Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XI: Where 90% correct equals 100% wrong
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There are several other veterans not even announced yet, and for good reason. If Sakurai decided to reveal all of the veterans in that Nintendo Direct a couple months ago, we'd have even less to look forward to in regards to characters. I'd say to just be patient, and if it makes you feel better there are IC enemies featured in Smash Run. There's no reason for those things to be in that mode if they didn't have a proper character representative.
Professor Beef
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Reminds me of Brock Lesnar when he went for his viking look. Dorf Lesnar needs an F5 instead of a chokeslam.
MaverickHunterAsh
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Oh man, the Daybreak. Awesome. It looks like it's going to be as badass in this as it was in Kid Icarus: Uprising.
It'll probably be as one-sided as the Dragoon in 1v1 matches, but it should be a blast (literally) in FFAs! Funny how with updates like these, you can tell the "pro" Melee fanatics from everyone else just in their immediate reactions.
It'll probably be as one-sided as the Dragoon in 1v1 matches, but it should be a blast (literally) in FFAs! Funny how with updates like these, you can tell the "pro" Melee fanatics from everyone else just in their immediate reactions.
I'd guess not, and when parts from one are in play the other is prevented from spawning.
But if it's just the two of them, I guess it's possible for both to be up at the same time and the parts from each are shown on both sides of the player frames.
SliceSabre
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I'm not concern at all about the fact he hasn't announced all the characters yet. I think its silly for people to go full panic or worry just because they haven't announced a character yet.
Getting real tired of this shit.
Before I even knew about competitive play I always turned items off, and that was when they weren't designed to be complete bullshit - even my casual friends will ask to have smash balls and dragoon turned off when they play.
Dragoon was a stupid item, Day Break is going to be a stupid item.
Benzychenz
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Meta Knight suits being an unlockable. You've got Kirby as the hero, Dedede as the villain, and then Meta Knight is this odd in between. He just seems like a perfect unlockable to me.
He was just used for marketing in Brawl hence being a starter there.
With the release drawing near we've almost got the whole starting roster. 1-3 reveals suits the timing, unless there's a big blowout direct before the release showing off a bunch of vets.
I predict Wario, Ice Climbers and one of Ness/Lucas if they're still both in. If one is cut I can see the other being unlockable.
Though the starting roster feels odd. Having all four FE characters being starters for instance when Lucina fits being unlockable so well, and then there's Luigi.
He was just used for marketing in Brawl hence being a starter there.
With the release drawing near we've almost got the whole starting roster. 1-3 reveals suits the timing, unless there's a big blowout direct before the release showing off a bunch of vets.
I predict Wario, Ice Climbers and one of Ness/Lucas if they're still both in. If one is cut I can see the other being unlockable.
Though the starting roster feels odd. Having all four FE characters being starters for instance when Lucina fits being unlockable so well, and then there's Luigi.
Beren the Empty-Handed
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Pic of the day. Look at these three radiant pieces... Yup, you guessed it! It's another combinable item like the Dragoon-the Daybreak.
This is what it looks like when all three parts are combined together. How powerful will its beam blast be? FYI, you can fire shooting items while moving backward and forward. Change direction by flicking the Control Stick or Circle Pad toward the back of the fighter.
Cool.
I'll be sure to turn that off in multiplayer.
For this reason. Items like these over-centralize the fight. They make it all about them, and not actually about the match. I turn off stages that do the same thing.
Neoriceisgood
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More fun than Dragoon imo, I'd rather face a giant beam & be rewarded with a giant beam than a targetted auto-kill.
ryanofcall
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So if Ganon is back in Super smash Bros. for Wii U / Super smash Bros. for 3DS and he'd get that as an alt, would (super sayjan) Goku be kind of in...?
Day break will probably end up being like Zelda's final smash, a fullscreen horizontal auto kill.
Either that or just somewhat reduced knockback and you can shoot it a couple of times.
peanutbutterlatte
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I'd basically be okay with this game being "Kid Icarus: Uprising 2 featuring the Smash Bros."
MaverickHunterAsh
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Okay, I'll reword what I said: you can always tell the "pro" Melee players and the anti-item crowd at a glance by their unnaturally angry/kneejerk negative reactions to these kinds of updates. Better?
Anyway, you should probably specify that everything you're saying is subjective. It's your opinion. I only say that because you're claiming these things like they're facts.
Like I said: the Dragoon kinda sucks in 1v1, but it's a blast in FFA matches (IMO, of course). Sorry you don't feel the same way, but you not liking something doesn't make it stupid... I shouldn't have to explain this.
Ganondorf next week? Ganondorf next week.
http://projectmgame.com/en/news/dev-blogpost-1-recoveries
Apparently, recoveries are finally going to be nerfed in the next version of PM.
The thing that annoys me is you always put pro into quotation marks, comes across as you trying to dispute whether people who are good at the game actually are or not just because they don't want to introduce a load of bullshit factors.
Also since when the fuck do you need to specify something is subjective on a discussion forum? That goes without saying, you should specify when you're implying something is objective.
Apparently, recoveries are finally going to be nerfed in the next version of PM.
The thing that annoys me is you always put pro into quotation marks, comes across as you trying to dispute whether people who are good at the game actually are or not just because they don't want to introduce a load of bullshit factors.
Also since when the fuck do you need to specify something is subjective on a discussion forum? That goes without saying, you should specify when you're implying something is objective.
Neoriceisgood
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Could be, I liked daybreak in KIU though. More so than Dragoon in Brawl.
DICKS AHOY
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I have next to nothing on lately that should stop me from doing stuff and I've wanted to do some OT stuff for awhile now, so if you PM me what you wanted I could mock-up some stuff and if you like what you see we could go on from there.
It's much easier to dodge day break in KI:U than it's probably going to be in smash just because of the increased movement options you have in KI:U, being not 2D and all, it doesn't feel like bullshit like it probably will in smash.
HawthorneKitty
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They better just keep TP Ganondorf; it would suck not being able to scratch your nose.
peanutbutterlatte
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Are you even going to give this thing a chance?
Well I'm going to try it out once when the game release of course, but I think it's pretty obvious how it's going to work.
MaverickHunterAsh
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Well, if it makes you feel any better, I'm not setting out to annoy you or anyone else by doing that. Chalk it up to a difference of opinion between us: I do that precisely because you can't call people who are only the best under specific conditions and rulesets and only on a handful of stages out-and-out pros. They're pros, sure; when they have the game specifically tailored to them. Ergo, they aren't really pros in every sense of the word, but the narrative is often presented to seem like they are.
Your posts often come off to me like you're stating everything you think is objective fact. It can be hard to tell on the Internet, though, so if you're not doing that, my mistake! You seem to be getting awfully angry, though, and it really isn't worth it. Let's just agree to disagree on the above and acknowledge that we're just not going to change each other's minds on this. I reiterate what I said, though: I have never set out to try and annoy you or anyone!
Real men
use items.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Why not both?
What do you think this is? Taco day?
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
Wii Fit Trainer since the day she was revealed. Such an odd character that I can't help but love. I also want to have a good Pac-Man, Palutena, and of course Pit. I'll still use Captain Falcon, but I had hoped he'd have at least one new special move from Brawl. I guess I'll be trying out all his custom moves.
Neoriceisgood
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Interesting side note: but is this the first brand new item we've seen since the smash direct?
A pro player melee player will be able to beat a casual melee player with items on 99% of the time if there are actual stakes on the line to stop them sandbagging/not playing to win.
And a pro brawl player will do the same to a casual brawl player.
There isn't some massive change that items introduce that we're somehow not able to deal with and we end up shitting ourselves, there isn't some massive amount of depth to items that we haven't discovered but casuals have just because we don't use them, we remove them because we don't want competitive smash to be influenced by random factors.
Wasn't the boomerang shown post-direct?
E: Actually, no, I think you may be right.
SaintMadeOfPlaster
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So much Dragoon hate 
OrangeGrayBlue
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The competitive vs casual talk is ingratiating. There is no ground to be gained on either side. It's like the world war I of gaming forum debates.
Neoriceisgood
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We had a huge set of item images released together with the direct, I don't think we've had a single non-assist item discussed/shown that wasn't also in those screenshots until today.
Benzychenz
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I change mains all the time. I played a lot of Toon Link, Lucario and Wolf in Brawl, and atm I'm playing Melee and find myself gravitating to Marth and a bit of Captain Falcon.
Greninja looks great, and I'll definitely try and play as Shulk seeing as Xenoblade is the #1 Wii game.
But if I had to say, Lucina looks like a good candidate, a more newbie friendly Marth which suits me cause I suck.
The real reason is the boots.
At least in 2008 people talked about low-level mechanics. Now it's mostly about the item switch. Pretty boring.
I'm just going to limit myself to playing 1 character per week in the online mode and training until I'm relatively proficient with each character, or atleast have an idea about what they provide to a matchup and then after that start to specialise in my favourite 3 characters.
E: Actually that would probably take a year, maybe just swap out characters every day.
E: Actually that would probably take a year, maybe just swap out characters every day.
There's no way I don't play as all of the starters within the first day.
Speedwagon
Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel. Yabuki turned off voice chat in Mario Kart races. True artists of their time.
I suppose you have a strong hate for any standard card game as well? If both players are playing by the same rules then the game can still be fun.
Pic of the day. Look at these three radiant pieces... Yup, you guessed it! It's another combinable item like the Dragoon-the Daybreak.
This is what it looks like when all three parts are combined together. How powerful will its beam blast be? FYI, you can fire shooting items while moving backward and forward. Change direction by flicking the Control Stick or Circle Pad toward the back of the fighter.
That looks awesome. I'm in. And what's that Ganondorf? Looks awesome. Must have been from the HW Direct?
PontyfaxJr
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Captain Falcon, DK, Zelda, in order of frequency.
Same as in Melee, same as in Brawl.
I do want to try out Little Mac and Greninja as well as all the newcomers so that might change yet. Impossible to say though.
Nobody will replace Cap, even if he's somehow even worse than he was in Brawl.
I'll mess around with them a little bit as I unlock characters.
But I'm going to be playing 6-8 hours a day so I want to try and force myself to get as good as I can with each character as quick as possible before I start trying to take my mains to another level, want to try and get the jump on my local tournaments.
Benzychenz
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Ohh I forgot ZSS. I play as her a lot too. Can't resist that life and hometown.
DICKS AHOY
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They'd have to intentionally go out of their way to do that I swear. The Falcon twins were aaaaaaaawful in Brawl.
Masked Man
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There are so many cool characters that it's hard to choose! I'll be picking Peach and Pit back up for sure. As for newcomers, Little Mac is my absolute number one. <3 Other than that, I definitely see myself playing a lot of Greninja, Robin, and Palutena!
JediLink
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If you want take this argument to its logical conclusion, then you can't really be considered a pro at Melee unless you also hold world records in Home-Run Contest. Nah, mate. If you play the game professionally, you're a pro. That's just how it is. Sorry if that bothers you.
Samus (my classic), Lucina, ZSS, Dedede I think right now. If Lucina turns our really fun / good, she'll usurp Samus on my list.
Going to try out like, everyone though.
If ROB indeed comes back then I'll end up with Lucina, ROB, Samus or something.
Too many characters I want to play, honestly, and I'm notorious for my character crisis play style in FGs as-is lol.
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