palutena - staff user
Pac-Man - retro 80s arcade throwback who changes shape during certain attacks
Robin - tactician with breakable tomes/swords; represents several Fire Emblem mechanics
Lucina - Marth clone
Im really happy with the roster so far.
ShockingAlberto
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Like Robin!
The issues you're going to keep running to with this argument are:
1) Robin is literally what you are asking for.
2) Lucina exists because they could easily base her on Marth. They didn't go "Oh, we need another Fire Emblem slot, let's use Lucina, it's okay because she's popular and I guess it doesn't matter that she plays like Marth. It's just something we have to live with." They went "Oh, we can't make a new character, but Lucina's like Marth, we can expand her out to a slot."
They're not using Lucina as a statement on diversifying fighting styles, they're using her as "Yay more slots"
Nocturnowl
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This makes me long for a Wario based more upon Land and World, a brawling, grappling beast with a leaping spinning piledriver among other things.
I hope the lack of Wario so far is because he's getting either a slight Yoshi or even Bowser style retooling.
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15 days or so depend on characters' reveals.
Wii Fit Trainer have a interesting mechanism where you would power up your attack but we don't know specifically yet. We know that it would work with solar ball.
I don't see the point in arguing FE characters. They are all weapon weilders at the end of the day (with the exception of the shape shifters). A sword, spear, or Axe is only so much different.
IMO the newcomers we've gotten so far are pretty diverse. Robin was the best choice, Lucina is extra fan service too.
IMO the newcomers we've gotten so far are pretty diverse. Robin was the best choice, Lucina is extra fan service too.
Except for the part where Robin uses magic and shit
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Magic is a weapon. Every Smash participant is a weapon-wielder.
OricWindstar
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Words can be a weapon. You're a weapon-wielded.
Which makes the criticism doubly absurd.
like are falcon and little mac basically the same thing because they punch things a lot
This is a pretty good post, I guess I should look at more Robin videos and see what the character is about.
On another note, I don't think anyone will convince me that trading the Pokémon Trainer for just Charizard, is a good move.
Yeah, way to miss the point, Jesus.
My argument is against those arguing about diversity among FE characters. There aren't that many characters that would've been better then Robin.
Dimitri LH
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Only resemblance is the lariat
A wario grappler style would feel more Wario Land ish.....but I would miss Wario Ware style if it did happen
ShockingAlberto
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I think it was a move born of technical limitations. There's probably a lot to consider with making two versions of the game on different hardware with different capabilities, some loading off disc and some not, some on carts, some on SD cards, etc. Brawl's method of transformations and switching not being repeatable is likely what did things like axing Squirtle and Ivysaur (assuming they have been axed) or separating Samus and Sheik out to new slots.
Shadow Hog
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Did you post an image here? I see the BBcode for an image, but didn't see one in your post... Actually, not seeing it in my previews, either. Weird!
Go nuts.
If Bowser really were like Kellam, Mario'd have his work cut out for him
You didn't notice him? That's okay. Nobody notices Kellam. It's kind of his schtick.
Spinosaurus
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Jigglypuff? Minus the huge target part
As much as I want a grappler and a Wario Land moveset, I don't want it to come at the expense of Brawl Wario. He's so fun and has a bizarre playstyle that no one else has.
totes magotes
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I wonder how Shulk and the Chorus Kids will fit on this list.
Honestly I wouldn't say Villager, WFT, Greninja, Pacman or Lucina were really unique characters, I think people greatly overestimate how "different" the newcomers movesets/playstyles generally are just because Rosalina has a stand, Mac has nerfed aerials and Megaman is a projectile character.
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